betty boop Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 8 hours ago, rhi said: Still enjoying my NZ8 so far... although I think I made a mistake with my mount choice as it's an absolute pain in the butt to align accurately. I'm open to suggestions of what I could get to replace it that is easier/better to align and then lock in place. what mount did you go for ? that having difficulty with ? unfortunately unless a precision geared mount ..all these other once do struggle ..i too in my initial foray into projectors bought a nightmare to adjust mount... thankfully more knowledgeable among us let me know and was able to swap over... 2 hours ago, rhi said: Can those mounts be bought in Australia? I had a bit of a look around but didn't have much luck yes oztheatre has always sold the peerless ... I have one myself. am not sure can suggest one for a Nz8 though ? as it wont fall off or break or anything i dont think...but its borderline with n7 have to take weight off the front to adjust. have used my peerless with jvc for years... but nz8 is step up in weight i do have a chief RPMA 281 unused that i bought prior to getting the crimson mount(just not had time to change over yet being in between renovations and work busy ! ) ..both these mounts are available from our friends in AVS with the appropriate mount plate for JVC... the chief you can buy locally as well. but impossible to get the appropriate JVC mount plate locally. the crimson can take the nz8 ..as can the chief.. but just be aware chief has listed weight limit just under the NZ8...and there are folk happily using their Nz with chief still... 3 hours ago, rhi said: I wonder if they could attach to the pole I have installed already or would I need to install a different pole... all these projectors mounts take standard threaded pole...peerless - crimson - crimson...all no probs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 19 hours ago, rhi said: Also, is masking possible on a drop down 16:9 screen? Luckily I can turn down the iris a lot so I get excellent contrast, but it'd be nice to totally black out the bars on the top and bottom of movies. one thing folks do with motorised screens is move them up for scope - so the bottom black bar is the bottom black bar for the picture.. screens like screen technics have set positions can save in memory and you can also marry that up with lens memory on the jvc. the top section you can use cardboard backed self adhesive felt from spotlight to make clip on masking. the risk here is you forget and hit the screen to go up before have unclipped the masking another alternative is some folks have another screen.. so dual screens one scope one 16:9 third approach is folks use a black top motorised roller blind to come down to mask the top while you use the motorised screen to take up the bottom and hence can mask for scope.. the dual screen approach is probably the most popular ive seen folks use ... it still needs to use lens memory on the jvc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhi Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 11 hours ago, betty boop said: what mount did you go for ? that having difficulty with ? unfortunately unless a precision geared mount ..all these other once do struggle ..i too in my initial foray into projectors bought a nightmare to adjust mount... thankfully more knowledgeable among us let me know and was able to swap over... yes oztheatre has always sold the peerless ... I have one myself. am not sure can suggest one for a Nz8 though ? as it wont fall off or break or anything i dont think...but its borderline with n7 have to take weight off the front to adjust. have used my peerless with jvc for years... but nz8 is step up in weight i do have a chief RPMA 281 unused that i bought prior to getting the crimson mount(just not had time to change over yet being in between renovations and work busy ! ) ..both these mounts are available from our friends in AVS with the appropriate mount plate for JVC... the chief you can buy locally as well. but impossible to get the appropriate JVC mount plate locally. the crimson can take the nz8 ..as can the chief.. but just be aware chief has listed weight limit just under the NZ8...and there are folk happily using their Nz with chief still... all these projectors mounts take standard threaded pole...peerless - crimson - crimson...all no probs... I went with this mount: https://screentechnics.com.au/products/brackets/projector-brackets/interfit-projector-bracket It's easy to make rough adjustments but making fine adjustments is very difficult. You can't change one axis at a time due to the gimbal so you can line it up on one axis but then it's out of alignment on the other axis. Very frustrating... So it seems like if I want the chief or crimson mount I have to order from overseas? That's a bummer but not impossible to do... Should have gone with one of those mounts in the first place probably. I assume I'd contact Mike Garrett/AVScience about the mount and go from there? 