Lenehan Audio Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Hi Guys yes I know I'm dragging the chain NoDoubt ! this latest Magnesium Loudspeaker is the first truly new design since the introduction of the ML series which all used the Peerless Nomex Bass drivers . Why did I settle for the Nomex Drivers ( Carbon Fiber Impregnated synthetic paper ) Well because they sounded like Paper in the Midrange yet had a bass response like a Polypropelene type driver !! Best of both worlds at the time , and indeed for 15years after starting with these drivers I could find nothing better . I had tried Ceramic ! Aluminium and various combinations of synthetic and composite compounds yet nothing would touch the Nomex Peerless drivers. Ok along comes the Seas Magnesium cone bass drivers !! So after speaking with Seas I decided to try them . After around 5/6months of development work we had a speaker which was truly superior to any of my earlier speakers ML1 ! ML2 ! ML5 . We were virtually compelled to manufacture this speaker until all the work caved in as Seas had decided to stop manufacturing the driver because of some Corrosive issues . Some new drivers were released which incorporated a Graphene coated cone which we immediately ordered for prototyping . Big problems arose initially with the Crossover design which slowed thing up significantly . We were at nearly 2 years of design work here with over 1500 hours of dedicated design work. After consulting on various calls with the designer in Norway we were able to come up with a rather radical crossover circuit utilising only 2 reactive components and one resistive component in the signal path. The Magnesium Diaphragm breakup mode EQ circuit is however we feel quite innovative. The enclosure is solid Hardwood in 18mm and 40mm thicknesses ! internal bracing is solid steel plating in various thicknesses (from 4mm to 8mm thick ) Cross Bracing is accomplished using Solid Cast Iron rod and Silicone filled Copper tubing . This results in the least enclosure energy storage we have ever measured or heard. We are also including our latest 3HZ IsoForm Loudspeaker stands which weigh 35kgs each ( the speakers are also 35kgs each so 70 kg total per side ) Price is as follows Magnesium Limited Loudspeakers $14,500 per Pair 3HZ IsoForm Stands $2,500 per Pair . We are in full manufacturing process now so should have loudspeakers available for shipping within a matter of 4/6 weeks . I will attach a pic of the production prototypes. The website will also be updated with the new Loudspeaker soon . You can contact me right here or by email at mike@lenehanaudio.com.au or simply ring me directly on 0418 765726. Regards Mike Lenehan LenehanAudio I have never heard a loudspeaker that has this level of reality or resolution with a total lack or brightness so far Ohh yeah a 30hz bottom end Best Regards Mike Lenehan 14 4
Assisi Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Hi Mike, Good to read the write up. Pleasing to see you are using solid timber. The weight is less than the ML2 Ltds. What is the timber? Why steel and not copper internally? John 1
Lenehan Audio Posted April 25, 2023 Author Posted April 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, Assisi said: Hi Mike, Good to read the write up. Pleasing to see you are using solid timber. The weight is less than the ML2 Ltds. What is the timber? Why steel and not copper internally? John Hi John we are using Merbau Hardwood ! the densest timber we could find ! Copper worked best with the HD3 enclosures we used with the ML2 Limited speakers because of the higher resonant frequency of the HD3 . The copper had a lower FS than the steel so the combination produced better damping . The overall enclosure energy storage is lower . Regards Mike 1
Warwick Robson Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 G'day all. I had the privilege of being the first person (other than Mike himself, his brother and his son) to see and listen to the new Magnesium Limited speakers. I have a pair of ML2 reference speakers that I have cherished for the last 5 or so years. I naturally assumed, like many other Mike Lenehan fans, that I would never have to think about upgrading them because they were, and still are an awesome speaker that has been almost impossible to beat. That is until now. Mike invited me to his place to listen to the speakers, explaining the crossovers, the drivers, the cabinetry etc. The crispness and clarity was just amazing and the bass was unbelievable. What did I do? I put a deposit on them. Beautiful looking speakers with a quality of sound that I've never heard before. Are they worth waiting for? Bloody oath they are. The speakers that Mike put on here 15 hours ago will be sent to me in a couple of weeks. I can't wait. Cheers Warwick. 4
Quigzy Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) @Warwick Robson You lucky duck getting to listen to them, I bet they're amazing. So would you say these match the staging of floorstanding speakers? I have floorstanders with Lyngdorf TDAI 3400 and two REL S812 subs in stereo (not that they need it, but it does open the soundstage up further). Would these new Lenehans with 2 subs be a better solution? Edited April 29, 2023 by Quigzy 1
Jehuty Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 On 25/04/2023 at 6:02 PM, Lenehan Audio said: On 25/04/2023 at 6:02 PM, Lenehan Audio said: @muon* Your next speakers, suit your taste for sure, look at that beautiful timber! 2
muon* Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 Yes they would be amazing I'm sure, but alas.... not for me. 1
075Congo Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 The 3HZ Isoform stands sound very interesting.......lots of development time went into their creation I'll bet. Congrats Mick
MattyW Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 These look lovely. I bet they sound even better. If I hadn’t gotten itchy feet and commissioned a custom build of 2x refrigerator sized cabinets these would have been right up my alley.
