New Nikon to rival A7/A7R Sony's? Nikon post teaser video

[Tweaky]

Looks like Nikon were ready for Sony's release of the A7 / A7R.

 

They posted this teaser trailer a couple of days ago, it's the first of 4 clips

 

A lot of Nikon watchers are speculating that it will be a mirrorless full frame camera, but built similarly to the old FM, which Nikon fans have been asking for for years.

I suppose they are guessing at that from the only words spoken in the clip "It's in my hands again".

 

This is going to be very interesting to see what they have come up with.

I just hope the design of whatever it is, hasn't been rushed to market without full testing / fine tuning to stem off possible lost sales to Sony's new full frame DSLR's.

 

Last thing Nikon needs is another D800 focusing issue due to software like it had on release, or the even more recent D600 oil spots on the sensor.

 

 

EDIT:

I just found this above head shot taken at time of filming this clip

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Looks a lot like a Nikon FM sized camera to me.

This site reckons it's going to be called a Nikon DF.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/nikon-df-ad/

Edited October 27, 2013 by Tweaky

[Vortexjah]

Interesting. Love the colours in that ad .

[Audiobugged]

OMG.

Been dabbling big time with mirrorless over the last year after selling by d700 and d200 bodies....

Have been reluctant to go d800 due to size but perhaps there's finally the GOD of Nikon has answered the prayers of my unused Nikon lens collection....

Please let this be true.

[Tweaky]

Yeah the suspense is killing me as well.

 

I "WAS" looking at getting one of the new Sony's, but I had a chance a few days ago, thanks to a friend who works for Sony, to hold one in my hand, and well .... after about two or three minutes I knew it just wasn't for me.

 

It seems well built at first, but I have my doubts about just how rugged it would be long term in the kind of situations it would find itself in if I were to own it, it also feels like a bit of toy compared to a D800.

Call me old fashioned, but I just like where everything just falls where it should be in your hands on Nikon's higher end cameras.

It's what I'm used to, as I've been using them since the 70's

 

I could see the Sony being a big seller to photographers 15 to 20 years younger than myself though, as others of that age bracket  trying the A7 out were all smitten by it

 

You should try a D800 fitted with a DK-17m Magnifying Finder and rubber eye cup from Hoodsman.

http://www.robertotoole.com/2012/06/07/nikon-dk-17m/

It makes it so easy to focus old manual Nikon lenses with modern Nikon's not fitted with a Fresnel focusing screen.

[Definite purchase from USA online, as it's US$37 V's  the totally ridiculous price of AUS $139]

 

The older manual focus lenses are usually smaller and better built [than Nikons newest AF lenses], so once put on a D800 they don't make the D800 seem quite as large as it would fitted with AF models of the same focal length.

I'm talking about 20 / 24 / 28 / 50 / 85 primes, and anything below 50mm you really don't need AF anyway.

[Tweaky]

The best look at the new camera yet.

 

I think it's released  on Nov 5th going by the video, or it could be yet another teaser

[Guest JohnA]

have read a few issues about the sony a7, hopefully sony can fix them with a firmware upgrade.

 

Its great to see some of these smaller bodies now with full frame.Even though i have lost some interest in photography, i still like to keep up with whats going on, so keen to see what nikon brings out.

[Tweaky]

Amazon put the details of the new Nikon up early, then promptly took them down again.

It's a 16.2mp FX. model

 

Seems the new camera will not be cheap, Amazon has [had] it listed at US $2750.

http://petapixel.com/2013/11/04/amazon-accidentally-publishes-nikon-df-page-reveals-2750-price-tag-body/

 

Here's some really good shots of what the DF looks like.

http://nikonrumors.com/2013/11/04/this-is-the-nikon-df.aspx/

 

Matt Granger [AKA] The NIKON GUY posted this spoof YouTube video of Nikon's teasers a few days ago.

Edited November 5, 2013 by Tweaky

[Audiobugged]

16 mp, larger than the sony twins and $3k?!?

I think they may well have lost the plot...

If only they'd gone d610 sensor, 30% smaller and closer to $2k, they'd have a massive hit! At the moment it will likely appeal to the retro niche geek crowd. Leica-man will turn their noses up as will the pros. Sigh.

[betty boop]

if you guys ae talking about the just announced nikon Df then its nothing like the sony's the sonys are mirroless compacts the nikon is still a traditional DSLR intact quite traditional with retro look feel.

 

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-df

 

AB as you suggest, and as per this article too, the 610 is a lot cheaper and with a lot more features. e.g. for some reason they left video capability of the df. probably a sticking point for many I suspect ! 

