Guest Peter the Greek Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Warning - SPOILERS Ok, so after years and years of almost physical abuse from my best mate and more recently a guy at work, I relented and have just finished watching Battlestar Galactica....that's right, all 80 god damn episodes. You can see I am going to upset a few people here. I thought I was fanatical about Star Wars as a kid, I always thought Treckies where the worst kind, but gee the Battlestar fans I meet are so obsessive about it, unlike anything I have ever experienced! I thought the series was ok, you don't sit through that many hours of your life for nothing. But really, I don't understand the hype (hot Cylon chick aside, and to be frank, not my "type"). Its poorly produced, terribly written, appalling acting (a few rare exceptions), and what's with the religious undertones? If they had of kept it to "machines chasing humans across the galaxy" that would have been ok, but all this "prophecy, fate, god, destiny" BS....please Oh and I wanted to smack Baltar in the face from minute one, they didn't need to labour the point as to how much of a "fracking idiot" he is for close to two whole seasons. Why wasn't he killed in the end? its horse manure! Oh and yeah, lets just destroy all of our technology at the end! please, did the 30 odd thousand people left forget they had invented the wheel already! total rubbish. Anyhow, greatly disappointed. If you've not seen it, don't, its not worth the investment.
twwen2 Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Anyhow, greatly disappointed. If you've not seen it, don't, its not worth the investment. Lol. BSG has issues across the seasons with scripting, writing and acting quality; I remember being clearly frustrated at certain points. However, I can't remember another TV series where I finished the finale and felt so emotional. And at the end of the day that's what I'm looking for; if the show can draw me in and elicit an emotional response, it's done it's job. As an end-to-end experience (and coming from a sci-fi fan), I rate BSG very highly.
New Sensations Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Warning - SPOILERS Ok, so after years and years of almost physical abuse from my best mate and more recently a guy at work, I relented and have just finished watching Battlestar Galactica....that's right, all 80 god damn episodes. You can see I am going to upset a few people here. I thought I was fanatical about Star Wars as a kid, I always thought Treckies where the worst kind, but gee the Battlestar fans I meet are so obsessive about it, unlike anything I have ever experienced! I thought the series was ok, you don't sit through that many hours of your life for nothing. But really, I don't understand the hype (hot Cylon chick aside, and to be frank, not my "type"). Its poorly produced, terribly written, appalling acting (a few rare exceptions), and what's with the religious undertones? If they had of kept it to "machines chasing humans across the galaxy" that would have been ok, but all this "prophecy, fate, god, destiny" BS....please Oh and I wanted to smack Baltar in the face from minute one, they didn't need to labour the point as to how much of a "fracking idiot" he is for close to two whole seasons. Why wasn't he killed in the end? its horse manure! Oh and yeah, lets just destroy all of our technology at the end! please, did the 30 odd thousand people left forget they had invented the wheel already! total rubbish. Anyhow, greatly disappointed. If you've not seen it, don't, its not worth the investment. Count me in as a +1 here. I stopped watching after 4 eps.
Guest Peter the Greek Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Count me in as a +1 here. I stopped watching after 4 eps. Smart, real smart.....what a waste of time, I should have read an acoustics book instead
Janjuggler Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Hi I thought from the post heading that it may have been the late 1970's series with Lorne Greene, which was amusing, and only 20 odd episodes, but probably by current cinematic standards would lack but most could pass as actors.... JJ
Luc Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I'm an eachway bet man here, I watched BSG all of it but I'll own up to watching it entirely on my computer and I clicked and dragged through all the opening scenes of each episode and I had subtitles running and I just speed read it /watch it, to be truthful. I backtracked on a few episodes and I was also guided by online fan sites about the good bits the boring bits the great bits...and there were equal amounts of both. John Darko at 4 episodes in and stopping, actually precludes himself from commenting on an entire series as it's a bit like "I watched the start of the race but never saw the finish..." but his comment is good for the first four episodes: It's a personnel taste thing isn't it after all. I enjoyed many parts of it and the overall premise which was that man had lost and the bad guys had won was a ripper and 'man' was constantly on the back foot. The series lived and died by it's scriptwriters and directors and these changed through the seasons but were bought back into the original writing team near the final series and it showed, there was some very good acting and tight dialogue there and pathos. The last episode where 'Home' was arrived at was a really poor let down and it tarnished the preceding episodes and build up , the denouement was let down by it terribly...but the plug had already been pulled by the Network so it was a fait accompli. Sci-Fi fans clutch at straws most of the time for their entertainment because it's rare that you can leave the cliché driven genre guidelines that many movie houses and TV production companies use. BSG suffered from this but also broke away from this in sections and it was the better for it but conversely it suffered from it because the poorer written/directed episodes showed and showed up badly. In the end it comes down to whether your a dyed in the wool SF/Fantasy nutter/lover who's prepared to forgive much of the tosh and dross that presents as intelligent SF/Fantasy...you have to because there isn't much of it. BSG did a damn good job of trying and for that it gets kudo's from me. 1
Cafad Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Yeah, I was majorly disappointed in BSG because it drew me in and made me expect more from it and then it went and got all "religiously philosophical". Why, oh why does every single sci-fi writer feel that they have to go and get philosophical in a hard science show (which is what I was so desperately hoping BSG would be). Generally speaking I liked BSG, but I am very p^ssed at the ending, and at the fact that they never really gave a decent explanation as to the details within the backstory of the cylons. If they brought out a series of "Blood and Chrome" then I'd watch it, and I would hope once more that it would be a decent, hard science show that would move in a different direction than the revamp. Maybe I'm just a sci-fi sucker, but eventually a good non-philosophical, non-quasi-religious show has to arrive on the scene and when it does I'll be all over it.
