kal Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 AVForums Expand mobile sidebar AV Receivers & Amplifiers Is a rz50 an upgrade over my rxv2085? Also are AMC power amps any good? Thread starterFawkes01 Start date51 minutes ago Tagsamc amplifiers audio av receivers dirac home theater power power amplifier rxv2085 rz50 sound quality yamaha Unwatch ••• Fawkes01 Established Member 51 minutes ago Add bookmark #1 I have a Yamaha rxv2085, which I'm happy with. Running m&k 750thx speakers, 4 m&k atmos speakers, and sur55 as my surrounds, 2x v12 subs run with minidsp. I've been considering going for a rz50 purely for the DIRAC room correction. Is DIRAC really that much better than YPAO? Would it be an audible improvement over my yamaha? As right now the rz50 is on sale, $2700 down to $2000. As a side note, I also have the option of getting an amc power amp for nearly 50% off. If anyone has any input on whether or not it's needed or the quality of these power amps? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 The Onkyo TX-RZ50 is an upgrade to the Yamaha RX-V2085. See: https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/onkyo-tx-rz50/australia-and-asia/yamaha-rx-v2085/australia/ If you are referring to the Onkyo TX-RZ50 "Refurbished" on the Excel HiFi site here for $1999.00. See: https://excelhifi.com.au/onkyo-tx-rz50-92-channel-av-receiver-refurbished Be aware that the warranty info for the Refurb Onkyo and Pioneer AVR's on the Excel HiFi site is incorrect. See: https://excelhifi.com.au/FAQs Quote All Excel Hi-Fi product sold comes with an Australia wide manufacturer warranty as per the supplier. Should your equipment require warranty service, it must be delivered to an authorised service center, complete with your purchase receipt. Alternatively contact Excel Hi-Fi on (03) 9702 3399 or at sales@excelhifi.com.au for any assistance you may requiire. Warranty periods YAMAHA MUSIC AUSTRALIA NEW : 2 YEARS REFURBISHED : 1 YEAR ADVENTAGE NEW : 4 YEARS ADVENTAGE REFURBISHED : 2 YEARS ONKYO (AMBER TECHNOLOGY) NEW : 3 YEARS REFURBISHED : 3 YEARS PIONEER (POWERMOVE AUST.) NEW : 3 YEARS REFURBISHED : 3 YEARS Please see this https://intl.onkyo-av.com/warranty Quote In the event that this product is sold as a B-stock, Certified Factory Refurbished, or Open Box product, Premium Audio Company Australia (PAC) Pty Ltd – ABN 186 464 966 157 warrants to the original retail purchaser that this product will be free from defective materials (unless otherwise stated in the product description) and workmanship for ninety (90) days from the date of purchase, subject to the limitations below. This warranty period is not extended if PAC, an authorised retailer and/or service centre repairs or replaces the product. https://www.klipsch.com.au/b-stock-warranty-australia Quote LIMITED WARRANTY - B-STOCK/ CERTIFIED FACTORY REFURBISHED/GOODS Warranty within Australia Premium Audio Company (PAC) warrants to the original retail purchaser that products sold as “B-stock or Certified Factory Refurbished” will be free from defective materials (unless otherwise stated in the product description) and workmanship for ninety (90) days from the date of purchase, subject to the limitations below. This warranty period is not extended if we repair or replace the product. Except as limited below, if this product proves defective in either material or workmanship, PAC, at its option, will (a) repair the product, or (b) replace the product, at no charge for parts or labor. If the product model is no longer available and cannot be repaired effectively or replaced with an identical model, PAC at its sole option may replace the unit with a current model of equal or greater value. In some cases, modification to the mounting surface may be required where a new model is substituted. PAC assumes no responsibility or liability for such modification. To obtain a repair or replacement under the terms of this warranty, you must return the product to the dealer from which it was purchased with your original receipt. If the return of the product to the dealer from which it was purchased is impossible, you must contact our warranty service number at 1800 849 086 to arrange for the return of the product to us or in-field destruction of the product at our option, as well as provision of your original receipt to us. Return, repair, and replacement shipping, liability, and the cost is the responsibility of the original retail purchaser. But if the Onkyo TX-RZ50 you are referring to is a new unit, well done. Warranty info for Yamaha Refurb products is correct however. Perhaps consider a Refurb Yamaha AVR instead. https://excelhifi.com.au/index.php?route=product/category&path=376 But if you want the Onkyo TX-RZ50, you might be better to try and bargain the price down on a new unit rather that Refurb. I have a AMC power amp that I'm using with our Yamaha RX-A3080 to power the additional channels. I have no complaints. It works well and was cost effective power amp. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 On 23/05/2023 at 11:01 PM, kal said: Is DIRAC really that much better than YPAO? Would it be an audible improvement over my yamaha? Undoubtedly, Dirac Live is better than YPAO and you will hear it. The sound stage is better, with more precise sound placement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POV Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 On 13/7/2023 at 2:35 PM, Snoopy8 said: Undoubtedly, Dirac Live is better than YPAO and you will hear it. The sound stage is better, with more precise sound placement. You are underplaying it here! DIRAC (particularly with full version) when done properly is orders of magnitude better than YPAO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaloum Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I too can rave about the benefits of Dirac.... although in my case, I opted for a near relative from the family of Onkyo - the Integra DRX 3.4. I will mention (and reviews elsewhere have also covered this) - the internal power amps are best suited to easy to drive 8ohm speakers - they can get into trouble with 4ohm speakers - especially where the speakers have impedances below 3ohm. So if you have hard to drive speakers - an external power amp for the fronts can magically improve the sound - much less power is required for the rest of the speakers, and in my case, taking L & R load off the AVR cleaned up the sound wonderfully. My AVR is driving a 5.1.4 setup with front L/R being driven off an external power amp (connected to the pre-outs). But Dirac was the thing that made the biggest difference improving things off my previous setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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