dbastin Posted February 12 Posted February 12 On 11/01/2024 at 7:35 PM, Assisi said: I received just one cable a few days ago to connect one Nordost Qnet to a Weiss 101 LPS Is that DC cable? Which one? Does the Weiss isolate its outputs from one another? 12 hours ago, TerryO said: Grun plug As an aside, this the tip of the iceberg. Synergistic Research has had plugs like this for a long time, although just one lead rather then 2 or 3. Next level up is star ground like Puritan and (Nordost?) for which I use a Synergistic Research passive ground block at one part of my network, and next level up is 'conditioning' the ground like the Synergistic Research Active Ground Blocks (I have SE for the main part of my system) and others have got products that do this too like Shunyata. Of course, there are also different ground cables that have different impacts and while a simple copper wire will do OK, ground cables too can be better. 4 hours ago, TerryO said: That was way to much of a good thing and didn’t sound good. It would be interesting to know what it sounds like when you think it is too much. 4 hours ago, TerryO said: Yes I’m saying Streaming can be with the good filtration way better than playing stored music. Does it depend how that is stored (NAS, HDD, SSD, external v internal?). I imagine NAS could be much the same as streamed if the NAS is connected to the network at the most upstream point. If the storage is internal to a server, the 'disk' could be detrimental.
Silent Screamer Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, frednork said: I think value has to be viewed within the context of the system you are applying it to. I havent seen people suggesting that 10k of network gear would benefit someone with an entry level system. I have seen many posts saying 10k of network gear is nothing but jewellery and has no audible benefit. All points of view are well represented. There are always value options, as, if you want to listen to music, you dont need to spend a lot. However if you want to approach a very high level of reproduction it will cost more. If you want high end wine, cars, houses, or hookers. You will need to pay more. Access to funds does tend to dictate how far one can go with these sorts of things in life. Hifi is no different. We are not talking access to food and water here. It is a luxury item. Ironically just yesterday you would have been reminded that the person below viewed some of your own purchasing choices similarly ie with a high level of doubt as to the value given. I have the same reclocker so I am just as silly as you from his perspective. Nonetheless his comments are fair enough and I can understand his view, as are your comments above, from your perspective. and so on it goes. What you are forgetting is that said person is a tight ass, and is looking for the best value gear he can buy. Buying cheap has bitten me more than once. But on the flip side of that I have over spent on other stuff. Also a big factor these days is married versus not married... 10 years ago when we were dating I would think nothing of spending $10k on gear, today I feel guilty if I spend $10 since I haven't worked for years. The constant thought that goes through my mind is I have spent so much now, where do you stop? I don't listen to enough music to justify what I have already spent, how do you justify spending more? But is there some kind of magic bullet that takes it to another level for relatively little money? It is a constant internal fight. 1
Assisi Posted February 12 Posted February 12 32 minutes ago, dbastin said: Is that DC cable? Which one? Does the Weiss isolate its outputs from one another? It is a DC cable. The matter of Plugs on power cables for the Qnet became complicated. I did no want to buy another LPS and I wanted to use the Weiss. The Weiss LPS only has enough output to power one Qnet. I have two. Whether the Weiss Isolates outlets or not I do not know. At the moment I am only using one outlet. Nordost use a Lemo plug whilst Weiss use a Fischer. They look very very similar. There are some subtle differences. A Lemo will not go into the Weiss socket whereas the Fischer will go into both devices. A Lemo plug was very difficult to source. As a special Weiss made up a cable with Fischer on both ends. I hope that this makes sense. It did my head in for a while. The second Qnet is powered by the power supply that it came with. With the Qnet you can purchase a special stand for it stand on. To save money as an interim, I made up stands using sparkling wine corks metal tops, bearing balls and wood that I think do provide benefits. The Qnets float. Maybe the Nordost stand is better? Which ever way you look at it the Qnet is superb. I still have to make up my mind as to whether one is enough or two is better. Work in progress. The Qnets have made my Paul Pang Quad , SOtM and Melco superflous for me. They are powered but not connected. John
