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Good morning everyone.

 

C anyone recommend someone knowledgeable to replace light glass double French doors to something more appropriate or acoustic I guess in Perth.  The existing ones  shake and rattle already with with a 5.1 system. I’ve an incoming upgrade for 5.2.2.

 

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1 hour ago, Adrian123 said:

Good morning everyone.

 

C anyone recommend someone knowledgeable to replace light glass double French doors to something more appropriate or acoustic I guess in Perth.  The existing ones  shake and rattle already with with a 5.1 system. I’ve an incoming upgrade for 5.2.2.

 

Current setup

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@Adrian123 bruh, yo camera flash aint working :0)

 

I reckon laminated glass might solve the resonance issue and a quick gooogle revealed this https://www.toughglass.com.au/product/custom-laminated-glass/

 

Cheers

2B

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I had a door made for my room, it's not French but it is acoustically sealed as best we could do in keeping with the aesthetics I was after. I found the door at a second image.thumb.jpeg.505defea45ab0b824d50e347218dd337.jpegimage.thumb.jpeg.3ea553a87000c465ccb57f9959ae595d.jpeghand shop it had been made for a project that had fallen through(so was actually new) and we put acoustic glass double glazing into it which is different to normal laminated double glazing. If you go to a glass manufacturer they would supply similar in what ever sizes you'd need.

I got my glass from these guys. https://gjames.com/glass/noise-control  don't know if they're in WA but the link in the post above might have it.

 

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@Adrian123 a possible alternate solution might be to apply security film to the existing glass.  This might change it's stiffness enough to shift or avoid the resonance behaviour.  Chrs, 2B

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Is the solid door ok to you athletics wise?? If yes then go for those. If you have double door and push pull handle, then maybe it’s the roller causing part of the problem.

 

I did find some soundproofing acoustic door in Perth but the price is jaw dropping. 

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Are the doors to replace the ones on the cabinet?

Do you really need them on there? As they are clear glass you can still see all components in there so I would just remove them altogether.

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Have a look at the Raven door seal products which you could use to help with dampening, sealing or if serious a door closer with a bottom seal which forces the door/s shut.

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Thanks for your responses. Im leaning towards a sold doors currently. Im presuming they would be a much better acoustical wise vs holllow glass French doors

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On 31/03/2022 at 8:46 PM, Pops110 said:

Are the doors to replace the ones on the cabinet?

Do you really need them on there? As they are clear glass you can still see all components in there so I would just remove them altogether.

 

I'm sure it's not the cabinet doors.

The doors are not in the picture.

Double french style doors are hard to sound proof.

They need to be replaced with a single solid door or one with proper glass in it.

 

Yeah.........look at the gap under the doors for starters!

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On 31/03/2022 at 6:06 AM, Adrian123 said:

Good morning everyone.

 

C anyone recommend someone knowledgeable to replace light glass double French doors to something more appropriate or acoustic I guess in Perth.  The existing ones  shake and rattle already with with a 5.1 system. I’ve an incoming upgrade for 5.2.2.

 

Current setup

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Have you tried putting sealing tape in the edge of one of the doors to stop it rattling against the other door?

 

You may also consider installing a heavy curtain(s) on a track to cover the doors during listening sessions which may also reduce reflections and door vibration. 

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4 hours ago, Adrian123 said:

Thanks for your responses. Im leaning towards a sold doors currently. Im presuming they would be a much better acoustical wise vs holllow glass French doors

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If you can wait, I’ll let you know what my door perform after installed. Solid door with seals. Maybe mid this month. 

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On 31/03/2022 at 6:06 AM, Adrian123 said:

shake and rattle

Have you tried tapping on the panes to see if any are rattling more than others, then apply some thin clear silicone seal where gaps exist?

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Just revisiting this topic as the door is finally here and installed. They are solid ply I believe. The tradie installed some seal along the door frame. Overall I have to say I’m not impressed enough. It doesn’t stop much sound. I know it won’t rattle like yours but I’m after more sound proof which is not up to expectations yet.  I’ll get seals installed on the bottom of the door and see how it improves soundproof.  

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You'll know if they're solid or not by the weight of them, and a simple knuckle knock will tell you if it rings.

You definitely need a proper Raven floor seal - the more expensive and intricate in design, the better the performance (which should be advertised as measurements on their tech data). I use one that fixes on the face or recessed and drops down automatically when closed (and with some weight and authority). This was on a solid external door, together with face fixed external seals around the perimeter. It was very effective.

 

My double internal doors however I am still arguing with. When we did a reno a tradie took it upon themselves to cut 40mm from the bottom of the doors (to help return air for the HVAC) - little did they know I already had a complex return air duct in the room! So now, like you, I am looking for a new double door solution once again.

 

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5 hours ago, Marc said:

You'll know if they're solid or not by the weight of them, and a simple knuckle knock will tell you if it rings.

You definitely need a proper Raven floor seal - the more expensive and intricate in design, the better the performance (which should be advertised as measurements on their tech data). I use one that fixes on the face or recessed and drops down automatically when closed (and with some weight and authority). This was on a solid external door, together with face fixed external seals around the perimeter. It was very effective.

 

My double internal doors however I am still arguing with. When we did a reno a tradie took it upon themselves to cut 40mm from the bottom of the doors (to help return air for the HVAC) - little did they know I already had a complex return air duct in the room! So now, like you, I am looking for a new double door solution once again.

 

Thanks Marc. Do you have a link for the one you used or something even better measured?  I found this on their website but not sure it’s the correct most effective one to use? https://www.raven.com.au/domino/raven/RPCEN.nsf/$defaultview/679629D6786CCB82E9256B6D002AC8A2

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9 hours ago, Marc said:

This here gives you a good idea of how to properly seal a door acoustically, without moving to full commercial and industrial door applications:

https://www.raven.com.au/domino/raven/ravenweb.nsf/syst1-v/012

I’ll check with my builder tomorrow. I think he has already looked something like this for me.  But he says there may be a gap between the double door because of installing the seals.  How was your double door done at the point where two seal channels match? 

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As I hinted at above, I have done the full Raven treatment on the single, external door. I have not yet treated the double door in the same room.

It's on "the list" for when I can get around to it :)

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Haha. Ok. I thought you had double external door as well.  It’s trickier to soundproof double doors as there are more gaps. 

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The builder is going to order some seal for double doors from ravens which will seal not just the bottom but also between two doors. This will be something exciting. Once installed I’ll take some photos and report back the soundproof performance.   Right now when I clap inside of the room close to the door, I can hear echo from outside due to gaps of the double door.  

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Gaps are filled now  much better but not as good as I hoped for  I’d say at least 50-60% of sound are blocked by these seals, but I can still hear sound coming out  DB639AE0-287E-49CC-82B4-95BF79773991.thumb.jpeg.132afb77d3a8a9f366a122a6dea42bc7.jpeg

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