1 hour ago, betty boop said: one thing folks do with motorised screens is move them up for scope - so the bottom black bar is the bottom black bar for the picture.. screens like screen technics have set positions can save in memory and you can also marry that up with lens memory on the jvc. the top section you can use cardboard backed self adhesive felt from spotlight to make clip on masking. the risk here is you forget and hit the screen to go up before have unclipped the masking another alternative is some folks have another screen.. so dual screens one scope one 16:9 third approach is folks use a black top motorised roller blind to come down to mask the top while you use the motorised screen to take up the bottom and hence can mask for scope.. the dual screen approach is probably the most popular ive seen folks use ... it still needs to use lens memory on the jvc The adhesive felt sounds like a good option. Obviously I have to be careful it doesn't damage the screen material. I wonder if there's a way of making something that clips on to the screen... My current screen is from Elite Screens - Starling Tab Tension 2 at 120" with 16:9 aspect ratio I almost went with their dual screen option, but they didn't have a 120" 16:9 version of that with tab tensioning unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzHT Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, rhi said: I went with this mount: https://screentechnics.com.au/products/brackets/projector-brackets/interfit-projector-bracket It's easy to make rough adjustments but making fine adjustments is very difficult. You can't change one axis at a time due to the gimbal so you can line it up on one axis but then it's out of alignment on the other axis. Very frustrating... So it seems like if I want the chief or crimson mount I have to order from overseas? That's a bummer but not impossible to do... Should have gone with one of those mounts in the first place probably. That Screen Technics mount looks a little 'low end' to me so I can see where issues might crop up for you with adjustment. Yep, no dramas at all, AV Australia sell Chief. I have in the past also bought them through BHphotovideo from the US if there's been a local supply issue as it's super fast. They're specifically threaded, so I doubt very much you could do that as diameter as well as thread are likely to be different. You're also meant to use the heavier duty version on the slightly heavier NZ series, but I doubt the extra bit of weight would stress the standard series Chief RPMA281. Ive got the heavy duty series from my Z1 one so I just reused that one for the NZ9. The Peerless I have I like a bit less than the Chief ones I've had, but still works fine with the NX7. The same situation applies with the 50lb weight limit with Peerless' standard models too though. Edited August 19, 2022 by OzHT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, rhi said: went with this mount: https://screentechnics.com.au/products/brackets/projector-brackets/interfit-projector-bracket It's easy to make rough adjustments but making fine adjustments is very difficult. You can't change one axis at a time due to the gimbal so you can line it up on one axis but then it's out of alignment on the other axis. Very frustrating... ~ yep thats the kind of mount i originally went for in my first foray in projectors ... they are jsut impossible.. once see jsut how amazing in use the precision mounts are peerless-chief-crimson. will be wondering why ever wasted time with the gimble mount ! 3 hours ago, rhi said: So it seems like if I want the chief or crimson mount I have to order from overseas? That's a bummer but not impossible to do... Should have gone with one of those mounts in the first place probably. the chief you can get locally ... its not cheap ! and cant buy direct from the importer/distributor. they organise through a reseller who have no clue what they are selling in my case it came through the local electrical wholesaler that seller plugs and switches and cables etc to sparkies. Do keep in mind the JVC mount plate you need to get from Mike on AVS. the crimson can also get locally but again keep in mind the jvc mount plate for that too is only available from mike on avs... the local guys have no idea on this ! ie the mounts plates... 3 hours ago, rhi said: I assume I'd contact Mike Garrett/AVScience about the mount and go from there? the fly in the ointment with this .. is mike though was fine with selling me jvc mount plate on its own for the chief and meant i could buy the chief RPMA281 locally ... with the crimson they only sell the mount and jvc mount plate as a pair and come in the same box all packaged up.. the other thing with getting from US it can take an absolute eternity .. someone here was waiting for literally months upon months ...mine took about 2 months ? maybe 3 cant remember now ! AVS do package very well and use a decent shipper so comes to you safely in the end. Edited August 19, 2022 by betty boop 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, OzHT said: That Screen Technics mount looks a little 'low end' to me so I can see where issues might crop up for you with adjustment. agree there.. 1 hour ago, OzHT said: They're specifically threaded, so I doubt very much you could do that as diameter as well as thread are likely to be different. thread on chief, peerless and crimson mount are all exactly the same so will take a threaded pole mount. can buy this locally same time as buy the chief mount or through screen technics or any other projector mount or projector retailer. can also get a plumber to cut and thread up some pipe for you from reece then spray black or what ever colour you want 1 hour ago, OzHT said: You're also meant to use the heavier duty version on the slightly heavier NZ series, but I doubt the extra bit of weight would stress the standard series Chief RPMA281. Ive got the heavy duty series from my Z1 one so I just reused that one for the NZ9. The Peerless I have I like a bit less than the Chief ones I've had, but still works fine with the NX7. The same situation applies with the 50lb weight limit with Peerless' standard models too though. i researched this carefully from memory my n7 currently is totally fine in load rating on the peerless but it requires because the nz7 is so front heavy with its lens that have