Godot Posted February 12 Posted February 12 31 minutes ago, Silent Screamer said: But is there some kind of magic bullet that takes it to another level for relatively little money? I think not. Usually it is a very small incremental level change for a whole lot of money. Often, not actually “better” but rather different from what you are used to. There is lot of great sound available at extraordinary value in this age of plenty. Despite saying this, I have spent more than I ever imagined possible to not that many years ago. I consider myself very fortunate to have been able to do so. I am also grateful to Mrs Godot’s continued tolerance. When a new component enters Casa Godot she always asks “what does that do” and I always reply “makes it better”. At which point she rolls her eyes and we continue as normal. 4
frednork Posted February 12 Posted February 12 25 minutes ago, Silent Screamer said: What you are forgetting is that said person is a tight ass, and is looking for the best value gear he can buy. Buying cheap has bitten me more than once. But on the flip side of that I have over spent on other stuff. Also a big factor these days is married versus not married... 10 years ago when we were dating I would think nothing of spending $10k on gear, today I feel guilty if I spend $10 since I haven't worked for years. The constant thought that goes through my mind is I have spent so much now, where do you stop? I don't listen to enough music to justify what I have already spent, how do you justify spending more? But is there some kind of magic bullet that takes it to another level for relatively little money? It is a constant internal fight. I think we all have that mindset to some degree depending on our circumstances and I would never recommend to someone to buy some exe bit of network gear without trying it first unless they can buy at a price that they could easily sell and they could afford it , and the funds used weren't going to pay for their childs lifesaving operation etc etc. Some commonsense must prevail as with any larger purchase. But whether it is commonsense or not to buy the thing even if you can afford it is the question we must answer ourselves taking into account our own perspective. Despite not wanting to spend much I am still intrigued by your setup and would love to have a listen sometime. Although you have spent less in some areas you are also doing a lot yourself and that is the alternative to spending big dollars in some areas. Your time and expertise can be traded for dollars to some extent. Once your knowledge and expertise runs out then you are stuck like the rest of us with putting up with what you have or reaching for your wallet. 3
Duke40 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Just improved the SQ of my network streaming setup by upgrading DC power cables for both of my Kraftwerk II Dual LPS power supplies located on my network rack. I ordered 4 of the Gieseler Audio Canare 46S Star Quad DC power cables. It was a win . TL:DR; - upgrading the DC power cables improved my enjoyment of music - inexpensive tweak which improved/leveraged the benefits of my LPS [Kraftwerk II DuaI] - provided noticeable results - my only regret is that I wish I did this earlier Previously I already had 2 of the upgraded Gieseler Audio Canare 46S star quad DC power cables for both of my Gieseler Kraftwerk II LPS that power my each of my EtherREGENS that are located on my AV rack. With both of the Gieseler Kraftwerk II Dual LPS - that are located on my network rack - I was just using stock DC cable. With my adventures in optimising my network to improve sound quality quieting down, been thinking of finally getting upgraded DC cables for the Kraftwerk Dual II LPS now that I know what length and DC plug were required. For context my headphone audio + network path* is: NBN FTTP -> Firewalla Gold -> MikroTik CRS305 -> MikroTik CRS305 -> MikroTik CRS305 -> EtherREGEN -> Naim Audio Uniti Atom Headphone Edition -> Focal Utopia 2022 Headphones. * I find running three MikrotTik CRS305 10G switches daisy chained with Cisco Active Optical Cables [AOC], then Finisar SFPs FTLF1318P3BTL for the final single mode fibre optical connection to EtherREGEN to currently be the best for SQ. Router and all switches power by Gieseler Kraftwerk II and