Andythiing Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 Waste of money or possible useful diffuser on first reflections ? Any advice welcomed.
rocky500 Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 (edited) I want to buy something like this for my Kitchen. There is some cracks around the door frame, that when ever I patch them, they come back pretty quickly. Cracked through the brickwork. Also the family drops around for dinner regularly and the noise when we all start talking is a bit wild. Hoping to put some of this acoustic paneling on the one wall and tame the noise when a few people are in the kitchen to make it more audible. I was just looking at these ones https://www.bunnings.com.au/prempanel-2700-x-600-x-21mm-oak-timber-acoustic-panel_p0455959 Edited July 12, 2024 by rocky500 2
Andythiing Posted July 12, 2024 Author Posted July 12, 2024 55 minutes ago, rocky500 said: I want to buy something like this for my Kitchen. There is some cracks around the door frame, that when ever I patch them, they come back pretty quickly. Cracked through the brickwork. Also the family drops around for dinner regularly and the noise when we all start talking is a bit wild. Hoping to put some of this acoustic paneling on the one wall and tame the noise when a few people are in the kitchen to make it more audible. I was just looking at these ones https://www.bunnings.com.au/prempanel-2700-x-600-x-21mm-oak-timber-acoustic-panel_p0455959 Same product I think
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted July 12, 2024 Volunteer Posted July 12, 2024 Gets some pretty poor customer reviews 1
Andythiing Posted July 12, 2024 Author Posted July 12, 2024 2 hours ago, sir sanders zingmore said: Gets some pretty poor customer reviews Yes I noted that - poor manufacturing with limited staples holding them together - appears to be an issue when cutting boards in particular- Bunnings response is they have had the issue addressed - I think I’ll have to at least check that’s been done - but at least with these ones being smaller squares I wouldn’t cut them - probably just place 2 together strategically?
JkSpinner Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 I am considering using this, or other brands of similar products on the back wall, or the rear side wall, but also in other areas of the house. Since I have been going down the acoustic panel path, I have noticed how terrible the acoustics are in other areas of our house, especially the hall way and rear tiled family/meals/kitchen. I have noticed how we all yell at each other, how you cannot hear one one another when the dishwasher is on, doing the dishes, the jug etc, or when my wife and her girlfriends have a loud laugh, you can even get that piercing uncomfortable noise. we had them installed at work in the foyer, and they made a huge difference. 2
almikel Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 why not just build yourself a 1D Binary Amplitude Diffuser (BAD) panel - ie slats over absorption in a 1D pattern? A BAD panel provides absorption and some diffusion. You can use a sequence of coin tosses to generate the pattern - head=slat, tails=gap. Mike 1
Steever Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) Friends of ours use these exact panels in their living space but it's not heavy use but, rather, more just accents in a couple of spots. It stood out as we were having a similar product put along the whole wall in our living/listening space. What I noticed though, was the hardness of the backing felt. It's really firm. And the edges of the batons are very sharp where the veneer on the outer-most surface finishes. It's effect on room acoustics remains unknown but I would hope that even with the firm backing, it may have some positive effect. Ours (from a company called Woodflex) uses a very soft felt and all three surfaces of each baton are veneered over rounded edges. It's a much nicer product but it's about double the price per panel. Before and after walking into the room is like night and day. It is much much better now. It's like what you get walking into a well treated listening room at a specialist hifi dealer. We get so much more detail out of music and require less volume to do it. We can also speak quieter without losing intelligibility and this has been a big gain for listening to movies. Edited August 2, 2024 by Steever 5
THOMO Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 My Bunnings had two of these panels at half price so I bought them and will do some experimenting and try to work out the best mounting method.Which is not so easy with textured plastered brick walls.My initial thought is that they probably should have a rigid backing like 4mm ply.The battens are just stapled on through the felt. The other annoying thing is that at 2700mm they are about 100mm shorter than my ceiling height in the room in which I was wanting to use them.So to look decent I probably need to install 120 mm by say 32mm skirting board with a rebate into which the panels will sit. The battens are also just raw sawn MDF on the edges and a bit concerned about having that much raw MDF in my living space because it does have urea formaldehyde glue in it which is not the healthiest of substances. 2
Andythiing Posted August 3, 2024 Author Posted August 3, 2024 2 hours ago, THOMO said: My Bunnings had two of these panels at half price so I bought them and will do some experimenting and try to work out the best mounting method.Which is not so easy with textured plastered brick walls.My initial thought is that they probably should have a rigid backing like 4mm ply.The battens are just stapled on through the felt. The other annoying thing is that at 2700mm they are about 100mm shorter than my ceiling height in the room in which I was wanting to use them.So to look decent I probably need to install 120 mm by say 32mm skirting board with a rebate into which the panels will sit. The battens are also just raw sawn MDF on the edges and a bit concerned about having that much raw MDF in my living space because it does have urea formaldehyde glue in it which is not the healthiest of substances. If you can work out the LD50 on the product we’d all appreciate it 1
THOMO Posted August 3, 2024 Posted August 3, 2024 20 minutes ago, Andythiing said: If you can work out the LD50 on the product we’d all appreciate it It seems that cured MDF has a very low toxicity level but when it is freshly cut it is much higher.If these are plastic wrapped soon after production those levels in the wrapping could be high.Might be safest to remove the wrapping using a mask and leave them outside for a week or so. 1
crisis Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 (edited) https://www.bunnings.com.au/prempanel-2700-x-600-x-21mm-oak-timber-acoustic-panel_p0455959 Are these the same things? I'm procrastinating over what to do with my room. I was going with absorption but I hear that refraction may be preferable next to the speakers. Update. read the reviews... Not good! Edited August 8, 2024 by crisis
rocky500 Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 7 minutes ago, crisis said: Update. read the reviews... Not good! Yes that has put me off those ones. Saw these on FBMP (locally to me) and might think about these ones. Slightly longer. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/465182886313557 1
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