eLicky Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, wolster said: Just downloaded the app on my Samsung tablet. Same as phone, all ultra HD tracks and albums identified. I'm all good now for home, it's just at work with Windows 10 that there is a problem. I wonder if it works on Macs? When I was in Amazon chat, he said said a few things that suggested it was PC and Mac. Maybe someone can confirm. I just think its silly taking this long to fix, a company like Amazon and especially after it just launched in Australia. 1
Guest Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 Odd. I still have UHD available. Can't understand why some do and some don't.
Niktech Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 I think it’s the most recent update that is wrong with the Windows 10 version. I had an update pending but didn’t install it. However, overnight the app ihas done so on its own accord. The highest quality after the update is now limited to “Best available”, no option for Ultra HD.
Esoterica Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 I signed onto the free trial thanks to my learned colleagues here. I didn't know HD was available until I happened to read this thread. Funnily enough I got an offer from apple music shortly after to re-subscribe for 3 months and only pay for 1 month. Coincidence? Surely not. I've used amazon prime music a fair bit and think the look of it, is on the lowest end of the scale, but I can tolerate it, if the sound quality and price are satisfactory. I was looking to re-sub to Tidal or Qobuz recently and can't accept their (around) $30/m fee. I'm listening to an ultra HD (apparently) album (DZ Deathrays-Positive Rising:Pt. 2) on Amazon music now and like that is shows you the music path, although I don't know how accurate it is. It tells me that the whole chain is in 24bit/48kHz, from track-ios device-CXN v2 streamer (although amazon has that as "unknown device"). I'm sure I've read that airplay is limited to 44.1kHz, so maybe that's why my streamer is displaying that and 16-bit as the quality? I'll have to try a wired connection. It sounds good though, so who knows the specs. On the bright/clinical, but accurate side though.
Niktech Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Esoterica said: I signed onto the free trial thanks to my learned colleagues here. I didn't know HD was available until I happened to read this thread. Funnily enough I got an offer from apple music shortly after to re-subscribe for 3 months and only pay for 1 month. Coincidence? Surely not. I've used amazon prime music a fair bit and think the look of it, is on the lowest end of the scale, but I can tolerate it, if the sound quality and price are satisfactory. I was looking to re-sub to Tidal or Qobuz recently and can't accept their (around) $30/m fee. I'm listening to an ultra HD (apparently) album (DZ Deathrays-Positive Rising:Pt. 2) on Amazon music now and like that is shows you the music path, although I don't know how accurate it is. It tells me that the whole chain is in 24bit/48kHz, from track-ios device-CXN v2 streamer (although amazon has that as "unknown device"). I'm sure I've read that airplay is limited to 44.1kHz, so maybe that's why my streamer is displaying that and 16-bit as the quality? I'll have to try a wired connection. It sounds good though, so who knows the specs. On the bright/clinical, but accurate side though. There is a certain brightness to the sound quality of Amazon Music . Well, from the Windows 10 app there certainly is. And, after my initial enthusiasm, I’m starting to prefer the sound quality of streaming Apple Music from my IPad Air 4 > Auralic Aries mini > Hermes DDC > Pontus II. No brightness, great mids and low end bass extension. Bass boost is on in Apple Music settings There is also the convenience with Apple Music of not having to get up to change track selection on the Music PC - It would seem that even on BlueOS there’s still some work to do in terms of effectively controlling Amazon Music. Edited October 31, 2021 by Niktech 1
Esoterica Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Niktech said: There is a certain brightness to the sound quality of Amazon Music . Well, from the Windows 10 app there certainly is. And, after my initial enthusiasm, I’m starting to prefer the sound quality of streaming Apple Music from my IPad Air 4 > Auralic Aries mini > Hermes DDC > Pontus II. No brightness, great mids and low end bass extension. Bass boost is on in Apple Music settings There is also the convenience with Apple Music of not having to get up to change track selection on the Music PC - It would seem that even on BlueOS there’s still some work to do in terms of effectively controlling Amazon Music. Can't you use the amazon music app to cast using airplay? That's what I do, from iPad pro 2 - Cambridge CXN v2 - Primare i32. I assume the Aries has airplay capability if you can stream Apple Music without getting up. I haven't had Apple Music for a while, but don't remember thinking it was too bright or light on bass etc. It just sounds natural I suppose.
Niktech Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 Aries does have Airplay,, which I use to stream Apple Music. Some genres I listen too sounds better with more bass, . Other than that Apple Music sounded fine to my ears, and actually Apple Music sounds better to me streaming to the Aries with airplay rather than a direct usb connection to DAC. I did try streaming Amazon Music via airplay, but didn’t really find that to sound any better. Still quite bright. 1
JD1 Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 I am new to streaming and want to try the amazon free trial. Will it steam to a Lumin T2. Do I make the connection on my computer or through the Lumin app via the iPad.
