Snoopy8 Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 6 hours ago, krebetman said: As somebody else in this thread noted, the systems i enjoyed most (with the exception of March) had done a lot on the network side, with audiophile switches, fibre bridges and other tricks. Can you please elaborate of what exhibitors were using? As you know, audiophile switches have been controversial and I hope asking this will not start yet another round of bitter arguments.
krebetman Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Snoopy8 said: Can you please elaborate of what exhibitors were using? As you know, audiophile switches have been controversial and I hope asking this will not start yet another round of bitter arguments. Definitely lots of audiophile switches and fibre converters. It may be coincidence that I noticed such devices in the rooms I mostly enjoyed the most, of course. Some examples were the Nordost switch in that mega Linn/D'Agostino/Wilson display, fibre converters behind the Fyne system and Dacman Audio using what looked like multiple cascaded switches (as well as Denafrips DDC and master clock devices). Would have loved a before/after comparison but asking would definitely have put me in PRATT territory! Edited October 22, 2023 by krebetman 4
Addicted to music Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Snoopy8 said: Can you please elaborate of what exhibitors were using? As you know, audiophile switches have been controversial and I hope asking this will not start yet another round of bitter arguments. maybe @Assisi can chime in here. He was in the same room asI was in the D’Agostino Wilson room when a rep gave a presentation on audiophile switches……. It’s the usual spew that you see on websites….. I’m not into switches as I know how they work, so it was a boring lecture for me…. Edited October 23, 2023 by Addicted to music 2
Assisi Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Addicted to music said: I’m not into switches as I know how they work, so it was a boring lecture for me…. Peter as you know we do sing from different hymn books. I do not know how switches in a technical or electronic design level work. What I do know is that some provide beneficial streaming listening outcomes. That is all that is important to me The switch was a Nordost Qnet. The Nordost rep Bjorn did provide an interesting explanation with some of the considerations that were part of switch design. As I say above, I do not know how switches work. As I have a Qnet I did find the explanation interesting including the matter of the two clocks, the five internal LMS and the circular design to increase socket separation to provide isolation. There was one comment that I did question. The Qnet has five Ethernet sockets. Two are Megabit and three Gigabit. Bjorn said that for audio purposes the slower speed was preferred. As I had looked at the connections, I asked the question why therefore were the socket connections Gigabit? The answer was that the connections were the Megabit. Later Bjorn told me that I was right. The connections were not as he thought. We all make wrong connections from time to time. For me the Qnet provides a serious listening benefit. At this time, mine is powered only via the standard SMPS supplied with the switch. The switch in the Sound Gallery Room was powered via a Nordost QSOURCE LMS plus a special DC cable. I am advised this provides a better result. I have the matter under consideration. As well there is a special stand that the one in the room was on. I do not have the stand. Remember Peter you do have an invitation to visit and listen to streaming using network switches. Who knows you may cross to the other side. John 2
Guest Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Moved out of the Show Impressions thread to its own dedicated thread where further exploration and discussion can be had. 6
Snoopy8 Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 @Dacman Curious to know what audiophile switches you used that made the music at your stand sound good ? 1
Dacman Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Snoopy8 said: @Dacman Curious to know what audiophile switches you used that made the music at your stand sound good ? fidelizer router>meraki enterprise router>meraki enterprise router>LHY SW6>SOTM>Denafrips Arce Streamer. best results require good power supplies and ethernet cables. the switches were all linked in series. unfortunately we were not able to play both merakis until sunday when i believe we achieved our best sound for the weekend.... 5
Gandra Posted May 5 Posted May 5 Finally got a chance to test the Ether Regen switch, which I had for more than a year in my system. It is powered by the Manunta low noise PS unit bought recently from Sydney HIFI Castle Hill. On all tracks played, this switch resulted in better definition, 3d imaging and defined space between instruments. A keeper definitely. 3
Dacman Posted May 6 Posted May 6 8 hours ago, Gandra said: Finally got a chance to test the Ether Regen switch, which I had for more than a year in my system. It is powered by the Manunta low noise PS unit bought recently from Sydney HIFI Castle Hill. On all tracks played, this switch resulted in better definition, 3d imaging and defined space between instruments. A keeper definitely. Consider upgrading ethernet cables and this unit takes an external clock. So....if you can just borrow a clock and ethernet cable just to see what it does ....I'm confident you will like the results.... 1
Gandra Posted May 7 Posted May 7 On 06/05/2024 at 4:12 PM, Dacman said: Consider upgrading ethernet cables and this unit takes an external clock. So....if you can just borrow a clock and ethernet cable just to see what it does ....I'm confident you will like the results.... Thanks Dman, sounds doable. So you reckon the stock Cat6 cable isn't good enough? I assume you're talking about the cable from the EtherRegen to the streamaer? Can you suggest a cost effective clocker unit? I think the shop has a matching Manunta clock, which could be worth trying.
Dacman Posted May 7 Posted May 7 17 minutes ago, Gandra said: Thanks Dman, sounds doable. So you reckon the stock Cat6 cable isn't good enough? I assume you're talking about the cable from the EtherRegen to the streamaer? Can you suggest a cost effective clocker unit? I think the shop has a matching Manunta clock, which could be worth trying. all of the ethernet cables......can of worms with ethernet cables some are good are not most are too expensive ...its just a cable...but they are all different...with clocks though the cheaper ones are a waste of money as are the overly priced ones...i do suggest reading the online forums and see what the actual users are saying... 1
LoveKnight Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Hello, everyone. I would like to share some of my impressions about my audiophile network switch. My switch is Melco S100 Afterdark Mod I just bought from Classified two weeks ago. After I plugged the switch into my chain I could hear the noise floor decreased and better background, image, soundstage, a little more details. All with stock smps. I would say that overall the percentage of using an audio switch in my chain is about 10-20%. I still saving money for LPS units, better power isolation, better cables and so on. 2
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