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As per the Title I am seeking some advice for a decent quality ethernet-to-WiFi adaptor.

 

One of the streamers I may be considering has ethernet connection only, but I need it to work on WiFi as my router is two rooms away. I need a high quality unit so connection speeds won't be negatively impacted.

My home network gets very good speed and is stable and reliable, so any suggestions are welcome.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, rantan said:

As per the Title I am seeking some advice for a decent quality ethernet-to-WiFi adaptor.

 

One of the streamers I may be considering has ethernet connection only, but I need it to work on WiFi as my router is two rooms away. I need a high quality unit so connection speeds won't be negatively impacted.

My home network gets very good speed and is stable and reliable, so any suggestions are welcome.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Does the streamer have any usb ports? A normal USB wifi adapter might work. You'd be surprised how things can recognise and use stuff plugged into their usb ports. Of course it would depend on the streamer software.

 

This is another reason to consider moOde on and Pi.  Much more flexible.

 

I agree that wifi can give good performance these days.   I commonly stream video over wifi.

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8 minutes ago, aussievintage said:

This is another reason to consider moOde on and Pi.  Much more flexible

 

My apologies for this, but I have no idea what this means. When it commes to streamers and sortware my level of expertise and understanding is 1% of OK.

Only one of the streamers I am considering has ethernet only and that is the Innuos Pulse Mini, to which this adaptor would be connected.

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38 minutes ago, rantan said:

 

My apologies for this, but I have no idea what this means. When it commes to streamers and sortware my level of expertise and understanding is 1% of OK.

 

No, my apologies as well.   moOde is player/streamer software that runs on a Raspberry Pi single board computer (shortened to rPi).

 

https://moodeaudio.org

 

I mentioned it in this context because it has multiple USB ports as well as inbuilt wifi and ethernet ports.

 

If you aren't up to building it yourself, you see people selling prebuilt ones from time to time.  As I said, it's very flexible.  There's all sorts of output options, but a simple USB DAC works as well as anything (IMHO :) )

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Let me get this right,

 

You are considering a streamer that only has an Ethernet port and you want to your wifi to work with this.

 

Here are your options. 

 

Option 1:

get a cheap AP wifi extender with ethernet port will enable you to do this.  The disadvantage of this type of AP is that it reduces the wifi speed to 50% 

 

Option 2.  Change you main wifi router and go mesh.   A mesh system usually involves 2 or 3  units and you Can chain multiples depending on the make and model and most will have ethernet ports and doesn’t compromise wifi speed as it uses a 3rd wifi channel as a back haul.  
i went this option and never looked back.

 

 

 

Both options won’t require you to occupy a USB port.    

 

 

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Posted (edited)
17 hours ago, Addicted to music said:

Let me get this right,

 

17 hours ago, Addicted to music said:

You are considering a streamer that only has an Ethernet port and you want to your wifi to work with this.

 

Yes, that is correct.

 

As to your options, number one is out, but number two is a possibility, although I am really looking for a really simple solution like an actual adaptor to connect to the back panel of the streamer.

 

The other thing is that I may decide its all too hard and just buy a streamer that does wi fi straight up. Myabe I will check out an online computer parts website or Ebay/Amazon

 

I do appreciate your suggestions though👍

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Just now, rantan said:

As to your options, number one is out, but number two is a possibility, although I am really looking for a really simple solution like an actual adaptor to connect to the back panel of the streamer.

 

The thing is, it can't be too simple.  Firstly, it will need it's own power supply, and also, it will need a means to configure it - probably a phone app like you need for smart lights etc, as you need some way to communicate with it and set the wifi up.

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1 minute ago, aussievintage said:

 

The thing is, it can't be too simple.  Firstly, it will need it's own power supply, and also, it will need a means to configure it - probably a phone app like you need for smart lights etc, as you need some way to communicate with it and set the wifi up.

 

Yes, I can see that now.

 

My problem in this area is a lack of knowledge, to which I am not accustomed in audio gear generally.

 

Maybe I am getting oldxD

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1 hour ago, rantan said:

 

So.

Is this or something like it a solution or have I missed the point ( again)?xD

https://www.amazon.com.au/Ethernet-2-WiFi-Universal-Wireless-Adapter-GWU637/dp/B018YPWORE?th=1

 

Looks good.  A quick read reveals it uses WPS to automate the setup.  That's good, so long as your wifi router/modem supports WPS.  I do not know if it has a manual method as a backup.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, rantan said:

 

That looks exactly like what I want/need

 

Thanks.

 

That is classed as option 1 in my previous post. You can get cheaper but just remember that any separate AP will reduce speed.

