Volunteer Kazz Posted October 31, 2023 Volunteer Share Posted October 31, 2023 Eversolo have announced a new model, the DMP-A8 Streamer/DAC/PreAMP https://www.eversolo.com/Product/index/model/DMP-A8/target/uXoirEESmeVKKmVViAFMcQ%3D%3D.html Specs: Model EVERSOLO DMP-A8 Display 6" LCD touchscreen Internal Memory 4GDDR4 +64GeMMC DAC AK4191EQ+AK4499EX Audio Processor XMOS XU316 Op-amp Chip OPA1612 Power Supply High-quality, low-noise linear + digital dual power supply SSD Support M.2 NVME 3.0 2280 protocol, up to 4TB (SSD isn't included). USB-A Port USB3.0*2 Ethernet RJ-45(10/100/1000Mbps) WiFi WiFi 2.4G+5G dual band Playback and DAC Decoding Support up to stereo DSD512, PCM 768KHz 32Bit Music Service Tidal, Qobuz, Highresaudio, Amazon Music, Deezer, Radio Paradise, WebDAV, UPnP Streaming Air Play, DLNA, Tidal Connect etc. Bluetooth Audio Input BLuetooth BT5.0, support SBC/AAC/aptX/aptX LL/aptX HD/LDAC USB-B Audio Input Supports Windows (10, 11), Android, IOS. Support up to stereo DSD512, PCM 768KHz 32Bit. Optical/Coaxial Audio Input Support up to stereo PCM 192KHz 24Bit, Dop64 HDMI ARC Support up to stereo PCM 192KHz 24Bit Analog preamp audio input XLR(Balanced)*1+RCA(Unbalanced), Maximum Gain +10dB USB Audio Output Support up to stereo DSD512,PCM 768KHz 32Bit IIS Output Support up to stereo DSD512, PCM 768KHz 32Bit Optical/Coaxial Audio Output Support up to stereo PCM 192KHz 24Bit, Dop64 Analog Audio Output Preamp Audio Output:XLR(Balanced)+RCA(UnBalanced) XLR Output Audio Characteristics Output level: 4.2V Frequency response: 20Hz~20KHz(±0. 25dB) Dynamic range: > 128dB SNR: >128dB THD+N: <0.00009%(-120dB) @No-wt Crosstalk: >-121dB RCA Output Audio Characteristics Output level: 2.1V Frequency response: 20Hz~20KHz (±0. 25dB) Dynamic range: > 125dB SNR: >125dB THD+N: <0.00010%(-119dB)@A-WT Crosstalk: >-121dB Control Method Mobile App,Touch screen control,IR+Bluetooth remote control PSU AC 110~240V 50/60Hz Rated Power 16W Dimensions W 388mm*L 248mm* H 90mm Packing List Power cable*1, Remote Control*1,Screwdriver*1,user manual*1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRolley Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Loving my A6… I’m only using it as a streamer though. I reckon just a streamer would be a good offering from EverSolo. Still, I’ll be interested to hear peoples impressions of this new A8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrology Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Not a full size component according to the specs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) What’s the pricing and where is this model sits in the line up? https://www.selby.com.au/newsletter/eversolo-dmp-a6.html https://www.selby.com.au/newsletter/eversolo-dmp-a6-master-edition.html Neo Edited October 31, 2023 by Neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Kazz Posted November 1, 2023 Author Volunteer Share Posted November 1, 2023 16 hours ago, Neo said: What’s the pricing and where is this model sits in the line up? Neo According to a poster on the Zidoo forum $1999 USD. As to where it sits in the line up, I'm not sure, it's purely 2ch apparently but does have the pre amp feature/hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 How about this combo? DMP-A8 as streamer and preamp NAD C298 as the amp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 36 minutes ago, JBO said: How about this combo? DMP-A8 as streamer and preamp NAD C298 as the amp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddles 63 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) https://darko.audio/2023/11/eversolos-dmp-a8-creeps-into-the-wild/ Edited November 1, 2023 by Braddles 63 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjohn Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 It will be interesting to see the price of this one. Different DAC and extra inputs. The obvious review comparisons will be soon upon us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Kazz Posted November 18, 2023 Author Volunteer Share Posted November 18, 2023 On 2/11/2023 at 10:37 AM, pjohn said: It will be interesting to see the price of this one. Selby have it up for pre-order now at $2,999.00. Current ETA 31/12/23. https://www.selby.com.au/newsletter/eversolo-dmp-a8-music-streamer-dac-pre-amplifier.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehrmantraut Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Sandu has done a review. Upgrades from A6 appear to be dedicated dual PS, AKM DAC chips over ESS and R2R preamp. The DSP function appears to be quite powerful. Digital output has I2S.. https://soundnews.net/reviews/eversolo-dmp-a8-world-premiere-review/ If you’re using the A6 as a pure streamer, I’d stick with it, wonderful unit despite some software glitches. If you’re going to use the functionality, then A8 may be worth it. I have one incoming. Will post some thoughts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 "Hi-Res Audio & Master Recording Decoding The DMP-A8 is Hi-Res Audio certified by JAS, which equates to guaranteed superior sound quality. Almost all ultra-high sampling master recording formats are supported by DMP-A8, including CD-quality formats (FLAC, WAV, APE), DSD512 (.dsf/.dff/.iso/.dst) stereo/multichannel and MQA. MQA (Master Quality Authenticated) technology enables you to play back MQA audio files and streams, delivering the sound of the original master recording." How does it do multichannel audio with no HDMI output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromelang Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I've been looking for a streamer/dac/pre-amp with arc-HDMI and analogue input. this one seems to fit the bill. any other choices out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehrmantraut Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 7:26 AM, powerav said: "Hi-Res Audio & Master Recording Decoding The DMP-A8 is Hi-Res Audio certified by JAS, which equates to guaranteed superior sound quality. Almost all ultra-high sampling master recording formats are supported by DMP-A8, including CD-quality formats (FLAC, WAV, APE), DSD512 (.dsf/.dff/.iso/.dst) stereo/multichannel and MQA. MQA (Master Quality Authenticated) technology enables you to play back MQA audio files and streams, delivering the sound of the original master recording." How does it do multichannel audio with no HDMI output. It mentions HDMI ARC in the overview https://www.eversolo.com/Product/index/model/DMP-A8/target/uXoirEESmeVKKmVViAFMcQ%3D%3D.