Time to dip my toe into room treatment.

[sloper]

Hello time to dip my toes into room treatment.

My System consists of PC into a Topping D50 DAC into either a restored Sansui AU505 or Au717 amplifier.

Speakers are Baily TML restored by a fellow member. (Love them)

 

l do have some contsraints, l have  a family member in a wheel chair, so no mat, speakers cant move out.

Roof has a hoist and the bean bag the dog can be seen on is used by her.

 

The rug on the back wall helped a lot as l did notice reflections.

4m to listening position on the lounge.

Vinyl floor.

 

l dont notice any bad things but????

 

Now one thing l can do, a sons good mate does sound measurements for a living so l could get him in and do a sweep of the room and see whats going on.

 

What should l start on/look for?

And it has to look good for the wife.

 

Plan is to place my Sansui AU70 in there without burning the house down.

 

regards Bruce

 

 

 

 

 

[RankStranger]

No personal experience but John Darko has a few videos on his YouTube channel to do with room treatments. He has done it with two very different listening spaces and maybe an office, too, and documented the whole thing pretty extensively. 
 

Probably a search for "Darko audio room treatment" would be a good place to start.

 

good luck  

[BugPowderDust]

All I’ll add right now is don’t guess.
 

It will cost far more in the longer term as you figure out you got the wrong stuff.

Have a chat to someone like Cristian corsini who can help you measure your room and then recommend not only acoustic treatments, but also positioning of speakers etc for the best result.

[tripitaka]

My advice is just do the sweep. After all, it costs nothing and, like the rest of us, you will be heartbroken to see what your speakers and the room have done to the signal in terms of frequency response (as a start). 

 

Teasing out what is being caused by your speakers and what is caused by the room is harder, but you can get a good idea by doing a sweep right in front of the speaker - importantly, EQ (not treatment) is the right fix for distortion caused by the speakers.

 

Good luck.

[Kaynin]

Another vote for do the sweep first.  I did that for my HT room and I had definitive answers to positioning 2x subbies, as well as attenuating problematic frequencies within the room.  I got the sweep results and then purchased and installed room treatments.  It was the only way I could be 100% certain I was getting the best result.

[Keith_W]

Room treatment can have a dramatic effect on the sound, and it isn't always good. Your room sounds like it has a lot of limitations, e.g. can't move the speakers, can't place anything on the roof, and there are already a lot of pictures hanging on the walls, and it is rather small. Get your son's mate to do a sweep and post the results here. In particular: smoothed frequency response (1/12 octave), spectrogram, waterfall, energy-time curve zoomed in to the first  100ms, and the T30. 

[sloper]

Will do, yes its a pain with moving stuff around.

 

Not saying anything but the scrapes in the hallway drive me nuts.

 

regards Bruce

[Bass13]

On 23/04/2024 at 11:00 AM, Keith_W said:

Get your son's mate to do a sweep and post the results here. In particular: smoothed frequency response (1/12 octave), spectrogram, waterfall, energy-time curve zoomed in to the first  100ms, and the T30. 

 

I need this done myself, very curious to what the analysis shows..

[playdough]

On 21/04/2024 at 11:37 AM, sloper said:

Hello time to dip my toes into room treatment.

My System consists of PC into a Topping D50 DAC into either a restored Sansui AU505 or Au717 amplifier.

Speakers are Baily TML restored by a fellow member. (Love them)

 

l do have some contsraints, l have  a family member in a wheel chair, so no mat, speakers cant move out.

Roof has a hoist and the bean bag the dog can be seen on is used by her.

 

The rug on the back wall helped a lot as l did notice reflections.

4m to listening position on the lounge.

Vinyl floor.

 

l dont notice any bad things but????

 

Now one thing l can do, a sons good mate does sound measurements for a living so l could get him in and do a sweep of the room and see whats going on.

 

What should l start on/look for?

And it has to look good for the wife.

 

Plan is to place my Sansui AU70 in there without burning the house down.

 

regards Bruce

 

 

 

 

 

Room and soundstage look ok (positioning the rig in relation to room constraints) is the left speaker in a corner or open to a wall ?

. Light construction and plaster walls, bass would be ok. Heavy furniture, carpet all contribute to a better room response.  Walls look ok, heavy drapes, windows,  Ceiling could be treated although just by looking and imagining sitting in the couch, having a listen would be far better than a more empty, hard floored, minimised furniture "look".

Pile of blankets in corners  yea, I actually do it and measured improvement, anything goes , Experimentation with things already in the house is fun, costs no money.

Measurements will reinforce what your ears tell you

Enjoy. 

 

 

[almikel]

I would recommend @Paul Spencer 

Paul is based close to Melbourne - I've had lots of dealings with Paul across >10 years - he has great skills and I trust him.

 

cheers

Mike