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Hey all

 

So after a month or two of chewing my fingernails, having debates with myself in the shower, and staring blankly at my bank statement, I've ordered an L5 Lampizator w/volume, USB, Jensen caps. Am looking forward to joining the cult and having 'eargasms' each evening. 

 

I'd like to hear from any other Lampi owners (particularly those with L4/L5) out there. I've been through all the threads I can find, and some of them are quite old now, so I figured it was time for new posts.

 

Anyone upgraded to Gen4? What caps did you go for? (Jensen/VCaps) Power cable/conditioning tips? Stories of rapturous listening experiences where relatives have broken down the door of the listening room to find you kneeling before your rack speaking in tongues?

 

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Hey all   So after a month or two of chewing my fingernails, having debates with myself in the shower, and staring blankly at my bank statement, I've ordered an L5 Lampizator w/volume, USB, Jensen c

wis97non
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http://www.facebook.com/lampizator.byfikus?fref=ts   I use a ROWEN Swiss Power modded Nad C375BEE integrated amp. Its SS.  The mod improves the preamp stage and then most importantly, it mods the po

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Excuse me for butting in, but I 'heard' my name mentioned! Maybe a 'dead' Lampi forum is a GOOD omen? Yes, too busy listening to post there. I 'feed' my Lampi 4 via a NAS/Mac Mini sourced system

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Try www.lampizatorforum.com and the Lampizator page on FaceBook.

 

I had a L3 Gen 3 and now have a L4 Gen 4. It is all that for sure....they both are.

Jensen caps, no USB or volume control. Just Coax and AES/EBU inputs. Red power button...L3 was BLUE.

Graeme has a L4 too..

 

Since I got it, unfortunately I have not spent as much time listening as I should. No dedicated room.

I am also checking out DSD on the Chord. The Lampi is a keeper though as the sound is grown up, nothing adolescent about it. LoL

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Wis,

Cool - alas the Lampi forum appears to be pretty dead. Owners too busy listening to tunes? I searched Facebook and found Lukasz, but it looks more like a private account than a public page - can you paste a link pls?

What pre/power combo & speakers are you using?

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Wis,

Cool - alas the Lampi forum appears to be pretty dead. Owners too busy listening to tunes? I searched Facebook and found Lukasz, but it looks more like a private account than a public page - can you paste a link pls?

What pre/power combo & speakers are you using?

Excuse me for butting in, but I 'heard' my name mentioned! ;)

Maybe a 'dead' Lampi forum is a GOOD omen? Yes, too busy listening to post there. :P

I 'feed' my Lampi 4 via a NAS/Mac Mini sourced system, into a Concert Fidelity LSX2 line pre-amp, feeding a lovely pair of SGR CX4F active speakers.

Lampi has I2S USB module, Coax/RCA inputs only, no volume control. Upgraded the rectifier tube to a good NOS GZ34 tube, as recommended by Lukasz, with a very enjoyable improvement in SQ. :)

I also use a good power cable (Russ Andrews Reference) and a good USB cable.

All of these 'tweaks' have resulted in SQ improvements, to my ears at least!

Wis97non has been most helpful on the journey to my enjoyment of the music now emanating from my speakers.

I wish you much enjoyment with your Lampi 5 Henry.

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Wis,

Cool - alas the Lampi forum appears to be pretty dead. Owners too busy listening to tunes? I searched Facebook and found Lukasz, but it looks more like a private account than a public page - can you paste a link pls?

What pre/power combo & speakers are you using?

http://www.facebook.com/lampizator.byfikus?fref=ts

 

I use a ROWEN Swiss Power modded Nad C375BEE integrated amp. Its SS.  The mod improves the preamp stage and then most importantly, it mods the power amp to have a negative output impedance. This the amp is now stable down to 1 ohm and will deliver up to 750WPC of dynamic power. The bass is phenomenal.

http://www.dynavox.ch/fr/data/rse_c375.php

 Tech explanation: http://rowen.ch/en/negimp.php

"Loudspeakers act as reactive load and reach with any new transient on engagement or with a periodic signal for short moment’s impedances down to less then 1 Ohm. In these moments the real power of an amplifier is needed. High power voltage performance at 4 and 8 Ohms are therefore not relevant. With traditional amplifier designs the limiting circuit responds with impedances close to 2 Ohms anyway at this is where literal "power plants" of power amps fail.

Our power amplifiers are consequently designed for voltage stability without using limiter circuits or loudspeaker relays. The unique overcompensated attenuation (negative output impedance) leads to a solution which takes the dynamic losses of cable, passive crossovers and inertia of the transducers in consideration, which makes these problems disappear. Far higher control of the membrane and clearly more dynamic are results of this exclusive ROWEN solution. The music appears to be more vivid. The tension and the expression of any single note played leads directly to the impression that the musicians are directly in front of you."

 

Speakers are Heil AMT Syrinx :  http://www.precide.ch/test/Heil/e_syrinx.htm

http://www.precide.ch/eng/eheil/eheil.htm

 

I need to set up the Aulos as well to form a wall of Sound. Longer term project.