 

http://www.cnet.com.au/nikon-df-339345876.htm?feed=rss

 

still will appeal to those looking for the retro feel I guess and they'll still pay the extra for it

Edited November 5, 2013 by :) al

[Guest JohnA]

The Df will be available in Australia from 28 November. Pricing is at dealer discretion,

 

that should be interesting

 

in the US it is $2750 as body only,

[My Rantz]

The Df would make a nice toy for some of the old timers, but too retro for me. And thanks Tweaky, I just ordered the DK-17m for my D800e

 

http://mynikonlife.com.au/gear/digital-slr-cameras/df%20?utm_source=november-edm&utm_medium=edm&utm_campaign=d4&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=November+EDM+Nikon+D4&utm_content=November+EDM+Nikon+D4+CID_04555491c750d80bf7779a685cab9b87&utm_source=Monthly%20EDM&utm_term=I%20AM%20PURE%20PHOTOGRAPHY

Edited November 5, 2013 by My Rantz

[Sir Triode]

Can you believe some Canon owning idiots are bemoaning the lack of video on the Df?

 

http://www.eoshd.com/content/11454/nikon-df

 

Trust a Canon user to totally miss the point of the camera.

[betty boop]

Can you believe some Canon owning idiots are bemoaning the lack of video on the Df?

http://www.eoshd.com/content/11454/nikon-df

Trust a Canon user to totally miss the point of the camera.

Well it is a bit silly when it's based on the d600 & video capability is there. But nikon have disabled it. Another case of form over function in that case

[murrmax]

 

 

Can you believe some Canon owning idiots are bemoaning the lack of video on the Df?

 

I appreciate the purist approach, perhaps at half the price, however I actually think the Sony is a nicer cleaner design with a much better form factor,  kinda looks like the DFs been on a burger diet since the F days..so not sure how much of a retro feel will resonate in actual use, looks a little big to me. 

[Tweaky]

Apparently because of the choice of battery used in the DF, it doesn't have enough power to do video for any length of time, so that's why it was dropped.

 

I'm not impressed with the DF to be honest, I don't think many people are, even the die hardiest of Nikon fan boys...... I can't see it remaining in production for any length of time as I doubt the demand wil be there.

 

I suppose it's because it's made in Japan , not China, that is priced as much as it is.

 

You know what I think would be a absolute huge winner of a camera design for Nikon?, or any third party for that matter

Well it's not even a camera design, it would be a camera mod for a past classic.

 

Make a digital back with a sensor embedded so it sits where the film plane would be, for any of the old F2 models [the backs are fully removable anyway, they had to be to fit the 250 shot roll film backs], have the electronics embedded in the F2's removable photomic heads, and have no auto focus.

 

Old school, and retro fit able

[Sir Triode]

A retrofit-able back would be ideal but the problem is that they would have to make a back for every mechanical and electromechanical body they have made as every one of those past cameras are of a different size and hence had a different shaped back.

 

Also it would be a support nightmare for them and also eat into their current camera market.

[Sir Triode]

Well it is a bit silly when it's based on the d600 & video capability is there. But nikon have disabled it. Another case of form over function in that case

 

It actually uses the sensor from the D4 so I don't think it is based entirely on the D600. Besides, putting video on this sort of camera is defeating the sole purpose of it. i.e. going back to the basics of photography. 

As it is, it already had too many functions.

[betty boop]

It actually uses the sensor from the D4 so I don't think it is based entirely on the D600. Besides, putting video on this sort of camera is defeating the sole purpose of it. i.e. going back to the basics of photography. 

As it is, it already had too many functions.

 

never mind ! am sure people will buy it regardless

Edited November 6, 2013 by :) al

[Tweaky]

A retrofit-able back would be ideal but the problem is that they would have to make a back for every mechanical and electromechanical body they have made as every one of those past cameras are of a different size and hence had a different shaped back.

 

Also it would be a support nightmare for them and also eat into their current camera market.

 

Yeah, I doubt Nikon would ever consider it, but some third party could ..... maybe a possible Kick-start candidate [?]

I just meant making a retro fit digital back for the most likely candidate camera, that being a F2, F2A, F2AS, F2ASB which are all the same body/back [no differences in size or how the backs attach to the body], the only difference between them was the gradual changes made to the removable photomic heads metering, and the inclusion of showing the current aperture in the viewfinder when AIS lenses came out.

 

There must easily be hundreds of thousands out there in good working order, I mean they were made from 1971 to 1981 when the F3 came out.

I think the old F's would be too old to consider, and the F3 / F4 changes in body/back from the F2 wouldn't make it economically viable.

 

I suppose you could use the fitted backs, just remove the pressure plate that held the film, design something in C.A.D and make a sensor holder with a 3D printer.

Modify a MD11 motor drive to take a rechargeable lithium battery [or put one where the 35mm film cassette would normally be], and it would still leave space for modern electronics, same if you took the light meter and battery compartment out of the photomic head and replaced it with modern equivalent.

Plenty of options to work with if somebody thought it through to a workable design.

Edited November 7, 2013 by Tweaky