Milo Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Didn't the series Caprica explain the back story of the Cyclons? I only saw bits of it on TV. It was a bit hard to follow.
vmhf Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Yes, Caprica was the series to set the foundations of the BSG universe. It was axed after one season though. If you thought the BSG series was full of religious undertones then watch Caprica to get an extra dosage
Cafad Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Yes, Caprica was the series to set the foundations of the BSG universe. It was axed after one season though. If you thought the BSG series was full of religious undertones then watch Caprica to get an extra dosage Thanks Vic, I knew there was a reason I didn't watch Caprica I was just having trouble remembering what it was.
Shane Frencham Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 I enjoyed BSG, but I think it went for 1 season too long, & really pushed my tolerence when Starbuck 'returned' from the other side. I haven't seen Caprica, any positive comments for it?
peacewise Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 Bsg Pretty average show, the sound is outstanding though.
Cafad Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 . Bsg Pretty average show, the sound is outstanding though. True! CGI was pretty damn good too. If only they had whipped the writers a little harder in between seasons it could have been so much better.
ehtcom Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 I enjoyed BSG, but I think it went for 1 season too long, & really pushed my tolerence when Starbuck 'returned' from the other side. I haven't seen Caprica, any positive comments for it? Starbuck was a Cylon.
LHC Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 Hi I thought from the post heading that it may have been the late 1970's series with Lorne Greene, which was amusing, and only 20 odd episodes, but probably by current cinematic standards would lack but most could pass as actors.... JJ +1 The original series + the movie was cool.
Saxon Hall Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 The original series was enjoyable in an old fashioned hokey sort of way. The Movie was basically an extended version. The new series was an absolute ripper and had so many thought provoking story lines. My wife and I would hang out for each new episode and if the TV networks stuffed around with it we would just go out and buy the box set. Caprica stood up quite well and helped with the back story but IMO was not as compelling. BSG required attention and concentration to appreciate it, so watching it distractedly or on a computer with sub titling would not be conducive to having a positive opinion of it.
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted July 13, 2013 Volunteer Posted July 13, 2013 Yeah, I was majorly disappointed in BSG because it drew me in and made me expect more from it and then it went and got all "religiously philosophical". Why, oh why does every single sci-fi writer feel that they have to go and get philosophical in a hard science show (which is what I was so desperately hoping BSG would be). Generally speaking I liked BSG, but I am very p^ssed at the ending, and at the fact that they never really gave a decent explanation as to the details within the backstory of the cylons. If they brought out a series of "Blood and Chrome" then I'd watch it, and I would hope once more that it would be a decent, hard science show that would move in a different direction than the revamp. Maybe I'm just a sci-fi sucker, but eventually a good non-philosophical, non-quasi-religious show has to arrive on the scene and when it does I'll be all over it. I was always religiously philosophical at its core. It is a mormon allegory
Cafad Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 I was always religiously philosophical at its core. It is a mormon allegory I realize that, and Glen Larson made no secret of it way back when, but there are ways to tell a story that can make it both meaningful and philosophical without making it look like "Angels" were trying to save us from our own creations. Sorry guys, bad sci-fi is a pet hate of mine, and BSG cops it worse than most from me because I really liked it in the beginning and then it went and disappointed me towards the end. I see it as just as much of a letdown as Heroes.
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