 

You should and i do highly recommend you look at a mesh system b4 you even consider this.   not sure of the type of nbn connection you have,  but any mesh system will benefit at nbn speed even to the blind spots and ALL corners in your house.    

Most routers come with phone apps,  most will have QR codes for a very quick set up and all you do is setup SSID and  a password.   The phone Apps are super easy to manage. 

The other way to do it is use PoE, power over ethernet,  i was considering all these options and yet the Orbi mesh with 2 units that consist of the main unit and a satellite permanently fixed my issues and i dont even use ethernet even though i have roughed in 300m of cat4 in the house during the build is unused.  I get nbn FTTC 100/20 everywhere in the house and even down the street!

 

https://www.signalboosters.com/blog/wifi-extender-vs-mesh-network-whats-the-difference/

 

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I'm not sure if this will be irrelevant to your situation, Rantan, but I'd like to make a plea for not discounting a wired ethernet connection if this is at all possible.

 

Yes, WiFi can be fast and reliable and it's very convenient.  But IMO a wired connection is still best.  Running a cable through walls and ceilings may or may not not be feasible, but shouldn't be dismissed without careful consideration.

 

My suggestion comes after I spent years fussing with wifi connections throughout the house and shed(s) at our place.  After finally biting the bullet and installing ethernet cabling everywhere (with wifi AP's for local wifi coverage) , I wondered why I didn't do that in the first place.

 

Other than that I think a simple wifi repeater/access point or a more elaborate mesh network as has been suggested by Addicted to Music will do the job and the reference he linked to should help you decide what's best for your situation.

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I was thinking as I read through this thread that maybe you could have a lan cable wired through to the room?

I’d like to retro fit my place with lan cable connection to all rooms but it’s a tricky house for that.

Oddly there are lan sockets in each room however they weren’t wired up when the house was built ☹️

I’m using a wifi extender for upstairs but it’s not the most reliable of things and requires rebooting weekly so I’m dubious of extenders.

The point?. Not really sure but best of luck with it all rantan 👍

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On 10/6/2023 at 8:28 PM, Darryl said:

I’m using a wifi extender for upstairs but it’s not the most reliable of things and requires rebooting weekly so I’m dubious of extenders.

 


There are reasons why you need to reboot wifi, either the signal is too weak,  or someone else’s wifi signal is trespassing into your space   with  a signal that’s stronger or one of the hardware isn’t up to speed functionally.   All these can be fixed.    With win10 you can download a wifi Analyser that will map out and analyse wifi signal,  you can change channels to avoid the predatory trespassing signals.   When I started out I use to have to reboot a wifi modem becuase it keep failing to sync with the ADSL2+ lines, that was a hardware issue and was resolved by replacing the modem.    When we went nbn,  we realised that the speed to the other side upstairs dropped off to around 80% and would also drop out!  You can see it on the analyser,    this was fixed with a Orbi Mesh system.   I now never have to reboot unless there is a nbn fault which usually involves a nbn scheduled update that stuffs up some settings on there end!    Current updated Mesh systems have certified features built in to make wifi signals trespassing into your space a thing of the pass.   Like I’ve said, I have roughed in  300mtrs of Cat4 in the house and none of it is used!   When we went wifi, it’s just freedom and one less restriction to think about.  With mesh, there is no reason to be wired unless speed between workstations is important.

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Just after that post the extender broke, and I've replaced it with another.

They are both Netgear brand, but the new one hasn't needed rebooting at all yet (touch wood) and it's been a couple of weeks.

Posted
20 minutes ago, The Rock Puppy said:

Hey @rantan, have you made a decision yet?

 

I haven't got around to making a decision on the streamer as yet or even if I will buy one at all. It seems to me to be a case of quantity over quality, with what I can afford,. because to have the streamer as good as the rest of my system would cost me at least $3-5K which is untenable.

As the saying goes., "the jury is still out " on this one.

 

Thanks for asking though.

 

Cheers.

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I'm waiting too, as I have no idea, and have a Marantz NA7004 internet network/ F/M A/M DAB+ tuner coming which is suppose to be good, it has an ethernet port but no wifi.

Someone suggested Apple Extreme 5th Gen, which can be got for under $50 used, but I have no idea about this sort of thing.

All I want is to get this Marantz thing to get Radio Paradise (USA) or Mother Earth (Germany) internet radio., which are free and HQ Flac.

https://tinyurl.com/28s2ye3z

 

Cheers George

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3 hours ago, rantan said:

... as good as the rest of my system would cost me at least $3-5K which is untenable.

How about $1.6K for a Gieseler USB Reinigen with your existing laptop/PC?  It will take a $10K Innuos Pulsar to match it...

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