Axl Posted November 4, 2022 Author Share Posted November 4, 2022 So finally I ended up with a used Kallax. I don't need to modify it yet. Thanks for the suggestions. I will soon move all my Vinyls here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
075Congo Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Looks excellent and lots of vinyl storage! Secondhand too.....well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Axl said: So finally I ended up with a used Kallax. I don't need to modify it yet. Thanks for the suggestions. I will soon move all my Vinyls here. Just be aware you have your Kallax set up the wrong way! Yes, I know you wanted it on its side - to act as a shelf - but the top (and bottom) panels are supposed to overlap the side panels ... not butt up against the side panels the way you have them. This means the top panel is supported at each end by the dowels inside the join ... instead of being supported by the side panels. But this is not so much of a problem if you keep the top shelf lightly loaded - as you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tremain Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 hours ago, andyr said: Just be aware you have your Kallax set up the wrong way! Yes, I know you wanted it on its side - to act as a shelf - but the top (and bottom) panels are supposed to overlap the side panels ... not butt up against the side panels the way you have them. This means the top panel is supported at each end by the dowels inside the join ... instead of being supported by the side panels. But this is not so much of a problem if you keep the top shelf lightly loaded - as you have it. Technicaly you would be sort of correct andyr although downward resonance transmission would be little different via the dowled joints. On the other hand gains in stability and being able to fit 2 items on the top. So outway other considerations. It seems clear the designer has the construction wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Just now, Richard Tremain said: Technicaly you would be sort of correct andyr although downward resonance transmission would be little different via the dowled joints. On the other hand gains in stability and being able to fit 2 items on the top. So outway other considerations. It seems clear the designer has the construction wrong. I wasn't talking about "downward resonance transmission", RT ... I was talking about mechanical strength. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tremain Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, andyr said: I wasn't talking about "downward resonance transmission", RT ... I was talking about mechanical strength. Sure thing andyr but it looks pretty strong enough to me with all the central supports so i preferred to focus on the aspects that relate to how the design affects the sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
075Congo Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 You could buy a set of wheels from Bunnings to lift your KALLAX off the carpet............or not! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim 2 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Axl said: So finally I ended up with a used Kallax. I don't need to modify it yet. Thanks for the suggestions. I will soon move all my Vinyls here. Looks good, should work well for your setup. Glad that you followed up with a post and photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggyGun Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 4/11/2022 at 5:44 AM, andyr said: Just be aware you have your Kallax set up the wrong way! Their Assembly Instructions show that the unit can be used either way. DG… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 How very interesting, DG. But do IKEA realise the weight of vinyl that some Kallax buyers put into their units? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenikoy Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) As a transient apartment dweller I've "heavily invested" in the finest Kallax for my audio needs The genius and downfall of Kallax is that its engineering balances multi usability and minimising material useage (saving production and shipping costs). Generally, if a part is supplied it is for a very good reason and if the instructions say do it this way, then do it that way. So here are my customisations and experiences! Initially I completely removed A to open up the space to allow components to fit, but found that B was sagging down in the middle (with a much lighter turntable at the time). Relocating A slightly (drilled new dowell holes) strengthened the unit up again. Also found that placing the supplied felt pads (see below) at each corner initiated a sag at C, so I also added felt pads centrally to correct that. The 4x1 unit is being used horizontally instead of the designed vertical. When I customised this one I moved the now structural panel from X to Y (dowells drilled) to suit my use. At Z doubled felt pads are required to prevent sagging. This unit is great for playing around with components and also can store bits and bobs. Mounting the wheels revealed how little "meat" there is in the outside panels. Probably only 2/4 mounting screws found any acceptable material to screw into. Gluing on some timber base mounts might help. No customistion here, I just don't see 3x4s being used that often. Fitted my available wall and floor space perfectly. Edited November 5, 2022 by zenikoy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tremain Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 FURTHER REFLECTION-I do not know what a Kallax is?? On checking it is IKEA their site shows the $189 unit in sideways use supporting a TV. I do not like where this is going and if it is made like the LACK Table of compressed paper I'M out of here! The weight will tell you if it is very heavy it is MDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crankit Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 