brenden Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I thought I would take the opportunity to alert you guys to unscrupulous deals on Ebay purporting to sell UPOCC silver wire .The sellers in question on Ebay are from Taiwan . I recieved an email from the manufacturers who confirmed the wire is fake .It is their policy to only sell teflon coated wire ,and not the bare wire being offered on Ebay . If you just google UPOCC silver wire ,you will see which ones . There are lots of scams out there ,so if it doesnt smell right ,dig around a bit . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nada Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 but its certified to be genuine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Pays to find a local trusted source. Edit: Grammar Edited October 28, 2013 by ortofun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenden Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Yeah Nada ,and I can tell you they are annoyed ,and action is being taken I am a bit disappointed ,as I want bare wire .They wont sell it unfortunately . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Yeah, I have never seen the Neotech bare. I so like the Teflon insulated stuff, but I guess you want to have it bare? or use a different dielectric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once was an audiophile Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Pay to find a local trusted source. Ortofun wtf have you lost data over the fone line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) He was overdue for retirement. Edit: That's the official line, the truth is he made an ass of himself once or twice too often so had to go............but don't tel him. Edited October 28, 2013 by ortofun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jventer Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I have real UPOCC silver wire for you - but it is not bare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicprObe Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 It will only tarnish if it's bare anyway. Thanks for the warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gmdb Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Any idea what quality the bare stuff is? If it's still reasonably pure e.g 6 nines or 4 nines (99.99%) - Even if it's not UP or OCC, it is good for audio, even if the seller is less than honest in his advertising. Clear Day cables in the US use 4 nines silver in their cables which have excellent reviews. A US seller on Ebay also advertises Silver OCC wire but it's only when you read the description that you find it's silver-plated copper. BTW - 4 nines silver wire can usually be purchased from jewellery wholesalers at an okay price, even in Australia. It's classed as Fine Silver - as opposed to Sterling Silver, which is around 95% silver and 5% copper and - oddly - less conductive than copper. Disclaimer. I sell the Teflon coated UPOCC from a reputable source (mostly copper) so I tend to keep an eye on what else is around. Thanks for the heads-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Listener Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I buy from here:- https://www.aemetal.com.au/Webstore/p-1590-fine-silver-round-wire-10mm-9999-high-purity.aspx Not certified UPOCC, but it is Australian, genuine and about the same price. If you ask nicely they will soft anneal it for you as well. Or ask, it may be soft annealed already [dementia setting in I'm afraid]. For speaker wire you could also try this:- https://www.aemetal.com.au/Webstore/c-231-fine-silver-rectangular-strip.aspx Support your local silver mine I say! Steven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenden Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hi gmbd. I tried the silver but the quality is low ,both from feel and sound quality . Compared to soft annealed silver it is springy and stiff indicating it is not annealed .It is also brittle and continually breaks . From a sound quality perspective it sounds bright and lacks warmth and liquidity unlike good quality annealed soft silver . Their Mundorf silver gold wire appears to be the exact same wire ,and sounds identical. I would not recommend this wire if you want great sound . Cheers Brenden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gmdb Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Thanks, guys. I knew AE did round wire, but the rectangular strips look very interesting. Nice prices too. cheers Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 but its certified to be genuine: Dr Ohno.....his name made me laugh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoggieHowser Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I used homegrown audio cables for a while and they are pretty good sounding in my system. The ones I used had 8 or 16 multi strand conductors. Haven't tried their bare wires before tho. http://www.homegrownaudio.com/bulk-silver-audio-wire/ Not quite sure what 74 bucks gets you of the 10 gauge stuff tho? No mention of length. By the foot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agisthos Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 You would have to be silly to buy wire on ebay from an asian vendor, and think it really was genuine Mundorf or Neotech. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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