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Grame is the GZ34 a straight drop in on the Lampi? I have a Lampi 4 and also a spare mullard gz34 lying around!!

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It depends on what you have now. Check the back plate:

 

>Hello,
> the rectifier 5c4S or 5Y3 can be exchanged with any octal rectifier which code starts with 5. No problem, except that some of them are too long to fit physically.
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> 6X5 rectifiers can only be replaced with 6X5 and no exceptions.
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> So far the best results for 5Y3 were obtained by using a good NOS GZ34.
>Rgds Lampizator.

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Bugger my only takes 6x5

Why did he change his specs, even when the dacs are if the same vintage? I have caps on mine that I have never seen him use on other dacs!

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Graeme has a Gen 4 L4, is that the same you have?

 

What is your serial number? What are the output tubes and caps?

 

On the contrary, you may be able to roll your output caps if you have the appropriate build. i think Graeme may have some tubes he could sell you if they are workable....

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When I bought mine back in June last year, I was told it was the lastest Gen. Didn't know about Gen 3 or 4. The dealer told me it was his personal unit and that Lucaz fitted some special caps in them. He also told me it had a NOS Phillips recitfer tube in it.

Well I now know my unit is Gen 3 with Serial number 153. The caps in them are very small with its writing on it scratched off. Light green in color and a total of 6, 3 per side.

The Rectifer tube was not a NOS Phillips but a standard Russian 6u5c.

The dealer told me that the caps was specially chosen by Lucaz and that they sold better than the Jensen or Vcap.

How much truth in what he said , I don't know.

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When I bought mine back in June last year, I was told it was the lastest Gen. Didn't know about Gen 3 or 4. The dealer told me it was his personal unit and that Lucaz fitted some special caps in them. He also told me it had a NOS Phillips recitfer tube in it.

Well I now know my unit is Gen 3 with Serial number 153. The caps in them are very small with its writing on it scratched off. Light green in color and a total of 6, 3 per side.

The Rectifer tube was not a NOS Phillips but a standard Russian 6u5c.

The dealer told me that the caps was specially chosen by Lucaz and that they sold better than the Jensen or Vcap.

How much truth in what he said , I don't know.

 

Hmm if i am reading this correctly, if the dealer has sold you the unit and quoted that it has Nos philip rect tube in it, then you should chase this up with the dealer and get a replacement. It could have been a genuine mistake on the dealer's part, but for a dealer not knowing this is a concern. Common practice is for dealers to at least do a check on their ordered stock, run them in for the buyer to ensure that nothing is wrong with it. I'd expect this with gear that's of this caliber and price range. Definately email Mr Lukasz about this.

 

Perhaps you could trade this unit in for a Gen 4 unit..... Just food for thought..

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When I bought mine back in June last year, I was told it was the lastest Gen. Didn't know about Gen 3 or 4. The dealer told me it was his personal unit and that Lucaz fitted some special caps in them. He also told me it had a NOS Phillips recitfer tube in it.

Well I now know my unit is Gen 3 with Serial number 153. The caps in them are very small with its writing on it scratched off. Light green in color and a total of 6, 3 per side.

The Rectifer tube was not a NOS Phillips but a standard Russian 6u5c.

The dealer told me that the caps was specially chosen by Lucaz and that they sold better than the Jensen or Vcap.

How much truth in what he said , I don't know.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate you sharing your experience with us. I think Mr L. would appreciate an email from you too.

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I think it was an honest mistake in regards to what tubes was inside? As to which Gen, I think the GEN 4 just came out and since the dealer was no longer stocking Lampi he could have been ignorant of the new generation.

What I would like to find out is what caps are in my unit. I will email Lucaz in the next few weeks.

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The dealer sold you a unit stating contents different from what is on the back plate?

 

I would hope he would have given you a discount, since he was no longer carrying Lampi Dacs...(plus it was his personal unit, so used).

 

This was never a Gen 4 as the serial number is too low. You read the Lampi website and Gen4 starts from 200 or so.

 

That being said, Dacs with that serial number range 100-150 tended to sound REALLY good and have their own magic. I have a couple plas in Boston with serial numbers close to 100 and they are still loving their Level 4s.

 

Unless you dont like the sound, you really dont have much to worry about.

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I did get a great price so I am not complaining. Will email Lucaz to see wether the caps are worth upgrading. Wis if you pm me your email, I can send you some pics of the caps.

I am using mine with a Lampi transport. If I had to do it again, I would have skipped the transport. It is still too temperamental to use!!!

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Bugger my only takes 6x5

Why did he change his specs, even when the dacs are if the same vintage? I have caps on mine that I have never seen him use on other dacs!

Sorry, only just revisiting this thread.

The back plate on my Level 4 Gen 4 Lampi says the rectifier tube is a 6X5. BUT, on sliding back the top cover, I saw it is actually a JAN 5Y3 rectifier tube. PHEW!!

So check inside first, but be careful with the lid! ;)

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Just wondering whether anyone in Sydney has any generation lampizator which I could audition, and whether anyone has one which they have now upgraded from, and want to sell?

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