Kraftwerk II Dual LPS. Also utilise a combination of other power and vibration/isolation [IsoAcoustics, Townshend Audio] tweaks. Following is what I noticed [in the order that I noticed the SQ attributes, also going down the list it goes from very noticeable to only just]: Detail: Initially thought I had accidentally moved the volume button up as I was hearing more detail, crisp, on one song noticed whispers between musicians prior to the start of the song [never noticed that previously, maybe I am just hearing more low level detail]. Sometimes more detail can be from boosted high frequencies though not in this case - the frequency range bass/mids/highs were still in balance. Not sure why this is, maybe lower noise floor [?]. Clarity: More clarity, less congestion. Bloom: More expansive, richness. Soundstaging: More width, height, depth. Imaging: More focussed, instruments in their own defined space. PRaT: Especially pace and rhythm, especially for rock. Poor recordings: Still sound poor or just OK. Good recordings: Sound better. Great recordings: Sound better. For perspective sometimes I make a change and it results in either: - SQ degrades - No improvement - One step forward, one step back - Marginal positive improvement - Noticeable positive improvement Noticeable positive improvement was what I found with upgrading to Canare 46S star quad DC power cables. Upgrading DC power cables was a nice inexpensive surprise in improving SQ. In this case I used Gieseler upgraded DC power cables, have also previously used Ghent Audio [when I had other brand LPS] who also make good DC power cables. 3
Assisi Posted July 4 Posted July 4 There has been a bit of water under the bridge since I last posted in this thread. I have mentioned previously that I liked the AOC Cisco cable. Recently there has been mention on another Forum of posters who have used DAC cables. I purchased a Cisco Genuine DAC. After it settled over a few days, I considered that it was better than the AOC. I decided on a 2mt cable. The Melco C1-D20 SFP+ is only 2mt. It is said that with the Melco that the best results were obtained with 2mt. Whether that is valid or not I do not know. The results from the Cisco 2mt that I have are excellent. I expect to have an opportunity soon to trial a Melco DAC Cable. Besides the Cisco DAC cable, other DAC cables have been mentioned as being beneficial such as an Ampheon Clearskew. I have ordered one to compare. Besides the cables, I have mentioned that I have two Nordost Qnet switches. I have only been able to power one with an LPS. As of today, I now have WEISS LPS that can power both Nordosts. Initially there was set back making the changes. Eventually everything was connected, working and I had music. After a few hours of settling I could discern a small benefit with LPS. Very Happy. John 5
Assisi Posted August 17 Posted August 17 On 04/07/2024 at 9:43 PM, Assisi said: Besides the Cisco DAC cable, other DAC cables have been mentioned as being beneficial such as an Ampheon Clearskew. I have ordered one to compare. I have spelt the clearskew cable brand name above incorrectly. It should be Ampleon. The ordered cable took over 6 weeks to arrive. It has been running and settling for 2days - 50 hours now. An unexpected but Impressive result compared the Cisco genuine that it has replaced. I have a play list playing. I was in an adjacent room not taking much notice of what was playing. I then realised I was hearing many high and mid frequency notes that had more noticeable clarity and musicality. More real. I kept thinking that with the various special notes, I hadn't heard that or that before. On another forum others mention that the cable takes 4 days to settle. It will be interesting as to how much more benefit there is. For A$86 posted despite the time delay a bargain. I hope to have a lend of a Melco C1 SFP+ DAC cable next week to try and compare. John 1
Assisi Posted August 31 Posted August 31 On 17/08/2024 at 1:58 PM, Assisi said: I hope to have a lend of a Melco C1 SFP+ DAC cable next week to try and compare. I have pursued the utilisation of SFP ports on a couple switches and FMCs in my network over a few years. I started with SFP modules connected with separate optical cables. I was not overly impressed with the various configurations that I tried. Then I read about AOC where the modules and the optical cables are an integrated unit. There was a small benefit improvement. Next, I came across DAC cables where the SFP modules are connected with copper instead of the optical. Initial endeavours were not beneficially exciting. I mentioned in a post above