Jsen18 Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Now, it's like best of both worlds without breaking the banks. Thanks bro for the recommendation, I'll be trialing a Viard coax too. Btw, we've not promoting fake cables but rather, it's a trial & error stuff. Edited August 27, 2021 by Jsen18 1
Hytram Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 Whichever switch you do go with, you will hear improvements in implementation of QoS with RFC2549 over RFC1149... Your tweeters will never sound better 3
MattyW Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 Not promoting them no, merely saying I've found them to be very good
Assisi Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 10 hours ago, TDX said: But I need to experience is a good & cheap ethernet cable to go with it? "Good"" and "cheap" are relative terms. As well something that is cheap probably will not be good what ever that may be. Interestiungly the cables that I now use are half the cost of Audioquest Diamond that I previously used. I consider them better than the AQ. It all comes down to trying various cables and how much you want to spend. John
Jsen18 Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) After doing some research, Viard Hd & AIM Electronic (AE) Lan cables caught my interest. Some says AE is better than AQ but it might not match my system. As for Viard HD, I was using their Silver usb cable previously. I might say their ethernet cables might suit my taste better if there's a resale unit. Edited August 28, 2021 by Jsen18
MattyW Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 I did find the fake Nordost Odin was a little bright initially, though with no grain so still listenable. After leaving music streaming for two days though the brightness is gone. Just incredible fine detail adding to overall realism. 1
Jsen18 Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, MattyW said: I did find the fake Nordost Odin was a little bright initially, though with no grain so still listenable. After leaving music streaming for two days though the brightness is gone. Just incredible fine detail adding to overall realism. Has just ordered 1m to try out. Hope it'll stop the itch & save some $$ to get a better coax. 1
MattyW Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) Too much silver in a system messes with the sound , though a little here and there gives incredible insight into the music. Just switched out my silver USB for a Curious Evolved..... See if I like the curious better with the Nordost Odin CAT8 in the chain. Such subtle changes at this stage but makes the difference between enjoyment and boredom Edited August 28, 2021 by MattyW
BugPowderDust Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 16 hours ago, Hytram said: Whichever switch you do go with, you will hear improvements in implementation of QoS with RFC2549 over RFC1149... Your tweeters will never sound better Haha. A joke for only those in the know. I love the references
TDX Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Assisi said: "Good"" and "cheap" are relative terms. As well something that is cheap probably will not be good what ever that may be. Interestiungly the cables that I now use are half the cost of Audioquest Diamond that I previously used. I consider them better than the AQ. It all comes down to trying various cables and how much you want to spend. John Which one are you using now? AR?
Assisi Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, TDX said: Which one are you using now? AR? Not AR. I buy my cables from Sound Gallery in Mackinnon in Melbourne. John the owner makes the cables up from bulk Acoustic Revive red cable terminated with Telegartner plugs. Serious outcome. Approx half the cost of the AR Diamond. John
TDX Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Assisi said: Not AR. I buy my cables from Sound Gallery in Mackinnon in Melbourne. John the owner makes the cables up from bulk Acoustic Revive red cable terminated with Telegartner plugs. Serious outcome. Approx half the cost of the AR Diamond. John Sorry I mean AR for acoustic revive. Didn’t realise the other one was AR (audio request) as well
Stereophilus Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Jsen18 said: Has just ordered 1m to try out. Hope it'll stop the itch & save some $$ to get a better coax. Pretty sure the fake Nordost Odin Cat 8 is the same as this AmpCom cable.
MattyW Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 Watching that video.... It's not. The Nordost shields each individual strand separately
Bass13 Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 Doing some testing for myself, very soon. Lets see what the outcome will be... The Good, the Bad or The Ugly
Stereophilus Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, MattyW said: Watching that video.... It's not. The Nordost shields each individual strand separately Sorry, just to clarify, are you saying the Nordost or the fake Nordost shields each strand individually?
Assisi Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Assisi said: Not AR I should have said AQ for Audioquest. For me the Acoustic Revive Red from Sound Gallery are better John
MattyW Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Stereophilus said: Sorry, just to clarify, are you saying the Nordost or the fake Nordost shields each strand individually? Fake Nordost Odin. To my knowledge there is no Odin range of CAT8 cables 2
Jsen18 Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Stereophilus said: Pretty sure the fake Nordost Odin Cat 8 is the same as this AmpCom cable. I hope not as I'm using AmpCom Cat8 between my router & switch.
Stereophilus Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jsen18 said: I hope not as I'm using AmpCom Cat8 between my router & switch. You will probably be in the best position to let us all know when you get it then!
Jsen18 Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 58 minutes ago, Stereophilus said: You will probably be in the best position to let us all know when you get it then! Yea sir.
Hydrology Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 18 hours ago, MattyW said: Fake Nordost Odin. To my knowledge there is no Odin range of CAT8 cables Correct, there is a new Valhalla 2 CAT8 cable however. 1
MattyW Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 4 hours ago, Hydrology said: Correct, there is a new Valhalla 2 CAT8 cable however. The construction of the cable itself actually looks very similar. No idea if the thickness of the silver plating is the same though I rather doubt it. Interestingly as these burned in I was able to put the Gothic Audio Semperfi "The Outsider" USB cable back in. To my ears these are noticeably better than the Curious Evolved.
dbastin Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 28/08/2021 at 6:04 PM, MattyW said: The Nordost shields each individual strand separately How did you reach this conclusion? Also, the Nordost website does not seem to mention the material used for the conductors of the Valhalla 2 ethernet cable.
MattyW Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, dbastin said: How did you reach this conclusion? Also, the Nordost website does not seem to mention the material used for the conductors of the Valhalla 2 ethernet cable. It's explained on the material on their site. Silver plated copper, shielding wrapped around the wire in such a way resistance is similar to an air dialectic both improving conductivity and reducing interference. Copying this structure is why I was interested in trying the fakes in the first place. Sounds pretty unique to me Edited August 29, 2021 by MattyW
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