betty boop Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Doesnt look like JVC has sat on their hands... with releasing two of "worlds smallest" in the new DLA-NZ700 and DLA-NZ500 laser native 4k Projectors 35% smaller than Nz7 model up and looks like they have redesigned everything ! check out here in the news release pdf uploaded on home cinema france... https://www.homecinema-fr.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/HCFR-JVC-DLA-NZ500_700-news-release.pdf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 (edited) Size difference .... us pricing DLA-NZ700/RS2200 Black $8,999.95 USD DLA-NZ500/RS1200 Black $5,999.95 USD Edited September 3 by betty boop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) These are interesting, seems to be mainly about reducing costs IMO (not a bad thing). https://www.jvc.com/usa/compare/?langageId=4&com=49681&com=49815 Non-headline differences (that I think are significant) (comparing NZ800 vs NZ700) Not all glass lens. Probably why it needs to be bigger to be good enough for 4K. I still suspect no where near as sharp as NZ800. Reduced throw ratio Reduced HDMI bandwidth (so no 4k120p for gamers) No 3D support Fan noise not specified! Rear exhaust ( a good thing IMO, noise more likely to be sent out the back). No clear motion drive/motion enhance (personally I don't care) Still a good choice for contrast and lower price if this fits your usage. Edited September 3 by Craigus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 Just now, Craigus said: These are interesting, seems to be mainly about reducing costs IMO (not a bad thing). Yes it’s a good thing, still not cheap exactly looking at us pricing but yeah cheaper than the flagship 800 and 900 Ps no 3D no 12v trigger for those that run drop down screens contrast not quite upto more expensive models probably also down to plastic lenses. Even Epson on its 9400 uses an all glass Fuji lens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 minutes ago, betty boop said: no 12v trigger for those that run drop down screens Ah, I didn't think that significant, but I don't use a drop down screen. (My bad!) Personally my next upgrade is the NZ800. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, Craigus said: Not all glass lens. Probably why it needs to be bigger to be good enough for 4K. I still suspect no where near as sharp as NZ800. a clarification from overseas the lens is all glass.. which is good. and so should be for money Edited September 4 by betty boop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 57 minutes ago, betty boop said: a clarification from overseas the lens is all glass.. which is good. and so should be for money that’s good to hear. Their own specs omitted that so you’d think it would be safe to assume it wasn’t all glass. It does have less elements/groups so unless they’ve achieved some optical magic (or the extra elements are for greater throw options) the optics I don’t think would be at the same level as the higher grades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 7 minutes ago, Craigus said: It does have less elements/groups so unless they’ve achieved some optical magic (or the extra elements are for greater throw options) the optics I don’t think would be at the same level as the higher grades. JVC 17-element, 15-group all-glass 65mm diameter high-quality lens in the NZ7/NZ800 15-element, 11-groups, 80mm diameter 4k compatible lens NZ500/700. vs sony... Sony 10-element, unknown group, 54mm optical resin exit element XW5000 13-element, unknown group, 70mm optical resin exit element ACF lens XW6000/7000. 14-element, unknown group, 83mm optical resin exit element 4k lens VW500ES -> VW790ES 10 minutes ago, Craigus said: that’s good to hear. Their own specs omitted that so you’d think it would be safe to assume it wasn’t all glass. apparently in marketing material 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j19801110 Posted Monday at 06:36 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:36 AM For those that are interested, review is just out. Enjoy! https://simplehomecinema.com/2024/09/30/jvc-nz700-review-jvcs-compact-native-4k-powerhouse-projector/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted Monday at 07:09 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 07:09 AM (edited) 35 minutes ago, j19801110 said: For those that are interested, review is just out. Enjoy! https://simplehomecinema.com/2024/09/30/jvc-nz700-review-jvcs-compact-native-4k-powerhouse-projector/ How do we give you the best projector review I’ve ever read award well done very comprehensive and especially given a preproduction unit. Congrats to jvc for not sitting on its laurels and continuing to bring out better and better units ! jvc’s future is bright ! now if only it did 3D and wasn’t missing the processing of the 800… as sharp as 800, did 1080p as well as 800 … but then it would be an 800 there will be many many folk am sure very happy with 500 and 700 while 800 let alone 900 are out of reach ! Edited Monday at 07:11 AM by betty boop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j19801110 Posted Monday at 07:44 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:44 AM 32 minutes ago, betty boop said: How do we give you the best projector review I’ve ever read award well done very comprehensive and especially given a preproduction unit. Congrats to jvc for not sitting on its laurels and continuing to bring out better and better units ! jvc’s future is bright ! now if only it did 3D and wasn’t missing the processing of the 800… as sharp as 800, did 1080p as well as 800 … but then it would be an 800 there will be many many folk am sure very happy with 500 and 700 while 800 let alone 900 are out of reach ! Thank you, Al. Too kind. Yes, this is no NZ800, but it's a cracking little unit. I think people will really love it. In fact, I would gladly keep it if I was allowed. The contrast is pretty phenomenal on it - no ifs or buts. Yes, my NZ800 produces a better picture overall, but for almost double the price it should too or I'd crack it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted Monday at 08:01 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 08:01 AM 16 minutes ago, j19801110 said: Yes, this is no NZ800, but it's a cracking little unit. I think people will really love it. In fact, I would gladly keep it if I was allowed. The contrast is pretty phenomenal on it - no ifs or buts. Yes, my NZ800 produces a better picture overall, but for almost double the price it should too or I'd crack it! nz700 definitely seems the ace in the pack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j19801110 Posted Monday at 09:13 AM Share Posted Monday at 09:13 AM 1 hour ago, betty boop said: nz700 definitely seems the ace in the pack Well, I think it's possible that the NZ500 is going to be just as good at a much lower price. If it can reach just as high ANSI but maybe just a hair lower on/off at 26,000:1, it would still compete well at 1% ADL, so would look amazing. We'll see. Maybe JVC can send us that unit as well.... maybe not. These reviews are a lot of work so I would only do the contrast measurements for that one I recon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Posted Monday at 11:38 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:38 AM The 1st generation 4k projectors were fat pigs. That size is less obtrusive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP1 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) On 4/9/2024 at 11:35 AM, betty boop said: a clarification from overseas the lens is all glass.. which is good. and so should be for money JVC do not specify what lens elements are used for these PJ's but they do for ones with glass elements. In most reports it is confirmed that a plastic (resin) element is used. Putting aside the hype about glass vs resin optical elements, the proof is in how good the picture looks. This publication is one of many reporting information provided to them by JVC about the materials used in the lens elements. https://audio-freak.de/marken-empfehlungen/vergleich-jvc-projektoren/ Edited 9 hours ago by TP1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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