that I tried a Cisco genuine. Definite exciting benefit. This is the stage I am up to now. The benefit from an Amphleon DAC cable compared to the Cisco genuine was an impressive step up. I got the Melco cable just over a week ago and it was connected. Once again after settling time over approx. five days more listening benefit. The sound is now even more smooth, 3d and very musical with the highs mids and bass. Lovely. The difference between the Melco and the Amphleon was not as marked as that between the Amphleon and the Cisco. On an expense performance basis though, the Amphleon is a bargain. The Melco will be staying. It is hard to not keep it as there is benefit despite the expense. A Vertere RJ45 is much more expensive. I did mention the Amphleon to another Forum member. His phone call comments when he tried a cable after one day was pure excitement with the outcome. John
Assisi Posted September 2 Posted September 2 On 31/08/2024 at 11:21 AM, Assisi said: The Melco will be staying. It is hard to not keep it as there is benefit despite the expense. To an extent my network setup is dictated by space considerations and cable lengths as to where various components can be placed on the rack. I prescribe to the perspective of placing what I consider to be the best aspects last in the network. Until now the network starts with SoTM first followed by the Melco. I did wonder because of the benefit of the DAC cables what would be the outcome of having the SoTM and Melco after the other switches. I wanted the two switches connected to each other with the Melco DAC cable to be after the Waversa Router and before the Waversa Hub 3. It was bit tricky working out the new connection configurations as the RJ45 cables all are directional and the LPS cables are a bit too short. I did it eventually work it out. I consider that the outcome was marginally better than the previous setup. I am pleased with the outcome and will leave it as is for the time being. More listening. John 1
dbastin Posted September 2 Posted September 2 8 hours ago, Assisi said: To an extent my network setup is dictated by space considerations and cable lengths as to where various components can be placed on the rack. I prescribe to the perspective of placing what I consider to be the best aspects last in the network. Until now the network starts with SoTM first followed by the Melco. I did wonder because of the benefit of the DAC cables what would be the outcome of having the SoTM and Melco after the other switches. I wanted the two switches connected to each other with the Melco DAC cable to be after the Waversa Router and before the Waversa Hub 3. It was bit tricky working out the new connection configurations as the RJ45 cables all are directional and the LPS cables are a bit too short. I did it eventually work it out. I consider that the outcome was marginally better than the previous setup. I am pleased with the outcome and will leave it as is for the time being. More listening. John As I recall, there was a time you had fibre from the router (Dream Machine) to Sotm, and that was Cisco AOC. Am I correct? If so, how does you signal get from router to the first switch in you 'audio' network? Also, you had a Nordost Qnet or 2 close to your endpoint because you were so impressed with them, and now you seem to be preferring to put the DAC cable closer. You like the DAC cable that much you'd put it after Qnets? Have I missed something?
Assisi Posted September 2 Posted September 2 2 hours ago, dbastin said: As I recall, there was a time you had fibre from the router (Dream Machine) to Sotm, and that was Cisco AOC. Am I correct? If so, how does you signal get from router to the first switch in you 'audio' network? Also, you had a Nordost Qnet or 2 close to your endpoint because you were so impressed with them, and now you seem to be preferring to put the DAC cable closer. You like the DAC cable that much you'd put it after Qnets? Have I missed something? Hi Dale, Your first paragraph is correct. I was not overly enthusiastic about changing the configuration. My curiosity prompted by the impressive impact of the DAC cables overcame my reluctance to change though. Plus, if my perspective about best last is right or near the end, then a DAC cable if it is better then it needs to be near the end and not the beginning. The only way I could do it was moving both the SoTM and Melcos which was tricky. I now have the Ubiquiti Dream connected to the first of the two Nordosts with a 12mt Avanti Cable that I bought some years ago and stopped using when I started with the AOC. Ideally I would like another FMC at the beginning connected to the Ubquiti via a DAC cable. I am not sure that there are DAC cables 12mt long. Also do I now need two Nordosts? All the Waversas were closer to the end point. I was reluctant to split them connected to each other. I chose to put the SoTM and the Melco between the Waversa Router and before the Waversa Hub 3. There seems to be a special synergy between the Hub 3 and the Waversa Filter conditioner that is connected to the Weiss streamer. My streaming outcome is wonderful. I think that you are on other Forums where there has been comment about DAC cables. I assume that you are aware of the experience of others with these cables.. John