Lenehan Audio Posted May 2, 2023 Author Posted May 2, 2023 On 29/04/2023 at 5:31 PM, Quigzy said: @Warwick Robson You lucky duck getting to listen to them, I bet they're amazing. So would you say these match the staging of floorstanding speakers? I have floorstanders with Lyngdorf TDAI 3400 and two REL S812 subs in stereo (not that they need it, but it does open the soundstage up further). Would these new Lenehans with 2 subs be a better solution? Hi Quigzy Floorstanders cannot match the soundstaging of a standmount ! WHY Ok the reason is that the baffle of any loudspeaker reflects forward a time delayed distorted energy . The energy deflected forward has to do with the surface area and dimensions of the baffle face . The larger the baffle the lower the frequencies that are reflected forward . This is why the Magnesium Ltd has a small front baffle area . The ultimate soundstaging loudspeaker would be a driver that was hanging from a piece of string . If you want to hear absolutely State Of The Art sound staging > then this is the speaker. The better the room of course the better the soundstaging as well . If you want to hear your room and system disappear and just be left with a 3 Dimensional picture of the original performance , this is the best speaker I have ever heard . There is only one Loudspeaker I have heard that I feel may have been in the ballpark with our earlier ML2 Speaker , that is the Vivid G3 Giya . But they were $100,000 per pair . I was at the time unable to do a direct comparison with the ML2 as they were in separate systems . The Magnesium Ltd is however significantly ahead of our earlier ML2. What size room do you have Quigzy ? If its not a huge room I dont believe you will need a sub at all Regards Mike Lenehan 1
Quigzy Posted May 2, 2023 Posted May 2, 2023 58 minutes ago, Lenehan Audio said: What size room do you have Quigzy ? If its not a huge room I dont believe you will need a sub at all That is great news, as I don't particularly like having large floorstanders in my loungeroom. My room isn't small, it's about 8 mtrs wide by 14 mtrs long with 9 ft ceilings, so I have my existing speakers about 1.5 metres from front and side walls now and listen at 3 mtr triangle, my listening point is about 5 mtrs into the room (so first third of room, with plenty of space behind me). I would hope this is an ok room, I have 2" panels around the walls with prints on them, not overly done but tightens up the room and Prime Acoustic bass traps in 3 of the corners except with this main room joins into the doorway to kitchen, we are open plan living space. The bass and vocals were a bit smeary without the bass traps and Lyngdorf correction, so put them back and it tightened up somewhat.