to lift it up to adjust and then lock it up to stop it dropping it wont fall off or anything its jsut the adjustment with the gear drive but once locked up the peerless will stay there for years. the cheif is a more beefy unit and especially if get the jvc mount plate for it ...wont have any of concerns of the peerless... load rating wise.. the jvc nz7 is 22.5kg the peerless is only rated at 22kg the chief ramp is rated at 50 lb or 22.67kg.. so right on capacity for the Nz7 chief for what ever reason went public to say we cant recommend using their mount for jvc nz series ! and recommend another mount of theirs which is an absolute beast and costs a lot of money.. personally having seen the ramp 281 i cant for life of me think why it wouldnt be suitable and the very slight over weight should be covered well and truly with the factor of safety of design whcih is likely 1.5 - 2.5x ! its probably the us litigation laws and they just down want to get caught up in anything incase something did happen some how ... the crimson is rated at 31.8kg so will handle the Nz series but honestly its not built any different to the chief..infact the chief looks beefier.. the crimson is a bit more compact and still well built though I think its also bit of a relative newbie compared to chief or peerless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzHT Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 9 hours ago, betty boop said: thread on chief, peerless and crimson mount are all exactly the same so will take a threaded pole mount. can buy this locally same time as buy the chief mount or through screen technics or any other projector mount or projector retailer. can also get a plumber to cut and thread up some pipe for you from reece then spray black or what ever colour you want Not something I would have guessed or recommended someone take a chance with. But since you've specifically been able to test that then that's good to know for those with Crimsons. Getting a plumber for pretty much anything is an expensive endeavour these days though 9 hours ago, betty boop said: chief for what ever reason went public to say we cant recommend using their mount for jvc nz series ! and recommend another mount of theirs which is an absolute beast and costs a lot of money.. personally having seen the ramp 281 i cant for life of me think why it wouldnt be suitable and the very slight over weight should be covered well and truly with the factor of safety of design whcih is likely 1.5 - 2.5x ! its probably the us litigation laws and they just down want to get caught up in anything incase something did happen some how ... the crimson is rated at 31.8kg so will handle the Nz series but honestly its not built any different to the chief..infact the chief looks beefier.. the crimson is a bit more compact and still well built though I think its also bit of a relative newbie compared to chief or peerless. I'm sure that's pure arse covering on Chief's part. Also gives them the perfect excuse to try to market the much more expensive VCMU mount that I've got to NZ owners... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, OzHT said: Not something I would have guessed or recommended someone take a chance with. But since you've specifically been able to test that then that's good to know for those with Crimsons. Getting a plumber for pretty much anything is an expensive endeavour these days though ha theres no chance in it, as its just standard thread pipe that all..whether plumber threads it or chief and sells it doesnt matter its jsut standard thread and standard pipe. ps any engineering shop with a pipe threader can also do. but can also buy pre threaded pipe lengths from bunnings/ reece any plumbing supplier too its just 1.5" NPT and this will suits either peerless, crimson or chief 34 minutes ago, OzHT said: 'm sure that's pure arse covering on Chief's part. Also gives them the perfect excuse to try to market the much more expensive VCMU mount that I've got to NZ owners... it definitely is ..i can see their point of view.. while they have quoted the weight rating of the mount and it is just under nz7... if you add anything like extension pipes, cables etc to .. its going to go over and wouldnt want to leave open to unnecessary litigation. dont know too many charging over their chief rpm for vcmu..i recall one guy who did and was plain shocked at both the size/bulk and price of the thing definitely appropriate for something like the big mighty z1 though i would say ... Edited August 20, 2022 by betty boop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzHT Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 4 hours ago, betty boop said: ha theres no chance in it, as its just standard thread pipe that all.. Al, that's not what I was getting at mate. If you read my comment as I meant them, I saying you wouldn't just take a stab at it if you didn't specifically know the Crimson (Peerless or Chief) all had the same diameters and thread, like you have informed us of. That's also good to know re sourcing off the shelf pipe at bunnings, I seriously wouldn't have expected this either. 4 hours ago, betty boop said: it definitely is ..i can see their point of view.. while they have quoted the weight rating of the mount and it is just under nz7... if you add anything like extension pipes, cables etc to .. its going to go over and wouldnt want to leave open to unnecessary litigation. Of course, its a standard corporate there to limit even the smallest chance of liability, not surprising in the least frankly. Yeah the VCMU is totally built for the purpose and right at home with a big unit like the Z1. Mind you doesn't at all look out of place with the NZ9, just a very dear option. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhi Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 I'll have to email screen technics and ask what threading they use. I really hope it's the same as what chief/crimson/peerless use or it's going to be annoying to fit a new mount. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j19801110 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 FYI, guys. The below mount fit my NZ8 very well and it’s pretty cheap for what you get! I think also comes with different pole lengths. https://www.mwave.com.au/product/tixx-pmhd-heavy-duty-projector-ceiling-mount-black-ac37348 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk_Prime Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Hey guys, I'm waiting for my NZ7 (ordered since December) to arrive and still no luck. Looks like it's still on a ship somewhere. Just wondering if anyone has had any issues with the supply chain? Was hoping it would've settled but looks like there's a backlog and not sure when I'll be waiting for. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j19801110 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 I don’t know why but I think they said April for next shipment. You can ask your supplier as JVC does have the info. As to where you are in the queue, that’s hard to know but can ask them that too! I waited a year for my unit… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk_Prime Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Thanks. Was just told it was in the latest shipment and one allocated but original estimations were the end of February and they still can't give an ETA so not really sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j19801110 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Very frustrating but sounds like you have a unit allocation so you're next in line! It should be here soon then! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJedi Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Finaly got my NZ7 and it is amazing ordered in in July and just got it 2 weeks ago in March purchased the bracket from Mike Garrett/AVScience cost around $550 delivered just had to purchase the right hight pole to suit very sturdy construction and easy to install. a long wait but worth it . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhamus Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Hey guys, Can anyone give a rough street price for an NP5 and NZ7?. Ill be pulling the plug on one of these projectors in the next month.....so just want to see what I'm up for cost wise?. If you can PM me the ball park of pricing that would be awesome Thanks Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMDave Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 The gift that just keeps on giving. Another free firmware update for owners: https://www.jvc.com/global/support/download/pj202203_firmware/ "Second Generation Frame Adapt provides improved Dynamic Tone Mapping for HDR images with high peak white information in the image." Looking forward to feedback from owners. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMDave Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 And new, Version 13 AutoCal software to go with it. https://www3.jvckenwood.com/english/download/pj202111_calibrationsoft-dl.html Double bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard76 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 With the N500 disappointingly not supporting 3D it looks like the NP5 is the last projector from any manufacturer that ticks all the boxes for me at a somewhat reasonable price. Lens memory is also a must-have for me. Does anyone know if the NP5 will be discontinued soon? Also, can anyone let me know what a realistic price is/which shop are best to go with? Every retailer just lists RRP of $10,999. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 17 minutes ago, blizzard76 said: Does anyone know if the NP5 will be discontinued soon? Also, can anyone let me know what a realistic price is/which shop are best to go with? Every retailer just lists RRP of $10,999. Thanks! there has been some discounting in us reported in best best buy or whatever there. over here will depend i guess on stock situation if much needs clearing. it would be a solid projector for the money .. even the base laser coming nz500/700 are more expensive ? and look to be deficient in a few ways 3D, 12V trigger things like full 4k support for gaming, also check contrast and lumens and colour space...the N series is probably cheapest entry point right now... for the all glass lens used in the nz8/nz800 ? and previous lamp jvc ? there is some change in the installation requirement with the nz500/700 has a rear exhaust i think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaynin Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 28 minutes ago, blizzard76 said: With the N500 disappointingly not supporting 3D it looks like the NP5 is the last projector from any manufacturer that ticks all the boxes for me at a somewhat reasonable price. Lens memory is also a must-have for me. Does anyone know if the NP5 will be discontinued soon? Also, can anyone let me know what a realistic price is/which shop are best to go with? Every retailer just lists RRP of $10,999. Thanks! I wouldn't expect a discontinuation soon, it was released 2 years ago and is aimed at lamp purchasers, everything else they have is laser so I think it's JVC keeping a portion of the market happy. I paid $9,500 for mine about 18 months ago, if that helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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