JayM Posted September 28 Posted September 28 (edited) I have a simple and cheap set up: 1. RPi4 running PcP with a 2TB SSD drive. 2. RPi4 with a Pi2AES HAT feeding AES digital straight to a Minidsp PWR-ICE125 driving lxmini. 3. Music player is Symphonic-MPD, and can only run via ethernet. Both RPi4 used to be connected to the main router with ethernet. Ethernet cables are just Jaycar types. Cat6 or 6A. A few months ago work was cleaning out the IT cupboard and there was a really old TP-Link Switch. I paid $20 and got it. 9V wall wart. I hooked up the TP-Link switch to the 2 RPi4 devices, and then the switch to the router, and sounded better. So proof of concept was successful. Recently was browsing Naim forums and got a Netgear GS105E, a 4 port managed switch with a 12V standard switch supply. Cascaded it with the TP-Link, and so so improvement. I then got a Cisco 2960, cascaded initially before, then after the Netgear GS105E. Massive improvement. Like incredibly more bass. Weird and I can’t figure out why this was the effect. Then a week ago, put my KECES 12V LPS to power the Netgear GS105E, instead of the wall wart. This now took the Netgear up to the same magnitude of improvement as what I experienced with the introduction of the Cisco 2960. This time I had the power save mode of the Netgear going, and I also enabled a VLAN on the Netgear. There is so much more definition to the bass. And the presentation became way more natural. The NAIM forums had said the Netgear is not much chop with the standard power supply, but given the ifi iPowerX – then turned into something much better. I can actually focus on different parts of the music and hear into it. Captivating and much more natural than before (comparatively). So based on my own personal system, the lessons are: 1. Introducing a switch into the audio reproduction chain is an improvement over connecting straight to the main wifi router/switch. 2. One Cisco 2960 is a massive improvement in its own right, with its own mains power. 3. Netgear GS105E – so so in its stock configuration. 4. Netgear GS105E – with a 12v LPS, massive improvement. 5. Cascaded Cisco 2960 and Netgear GS105E with 12v LPS – is better than each one on its own. The combination gives you all the advantages of each added together. Cost – the Cisco 2960 cost me $50 plus postage. Netgear cost $40 plus postage. The KECES I already had. I have ordered 2 more Cisco 2960 switches. I expect them mid week next week. Will also order a 10-pack of 1 foot ethernet cables from Amazon. Keep the cable length from switch to switch to the minimum. For $20 plus postage - what's to lose? That's a good bottle of wine. which I will now have to forego this week! Probably healthier for me too! Jay Edited September 28 by JayM 3
dbastin Posted September 28 Posted September 28 3 hours ago, JayM said: I have a simple and cheap set up: 1. RPi4 running PcP with a 2TB SSD drive. 2. RPi4 with a Pi2AES HAT feeding AES digital straight to a Minidsp PWR-ICE125 driving lxmini. 3. Music player is Symphonic-MPD, and can only run via ethernet. Both RPi4 used to be connected to the main router with ethernet. Ethernet cables are just Jaycar types. Cat6 or 6A. A few months ago work was cleaning out the IT cupboard and there was a really old TP-Link Switch. I paid $20 and got it. 9V wall wart. I hooked up the TP-Link switch to the 2 RPi4 devices, and then the switch to the router, and sounded better. So proof of concept was successful. Recently was browsing Naim forums and got a Netgear GS105E, a 4 port managed switch with a 12V standard switch supply. Cascaded it with the TP-Link, and so so improvement. I then got a Cisco 2960, cascaded initially before, then after the Netgear GS105E. Massive improvement. Like incredibly more bass. Weird and I can’t figure out why this was the effect. Then a week ago, put my KECES 12V LPS to power the Netgear GS105E, instead of the wall wart. This now took the Netgear up to the same