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6 minutes ago, imconfused said:

Reciever is 5.1 yamaha with no phono port turntable is a fenton and only speaker ports

 

 

Their seem to be many models of "Fenton".  Which one do you have?  If it really only has speaker ports, you really can't connect it to the Yamaha inputs easily.

 

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I'd have to assume it has a basic MM (moving magnet) cart fitted, which means virtually any inexpensive phono pre should work without issue.

 

My pick of inexpensive phono pre's would be the Schiit Mani but I'm sure others here will have their own ideas. You'll need to go RCA out from the TT to the phono pre then from the phono pre to the line in on the receiver.

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11 minutes ago, John0001 said:

I'd have to assume it has a basic MM (moving magnet) cart fitted, which means virtually any inexpensive phono pre should work without issue.

 

My pick of inexpensive phono pre's would be the Schiit Mani but I'm sure others here will have their own ideas. You'll need to go RCA out from the TT to the phono pre then from the phono pre to the line in on the receiver.

 

Be wary.  I have been looking and haven't found one with a magnetic cart yet.  They all seem to have ceramic carts.  Those left and right outs are for speakers.

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24 minutes ago, aussievintage said:

 

Be wary.  I have been looking and haven't found one with a magnetic cart yet.  They all seem to have ceramic carts.  Those left and right outs are for speakers.

 

This is a reasonable point, but then perhaps a dual MM/MC value phono like the iFi Zenphono would be an option. Start with low output MC as the assumed cartridge type and swap to MM settings on the front switch in the event there is low gain detected when playing vinyl?

 

You will be able to sell the iFi easily if you wish to upgrade etc. They are well priced and do not have huge value to lose.

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12 minutes ago, El Tel said:

but then perhaps a dual MM/MC value phono like the iFi Zenphono would be an option. Start with low output MC as the assumed cartridge type and swap to MM settings on the front switch in the event there is low gain detected when playing vinyl?

 

Unless I am missing something,  you cannot feed speaker outputs (even if only a couple of watts) into a phono preamp???

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2 minutes ago, aussievintage said:

 

Yep, they are using RCA sockets to connect to a pair of external speakers

 

Well they could be either RCAs that have yet to go through RIAA correction and that is done in each of the speakers on a per channel basis... Or, they are line level outputs post-RIAA correction, in which case they can just plug into the line in on any chosen input pair on the receiver - in other words, there is an onboard phono stage on the TT.

 

Right?

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Just now, El Tel said:

Well they could be either RCAs that have yet to go through RIAA correction and that is done in each of the speakers on a per channel basis... Or, they are line level outputs post-RIAA correction, in which case they can just plug into the line in on any chosen input pair on the receiver.

 

Right?

 

Can you see any speaker terminals?    I could not, and I doubt those little boxes are powered speakers.     I have seen cheap equipment that uses RCA plugs and sockets as speaker connectors before.  So as I said,  be wary, all might not be as it seems.

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5 minutes ago, aussievintage said:

 

Can you see any speaker terminals?    I could not, and I doubt those little boxes are powered speakers.     I have seen cheap equipment that uses RCA plugs and sockets as speaker connectors before.  So as I said,  be wary, all might not be as it seems.

 

Fair. Assumption made an ass out of me again 😆

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Yep, I took a look at the Fenton RP165 owners manual, 100W output power(LOL). You cannot connect this TT to another amp without "serious" modification of the iternals. "Enjoy" it for what it is or buy another TT...

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