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Hi everyone, looking for advise, always had a bit of static electricity discharge when removing a record or lifting the tonearm but since I change our floating floor to hybrid my amp has joined the task to kill me...

The discharges have increased from both Amplifier and TT , all grounds are connected and continuity tested.

I noted the new floor as it is mostly plastic ( PVC) and only thing that change in that area🤔

How to get rid of reduce the amount of static electricity?

Any help/ advice will be appreciated.

 

 

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3 hours ago, silencer13 said:

Get a humidifier, raise the humidity in the room to 60-65%.

you can also get an ion blower to remove static.

 

i use the above 2 methods plus a Zerostat gun to remove static from my records.

I usually use one of those plasma bbq igniters for my records ( misplaced when did the floors) but never had problems with my amp...

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If you're getting it from the amp as well, sounds more like you're generating static either by your feet on the floor, or maybe what you're sitting on. When you come in contact with the grounded chassis of any equipment you get the discharge.

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On 22/10/2023 at 8:44 PM, southern_tango said:

Hi everyone, looking for advice, always had a bit of static electricity discharge when removing a record or lifting the tonearm but since I change our floating floor to hybrid my amp has joined the task to kill me...

The discharges have increased from both Amplifier and TT , all grounds are connected and continuity tested.

I noted the new floor as it is mostly plastic ( PVC) and only thing that change in that area🤔

How to get rid of reduce the amount of static electricity?

Any help/ advice will be appreciated.

 

Sadly, I suggest you won't be able to get rid of the static you are experiencing, to an acceptable level.  (Call it an "unadvertised benefit of your new plastic flooring"!  :sad: )

 

Just as an example of annoying static which I experienced - and then surprisingly removed, when I made a change to my TT:

  • I had no static when lifting records off the platter with the original version of my 'SkeletaLinn' TT.  (Chassis made of aluminium C-section.)
  • I then changed the chassis to Delrin (a plastic).
  • an unexpected byproduct of this was that ... I then experienced baaad static whenever I took an LP off the platter.
  • a subsequent change to a much stiffer chassis made from Panzerholtz ... removed my static problem!  :shocked:
  • so my Delrin (plastic) chassis created static!

 

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10 hours ago, bob_m_54 said:

If you're getting it from the amp as well, sounds more like you're generating static either by your feet on the floor, or maybe what you're sitting on. When you come in contact with the grounded chassis of any equipment you get the discharge.

You could be right on that one , as I seat on a velvet sofa which has that effect...

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8 hours ago, andyr said:

 

Sadly, I suggest you won't be able to get rid of the static you are experiencing, to an acceptable level.  (Call it an "unadvertised benefit of your new plastic flooring"!  :sad: )

 

Just as an example of annoying static which I experienced - and then surprisingly removed, when I made a change to my TT:

  • I had no static when lifting records off the platter with the original version of my 'SkeletaLinn' TT.  (Chassis made of aluminium C-section.)
  • I then changed the chassis to Delrin (a plastic).
  • an unexpected byproduct of this was that ... I then experienced baaad static whenever I took an LP off the platter.
  • a subsequent change to a much stiffer chassis made from Panzerholtz ... removed my static problem!  :shocked:
  • so my Delrin (plastic) chassis created static!

 

I thought that delrin was low on static charge as it is been used as platter material...interesting...

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I’m half wookie, so sadly I’m a static electricity generator. I’m used to shocking others and being shocked so there’s simply no avoiding this.

 

On the upside the new car I have on the way has an ioniser built in so hopefully I’ll see a reduction in shocks while driving that if nothing else. ;)

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3 hours ago, southern_tango said:

I thought that delrin was low on static charge as it is been used as platter material...interesting...

 

Yes - very strange!  But after my experience - although I had discussed with Duc, when he was alive, him making me a Delrin outer platter for my SkeletaLinn ... I'm no longer going to follow up on that idea.

 

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51 minutes ago, Neo said:

Try a rubber mat in front of the setup, so you are standing on it when interacting with the components. 
Neo

 

Non-conducting *rubber* mat?  How will *that* help with static?

 

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11 hours ago, andyr said:

 

Yes - very strange!  But after my experience - although I had discussed with Duc, when he was alive, him making me a Delrin outer platter for my SkeletaLinn ... I'm no longer going to follow up on that idea.

 

andyr, couldn't help me with my curiosity and checked your TT, quite an interesting build , congrats for the result, looks incredible ( btw, it surprises me not to see you running away from the Linn fans screaming sacrilegious ) 🤓

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57 minutes ago, southern_tango said:

andyr, couldn't help me with my curiosity and checked your TT, quite an interesting build , congrats for the result, looks incredible ( btw, it surprises me not to see you running away from the Linn fans screaming sacrilegious ) 🤓

 

Thank you, s_t ... if you are in Melbourne, you might like to come over for a listen some day.  :smile:

 

(The latest Karousel bearing and the LP12 outer platter are about all that's left of an "LP12"!  :shocked: )

 

Re. Linn fans ... I did get a comment that it looked like an LP12 made from Meccano!  (Although this was with the 1st version - where the skeletal chassis was made from aluminium C-section which I had bought from Bunnings!  :lol:)

 

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The mat on the floor is a bit of an overkill. All you really need is a way of draining the static charge built up on your body, at a controlled rate, rather than a zap. So just a touch pad is really all you need. Something like this:

http://anti-staticmat.com/antistaticonetouchpad.htm

 

This is only the first result that popped up on a gooble search, you may find others.

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25 minutes ago, southern_tango said:

This issue is going crazy, just change a record..Zap , then on the next one went to rise the volume ...ZAPPP got an spark of about 7 mm to my finger ( still recovering guess my heart skipped a beat)

Have you read comments above? 

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it's either you or the system or both that's building up charge 

 

ever play spark tag as kids? I got my brother a good one once - right on the corner of the eye... couldn't stop laughing for days. the ear's another good target

to play well you need tricks for building charge and I try to avoid those when spinning - i make sure I've not got wool and/or synthetic clothing on and don't shuffle-drag your feet, etc.

 

maybe have someone nearby you can discharge-zap? "just stand there Hun" 

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