magnitude of improvement as what I experienced with the introduction of the Cisco 2960. This time I had the power save mode of the Netgear going, and I also enabled a VLAN on the Netgear. There is so much more definition to the bass. And the presentation became way more natural. The NAIM forums had said the Netgear is not much chop with the standard power supply, but given the ifi iPowerX – then turned into something much better. I can actually focus on different parts of the music and hear into it. Captivating and much more natural than before (comparatively). So based on my own personal system, the lessons are: 1. Introducing a switch into the audio reproduction chain is an improvement over connecting straight to the main wifi router/switch. 2. One Cisco 2960 is a massive improvement in its own right, with its own mains power. 3. Netgear GS105E – so so in its stock configuration. 4. Netgear GS105E – with a 12v LPS, massive improvement. 5. Cascaded Cisco 2960 and Netgear GS105E with 12v LPS – is better than each one on its own. The combination gives you all the advantages of each added together. Cost – the Cisco 2960 cost me $50 plus postage. Netgear cost $40 plus postage. The KECES I already had. I have ordered 2 more Cisco 2960 switches. I expect them mid week next week. Will also order a 10-pack of 1 foot ethernet cables from Amazon. Keep the cable length from switch to switch to the minimum. For $20 plus postage - what's to lose? That's a good bottle of wine. which I will now have to forego this week! Probably healthier for me too! Jay Oh dear, you are on the slippery slopes at the entry of this rabbit Warren. I reckon before long you'll find yourself forgoing much more wine (and other things) and consider it good value trade off. Take care to get decent cables, for example Cat6a with sheilding inside the plastic plug, and no cable shield [ie. UTP). Try to put each switch on a different AC circuit, and at least different to your audio gear. (Maybe power the RPis with batteries). That will be especially valuable when you discover fibre ethernet (oops, cat out of the bag). I suggest trying a 1OG switch, ideally with fibre. 10G and fibre are great value. Enjoy yourself.
TerryO Posted September 29 Posted September 29 (edited) I just read the latest posts on this thread and it finally dawned on me, yes I’m slow, that the title of this thread, being, … ‘Subjective Experiences With All Things Ethernet’ could of been and in years past would more than likely been called … Listening Experiences With All Things Ethernet. Unfortunately as we all know now Hifi enthusiasts have in many cases split into two camps, Subjectivists and Objectivists. If you, like me, base your Hifi experiences and preferences on what you hear then unfortunately now you often find yourself challenged by those amongst us who often mock and demand actual proof to back up what you have heard and then dismiss your experiences because you can’t provide absolute proof. This having to often defend your personal listening experiences that you are sharing on any open Hifi forum I consider quite damaging and off putting for many who enjoy this great hobby. While this thread hasn’t really gone down that path still it just dawned on me when I read the latest posts that the we now often find ourselves referring to our subjective experiences rather than just saying this is what I hear. To me Hifi and it’s enjoyment or at the other end of the listening spectrum being dislike is all about what I hear. cheers, Terry Edited September 29 by TerryO 7
Administrator StereoNET Posted September 29 Administrator Posted September 29 I think there are other forums for those that are strictly into measurements/science/objective approaches, where they are welcomed and actually encouraged. I'd like to think that both camps and those that traverse somewhere in the middle are welcome here, and posting is always within the spirit of stereonet, else it attracts the attention of moderators. We are however delving away from the actual topic now though 4
rantan Posted September 29 Posted September 29 4 minutes ago, StereoNET said: I'd like to think that both camps and those that traverse somewhere in the middle are welcome here, and posting is always within the spirit of stereonet, Amen to that. 1
Snoopy8 Posted September 29 Author Posted September 29 2 hours ago, StereoNET said: I'd like to think that both camps and those that traverse somewhere in the middle are welcome here, and posting is always within the spirit of stereonet, else it attracts the attention of moderators. Yes, it is now possible to post without the heat. It was daunting starting this subjective topic. At that time, most of the subjective posts were challenged endlessly and drowned out in all the other Ethernet threads. Hence the links at the beginning of the thread to highlight the positive listening experiences. 5 1