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehrmantraut Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Initial thoughts. Build quality is the same as A6 - so good Interface and setup like the A6 - easy Not Roon ready! - yet! I'd say tonal quality and overall SQ is quite similar to A6 - the Eversolo "house" sound. R2R Preamp is quite lovely to use, tactile and exact. No obvious improvement in SQ over digital volume in A6 though Need to find time to use DSP function TLDR - If you have an A6, you'd be pushed to find dramatic improvements with the considerable $$ increase in A8. If you're using A6 as a streamer/end point only, then it's no contest. The preamp function on the A8 is very good but I'm unsure if it's any better than the digital version in the A6 or things like Leedh. SQ impressions are similar to the A6, perhaps more space and fluidity - whatever that means. I need to use the DSP. I need more time with it and it may need to burn-in too, if you believe that sort of thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehrmantraut Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Ehrmantraut said: Initial thoughts. Build quality is the same as A6 - so good Interface and setup like the A6 - easy Not Roon ready! - yet! I'd say tonal quality and overall SQ is quite similar to A6 - the Eversolo "house" sound. R2R Preamp is quite lovely to use, tactile and exact. No obvious improvement in SQ over digital volume in A6 though Need to find time to use DSP function TLDR - If you have an A6, you'd be pushed to find dramatic improvements with the considerable $$ increase in A8. If you're using A6 as a streamer/end point only, then it's no contest. The preamp function on the A8 is very good but I'm unsure if it's any better than the digital version in the A6 or things like Leedh. SQ impressions are similar to the A6, perhaps more space and fluidity - whatever that means. I need to use the DSP. I need more time with it and it may need to burn-in too, if you believe that sort of thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromelang Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ehrmantraut said: TLDR - If you have an A6, you'd be pushed to find dramatic improvements with the considerable $$ increase in A8. I bet you have the A6/A8 stacked on top of each other.... Edited December 11, 2023 by jeromelang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromelang Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 should people wait for the master version of the A8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 @jeromelang any other choices out there ............ Lumin P1, but 4-5 times the price 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehrmantraut Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 14 hours ago, jeromelang said: should people wait for the master version of the A8? My feeling is that it depends on whether the "master" version of the A6 was worth the $$ in SQ improvements. I liken this to the KTE versions of the Holo gear and further to the car industry where they add things like spoilers to existing vehicles. Is it a noticeable improvement in performance or simply a profit grab. Many manufacturers feed our FOMO and create tiers of ownership. Given how quickly Eversolo brought out the A8, maybe wait for an A10, 20, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjohn Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 What I'd like to see is a version that had less bells and whistles to bring the price down. A streaming transport with no DAC but keep the touch screen for the album art, and the relevant outputs. At the right price this would be a winner! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, pjohn said: What I'd like to see is a version that had less bells and whistles to bring the price down. A streaming transport with no DAC but keep the touch screen for the album art, and the relevant outputs. At the right price this would be a winner! I think you are missing the point of a good streamer/DAC. Done properly, a good one will beat the SQ of an equivalent streamer + DAC + cable, without having to spend the time, effort and money to stitch all 3 parts together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehrmantraut Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Snoopy8 said: I think you are missing the point of a good streamer/DAC. Done properly, a good one will beat the SQ of an equivalent streamer + DAC + cable, without having to spend the time, effort and money to stitch all 3 parts together. Agree. The idea of seperates is that you can get the best unit for each function and that "should" result in better SQ than an AIO. However, the biggest problem with that is synergy. I believe synergy between components (let alone cables) is an overlooked area. I've had great components not play well with each other and sound worse than lesser regarded items. A good AIO like the Lumin P1 (or T3) can be a very good thing. Other less obvious AIOs include Mola Tambaqui, Gustard R(A/D)26, Emm Labs MA3, Naim Uniti AtomHE etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 23 hours ago, jeromelang said: I've been looking for a streamer/dac/pre-amp with arc-HDMI and analogue input. I am aware of many streamer/dac/pre-amp but the requirement for both ARC HDMI input and analogue input has drastically cut the list down. Besides the Lumin P1 that @maximus mentioned, there is the NAD M66, Matrix Audio Element X2, X2 Pure, Simaudio Moon 791, 891. The Eversolo A8 is certainly value for money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjohn Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Snoopy8 said: I think you are missing the point of a good streamer/DAC. Done properly, a good one will beat the SQ of an equivalent streamer + DAC + cable, without having to spend the time, effort and money to stitch all 3 parts together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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