26 minutes ago, Richard Tremain said: FURTHER REFLECTION-I do not know what a Kallax is?? On checking it is IKEA their site shows the $189 unit in sideways use supporting a TV. I do not like where this is going and if it is made like the LACK Table of compressed paper I'M out of here! The weight will tell you if it is very heavy it is MDF. Compressed fibre board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Richard Tremain said: I do not like where this is going and if it is made like the LACK Table of compressed paper I'M out of here! 1 hour ago, crankit said: Compressed fibre board aka 'compressed paper'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivianbl Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 30/10/2022 at 1:57 PM, Richard Tremain said: Ikeas Lack Tables have been constructed differently over the years from the poor sounding original plastic ones to the current absolutely atrocious sounding ones made from compressed paper, do not go there.! Like all things audio, best to try out and hear. I replaced my expensive rack with stacked Lack tables about 15 years ago and have continued with that. Think I bought them for about $10 at the time and about $15 about 3 years ago. Have them on spikes and also use whites anti vibration pads under the spike shoes. More recently added further isolation using Agora megahexa and Apptlig butcher blocks on top of the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 05/11/2022 at 9:10 PM, zenikoy said: As a transient apartment dweller I've "heavily invested" in the finest Kallax for my audio needs The genius and downfall of Kallax is that its engineering balances multi usability and minimising material useage (saving production and shipping costs). Generally, if a part is supplied it is for a very good reason and if the instructions say do it this way, then do it that way. So here are my customisations and experiences! You obviously have less OCD than I do! Given I wanted to use a 1x4 on its side - to provide a nice shelf for my TV - I would've put the 2x2 next it ... the same way round. (IE. not with the top plate overlapping the sides! ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenikoy Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, andyr said: You obviously have less OCD than I do! Given I wanted to use a 1x4 on its side - to provide a nice shelf for my TV - I would've put the 2x2 next it ... the same way round. (IE. not with the top plate overlapping the sides! ) The 2x2 has about 35kg sitting on the top panel so structural strength trumps OCD I thought the most triggering items for OCD SNAers would have been the cabling mess, "imaging destroying" items between the speakers and the pot plants on the speakers (vinyl wrap). If I were a sadist I would add a photo of the rear cable carnage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tremain Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 MDF Medium Density Fiber Board also available as HDF High Density Fiber Board. Compressed fiber is not a specification! The weight if VERY HEAVY tells you it is not Paper no user has made comment on this so it is unresolved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tremain Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I cut the Lack Table open the paper was still in paper form. And the sound quality was much like you would get from putting your equipment on a cardboard box. At $189 very cheap! Kallix is another word for "Recycled Compressed Paper" R.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wikeeboy Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Is filling one of these with records a bad idea? https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/kallax-shelving-unit-white-10353586/ If it is too much weight for this item, what is the largest Kallax you'd go for to store your vinyl? 4x4, 2x4, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
075Congo Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 IKEA sell hardware accessories to secure their products to the wall. I would be inclined to use multiples of the 2 by 2 Kallaxes and screw them together. once again IKEA sells all the hardware to do this. Bunning now sell a copy of the Kallax but their quality is aweful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wikeeboy Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, 075Congo said: IKEA sell hardware accessories to secure their products to the wall. I would be inclined to use multiples of the 2 by 2 Kallaxes and screw them together. once again IKEA sells all the hardware to do this. Bunning now sell a copy of the Kallax but their quality is aweful. You'd be so conservative to do multiple 2x2's? I could do 3 x 2x4's. I've filled a 4x4 before with no issue, a little nervous about the 5x5 though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
075Congo Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 But they are made of particle board and MDF and they look OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I would be concerned the weight of the records will sag the shelves. This would be less of a problem when they were made with laminated chipboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, wikeeboy said: Is filling one of these with records a bad idea? https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/kallax-shelving-unit-white-10353586/ If it is too much weight for this item, what is the largest Kallax you'd go for to store your vinyl? 4x4, 2x4, etc? I’ve had them chock full of records for years and never had an issue. I’ve just replaced my old 4 x2 and now have a 4 x 3 and it’s sturdy as you could want. Lots of people use them for vinyl storage. My old one used to be chock full of cookbooks that are extremely heavy and that didn’t bother it either. First bought in 2009 and is still looking the same today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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