dbastin Posted October 14 Posted October 14 (edited) The bottom line seems to be there are things outside your network that still influence what you could hear from streaming, namely: latency due to what upload speed your plan enables nbn NTD (which belongs to nbn) possibly other nbn hardware upstream of the NTD Edited October 14 by dbastin format - dot points
Gryffles Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Well I received an Edis Creation Fibre Box II today. I already have his Silent Switch oxco so made sense. I did do a bit of research on WBF as theres an engaging and free flowing thread re switches and the like. Feedback from actual users indicated I was doing the correct thing by purchasing the Fibre Box rather than getting a better PSU for the Silent Switch (it was one or the other to suit budget). I also asked Edison from Edis Creation and he concurred. Straight out of the box and with a new Oyaide Black Mamba power cord it's an absolute no brainer. What he says on his site re its performance is exactly what I have found. I can heartily recommend this bit of kit to the streaming crowd! Just dawned on me that once I get another Sablon ethernet cable to replace the Supra (best spare cable I had on hand) I will notice a further improvement. 2
Assisi Posted November 20 Posted November 20 On 31/08/2024 at 11:21 AM, Assisi said: I did mention the Amphleon to another Forum member. His phone call comments when he tried a cable after one day was pure excitement with the outcome. John I visited that particular Forum member mentioned above today for listen to his system. He has 8 switches and now has two Amphleon DAC cables. The system is seriously impressive. I took my one and only Melco DAC cable on the visit. At a point we replaced one of the Amphleons with the Melco. After a short settling there was noticeable improvement. More in the the highs and lows plus an overall strength in the sound. John
dbastin Posted November 20 Posted November 20 36 minutes ago, Assisi said: has 8 switches and now has two Amphleon DAC cables Wowser, what switches? Perhaps a combination of regular and 'audiophile'? This could be of interest ... Best audiophile switch | What's Best Forum https://www.reikiaudio.com/
Assisi Posted November 20 Posted November 20 10 hours ago, dbastin said: Wowser, what switches? Perhaps a combination of regular and 'audiophile'? This could be of interest ... Best audiophile switch | What's Best Forum https://www.reikiaudio.com/ At the beginning of the Forum member's network after the Modem there is a Fidelizer Router followed by an optical converter then switches. Switches Etheregen, 2 x Cisco Meraki 2X different LHYs, Bonn N8 and Bonn N16 and SoTM. I am not sure what the sequence of switches is at the moment. It changes with the pursuit of the best combination. I have swapped posts with Nigel from Reiki. There is overall consensus. He considers however that I have possibly gone too far with my network. I am pleased with what I have achieved with my only seven switches. John 1
Assisi Posted November 28 Posted November 28 Shi Tone Cable. I had on loan a 1 mt Shi Tone Ethernet cable made by DACMAN AUDIO. Curiosity. The listening impression was that the cable provided a more serious outcome than I expected. Initially I had it as the third last connection in the network. I exchanged it for one of the two Verteres and put it last. After a week of settling and running tuning files for over 100 hours, I am going to leave it where it is. The beneficial difference between the two cables is minscule. I am very satisfied with the outcome. Price wise excellent value John 2 1
Gryffles Posted November 28 Posted November 28 2 hours ago, Assisi said: Shi Tone Cable. I had on loan a 1 mt Shi Tone Ethernet cable made by DACMAN AUDIO. Curiosity. The listening impression was that the cable provided a more serious outcome than I expected. Initially I had it as the third last connection in the network. I exchanged it for one of the two Verteres and put it last. After a week of settling and running tuning files for over 100 hours, I am going to leave it where it is. The beneficial difference between the two cables is minscule. I am very satisfied with the outcome. Price wise excellent value John Thanks for sharing. What is the price?
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