Esoterica Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) On 01/11/2021 at 3:34 PM, Niktech said: and actually Apple Music sounds better to me streaming to the Aries with airplay rather than a direct usb connection to DAC. Very interesting. I haven't done enough comparing between a wired and wireless connection, as I'm too lazy to use wired much. Pretty much have only done to test my streamer to see if I could get it to display higher than 44.1/16, which it does when using usb, but I don't think it matters as the streamer upscales it. Forgot to say, I was surprised to see one of my recent favourite albums (Turnstile - Glow On) on Amazon Unlimited in atmos and ultra HD. Mainly because it's far from mainstream, but has been getting lots of buzz, so maybe someone encoded it, or however it works? Anyway, a pleasant surprise. Edited November 6, 2021 by Esoterica Addendum 1
Esoterica Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 3 hours ago, JD1 said: I am new to streaming and want to try the amazon free trial. Will it steam to a Lumin T2. Do I make the connection on my computer or through the Lumin app via the iPad. Yes it will. I'm not familiar with the T2, but googled it. It has airplay capability so just download the Amazon music app on your iPad, search for and select music you want to play and press the symbol that is a rectangle with lines in left bottom corner, select airplay and all your devices will appear. Select the T2 and enjoy Your iPad and T2 need to be on the same network.
wklie Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 4 hours ago, JD1 said: I am new to streaming and want to try the amazon free trial. Will it steam to a Lumin T2. Do I make the connection on my computer or through the Lumin app via the iPad. Please use an iPad to AirPlay it to Lumin.
JD1 Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 Okay thanks I assume the airplay from the iPad goes back to the lumin via the router and Lan cable connection as the Lumin has no wireless connection.
Esoterica Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 3 hours ago, JD1 said: Okay thanks I assume the airplay from the iPad goes back to the lumin via the router and Lan cable connection as the Lumin has no wireless connection. It doesn't matter how the Lumin gets the internet, as long as it's on the same network as the controlling device.
Esoterica Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 The same thing that has always displeased me about Amazon Music is their menus and appearance, but since getting unlimited the lack of content is the worst thing about the service. Many albums I'd expect to find there, I haven't.
eLicky Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, Esoterica said: The same thing that has always displeased me about Amazon Music is their menus and appearance, but since getting unlimited the lack of content is the worst thing about the service. Many albums I'd expect to find there, I haven't. I want to use Amazon Music full-time but not having bit-perfect exclusive mode has turned me away. All the resampling is done through Windows and not really how a streaming service advertising HD / Ultra HD should be implemented. But I guess we're the minority, nobody cares as casual music listeners, and for that Amazon Music does a good job. Its just not for purists or passionate audiophiles. As much I dislike paying it I'm sticking with Tidal for now, Qobuz is a very close second place but also few problems. 1
mjs Posted November 7, 2021 Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) I've been mucking around with most of the "new" better sound quality offerings from music providers, Apple, Spotify (still waiting ). I normally use Qobuz integrated into an Auralic streamer. So, I thought I'd give Amazon a go Signed up to 3 months trial (and almost immediately cancelled). marketing is a great thing, you can say anything you like and get away with it. Ultra HD means what? Generally in most cases not a lot more than 24bit/48kHz, easy to use Airplay to get music into the system, but that's limiting in bitrate. Wired connection not seeming particularly friendly, Amazon doesn’t seem to handle USB output from the iPad as well as say Apple Music does., so have to say, Amazon doesn't really offer me anything. Absolutely fine for a huge range of music at CD quality, great for mobile use, so it will get a crowd of users I am sure. Edited November 7, 2021 by mjs
Niktech Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 I’m not sure if this has been posted here somewhere already, but the Auralic Lightning DS platform now has integrated Amazon Music Unlimited. Quite a coup apparently as Amazon has been reluctant to partner with other platforms. https://darko.audio/2021/12/auralic-now-supports-amazon-music-unlimited/ 1
rand129678 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Niktech said: Quite a coup apparently as Amazon has been reluctant to partner with other platforms. It's been on Bluesound's BluOS for a while. Very ugly user interface but that's not Bluesound's fault - it's Amazon's limited API. https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/1500000440621-Amazon-HD-
Niktech Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) Yes, that’s true with the api, but in the case of Lightning DS Amazon is actually integrated within Auralic ecosystem as with Quobuz, Tidal and HD Tracks. It’s a completely different experience. Edited December 27, 2021 by Niktech Spelling
rand129678 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Niktech said: but in the case of Lightning DS Amazon is actually integrated within Auralic ecosystem as with Quobuz, Tidal and HD Tracks. It’s a completely different experience. Are there any screenshots or vids of how it actually looks on Lightning DS? The video linked on darko doesn't really show it, unless I missed it. The video seems to show Qobuz for some reason
Niktech Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 There’s a couple here mate. https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/bits-and-bytes/auralic-launches-amazon-music-unlimited-on-all-products-r1070/ I haven’t fired up Lightning DS to look myself. I’ve got enough subscription services and won’t be adding Amazon Music.
rand129678 Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Niktech said: There’s a couple here mate. https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/bits-and-bytes/auralic-launches-amazon-music-unlimited-on-all-products-r1070/ I haven’t fired up Lightning DS to look myself. I’ve got enough subscription services and won’t be adding Amazon Music. That UI looks quite limited, when you compare it to the official Amazon Music HD app on iPad for example. Probably the same API limitation BluOS has.
Niktech Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, rand129678 said: That UI looks quite limited, when you compare it to the official Amazon Music HD app on iPad for example. Probably the same API limitation BluOS has. It’s the standard interface/wrapper that Auralic provides for each of the streaming services in it’s ecosystem. Maybe just google Lightning DS screenshots. Most people like it on IOS . It does look better on IPadOS. Edited December 27, 2021 by Niktech
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