Quigzy Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 @Lenehan Audio will the titanium specials have more height of the virtual sound stage than floor standers also? As I heard that someone said the ML2's had a very nice floating soundstage a couple of fee above the top of them, true to the height of the singer or stage their on. Is this the kind of magical presentation the magnesium special offer also? 1
Lenehan Audio Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Quigzy said: @Lenehan Audio will the titanium specials have more height of the virtual sound stage than floor standers also? As I heard that someone said the ML2's had a very nice floating soundstage a couple of fee above the top of them, true to the height of the singer or stage their on. Is this the kind of magical presentation the magnesium special offer also? Hi Quigzy Soundstage height of the new magnesium is the same as the ML2 ! however the soundstage itself is significantly superior. For instance one of my reference recordings is Harry Belafonte live at Carnegie Hall !! The 3D of Carnegie Hall is truly the best I have heard . soundstage also extends significantly wider than the positioning of the speaker placement. so if you have them 3m apart image width will be around 5 to 6m . pure resolution with zero brightness or glare is their presentation . regards. Mike Lenehan LenehanAudio 3 1
Simon de Pass Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Has anyone heard these bad boys yet or even better taken ownership of a pair??
awayward Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Simon de Pass said: Has anyone heard these bad boys yet or even better taken ownership of a pair?? Looks like there is one out in the wild! 2
Lenehan Audio Posted June 3, 2023 Author Posted June 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Simon de Pass said: Has anyone heard these bad boys yet or even better taken ownership of a pair?? Hi Simon. Yes Warwick Robson owns the first pair ! He did a post here on the 26th April . three more pairs have been sold since ! We’re waiting on a heap of parts from overseas to build more speakers ! We will have them in about 10days so all ahead then . Regards Mike Lenehan LenehanAudio 1 1
Warwick Robson Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 G'day Simon. Yes, I was the first to see the speakers, listen to the speakers and to buy a pair of the Lenehan Magnesium Limited speakers. I used to have a pair of ML2 reference which I thought I would never get rid of because they were so good. But when I heard the new magnesium limiteds, I was blown away. The clarity was incredible and the bass was fantastic. Music that I had played countless times before suddenly opened up. These speakers are unbelievable. No more Rel T9 sub woofer for me, I no longer need it. I certainly recommend these speakers to anyone who wants to hear unbelievable sound from their system. Cheers Warwick. 1 1
Simon de Pass Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Can you post a video playing some tunes Warwick? 1
Quigzy Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Yeah would love to see them in action and also know if they stand up against large floorstanders like Duntech's and so on. So hard to find anything in depth reviews on these new speakers.
Lenehan Audio Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 You guys on Stereonet are the first to hear about the new Magnesium speakers ! We’ve only sold three pair so far to very good customers. Accumulating all the parts and building procedures is quite a task believe me. it may be another month or so before we can get a pair out for review. mill attach a couple of pics 4 5 1
Quigzy Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Lenehan Audio said: it may be another month or so before we can get a pair out for review. Maybe you could hit up one of your very good customers to do some in-depth reviews (interview from one of your team), feedback, videos for us and post it in here for us to read, so we can get even more excited about the intricacies of these beautiful looking masterpieces, and we will also become your very good customers Appreciate everything your do for us and all your awesome efforts in making these new exciting speakers!
MattyW Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Damn, the pictures of these new speakers have me salivating.... 1
Warwick Robson Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Yeah MattyW, they're absolutely stunning, but wait until you hear them. 1
Vin rouge Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 Mike, Could I please ask whether you considered other dense hardwoods like Jarrah, Turpentine, Grey Box or Ironbark? Or whether people could special order in different ones? I have longed for a set of your stand mount speakers for many years and these sound like the ones to get but must admit I am not the biggest fan of Merbau. Thanks David.
Assisi Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Vin rouge said: Mike, Could I please ask whether you considered other dense hardwoods like Jarrah, Turpentine, Grey Box or Ironbark? Or whether people could special order in different ones? I have longed for a set of your stand mount speakers for many years and these sound like the ones to get but must admit I am not the biggest fan of Merbau. Thanks David. When Mike made my pair of ML2 LTDs I requested Brush Box for the enclosures. The timber was to match the parquetry flooring. The result was very pleasing. Since the speakers were made I have learnt a little more about Australian timbers. With what I know now about timbers, I would now request Spotted Gum (Corymbia maculata). A plantation timber, easy to source, very dense with very beautiful grain colours and lights. I now have a dining room table and chairs made out Spotted Gum. It is used for flooring, axe and shovel handles etc. The table at this link includes various Australian Timbers https://itslimited.com.au/docs/AustralianHardwoodSpeciesGuide.pdf John 6
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