BLAH BLAH Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, thethrowback said: He is not a renowned singer but he does warble a tune now and then. Some of his efforts can be found on YouTube and Discogs. A couple of other people came to mind as I was cooking lunch: Don Henley and Glenn Frey. Do people cook Lunch?!? I thought sangers were for lunch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thethrowback Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I'm proud of myself as I knocked up a sweet potato frittata and it tastes yummy. The way things are going I will be on MasterChef! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinilink Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Walter Becker, John Forgerty, Jim Morrison, GeorgeBenson... too many to list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHC Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) Lionel Richie is a very successful singer song-writer. John Legend as well. In a band context Don Henley and Glenn Frey wrote most of the Eagles hit songs, and worth a mention. As for female there are Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Dolly Parton, Alicia Keys etc. Edited July 24, 2021 by LHC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesbee Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Anybody mention Paul Simon yet? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, emesbee said: Anybody mention Paul Simon yet? I am pleased you mentioned him. It made me feel better. I was feeling really queasy when someone suggested Lionel Richie 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHC Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, emesbee said: Anybody mention Paul Simon yet? He was mentioned in an early post by @brumby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHC Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, rantan said: I was feeling really queasy when someone suggested Lionel Richie Why? Lionel Richie was the 2016 recipient of The Johnny Mercer Award, the Songwriters Hall Of Fame’s highest honor. Surely that would qualify him in a discussion of the greatest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesbee Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, LHC said: He was mentioned in an early post by @brumby Indeed he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHC Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) It may be helpful to list the previous winners of the Johnny Mercer Award, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songwriters_Hall_of_Fame#Johnny_Mercer_Award The Johnny Mercer Award is the highest honor bestowed by the event. It goes to writers already inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame for having established a history of outstanding creative works 1980 – Frank Sinatra 1981 – Yip Harburg 1982 – Harold Arlen 1983 – Sammy Cahn 1985 – Alan Jay Lerner 1986 – Mitchell Parish 1987 – Jerry Herman 1990 – Jerry Bock & Sheldon Harnick 1991 – Betty Comden & Adolph Green 1992 – Burton Lane 1993 – Jule Styne 1994 – Irving Caesar 1995 – Cy Coleman 1996 – Burt Bacharach & Hal David 1997 – Alan and Marilyn Bergman 1998 – Paul Simon 1999 – Stephen Sondheim 2000 – Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller 2001 – Billy Joel 2002 – Carole King 2003 – Jimmy Webb 2004 – Stevie Wonder 2005 – Smokey Robinson 2006 – Kris Kristofferson 2007 – Dolly Parton 2008 – Paul Anka 2009 – Holland–Dozier–Holland 2010 – Phil Collins 2011 – Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil 2013 – Elton John & Bernie Taupin 2014 – Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff 2015 – Van Morrison 2016 – Lionel Richie 2017 – Alan Menken 2018 – Neil Diamond 2019 – Carole Bayer Sager 2020 - Paul Williams I underlined in the list the American singer song-writers. Note that this list is dominated by acclaimed song writers, so it is a unique honor for a singer to win this award. Notably though Bob Dylan has not yet won this award, but he could in the future. EDIT: removed Van Morrison as he is not strictly an American Edited July 24, 2021 by LHC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe67 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) Stan Ridgeway , Lana Del Ray Edited July 24, 2021 by cafe67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripitaka Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, LHC said: It may be helpful to list the previous winners of the Johnny Mercer Award, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songwriters_Hall_of_Fame#Johnny_Mercer_Award The Johnny Mercer Award is the highest honor bestowed by the event. It goes to writers already inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame for having established a history of outstanding creative works 1980 – Frank Sinatra 1981 – Yip Harburg 1982 – Harold Arlen 1983 – Sammy Cahn 1985 – Alan Jay Lerner 1986 – Mitchell Parish 1987 – Jerry Herman 1990 – Jerry Bock & Sheldon Harnick 1991 – Betty Comden & Adolph Green 1992 – Burton Lane 1993 – Jule Styne 1994 – Irving Caesar 1995 – Cy Coleman 1996 – Burt Bacharach & Hal David 1997 – Alan and Marilyn Bergman 1998 – Paul Simon 1999 – Stephen Sondheim 2000 – Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller 2001 – Billy Joel 2002 – Carole King 2003 – Jimmy Webb 2004 – Stevie Wonder 2005 – Smokey Robinson 2006 – Kris Kristofferson 2007 – Dolly Parton 2008 – Paul Anka 2009 – Holland–Dozier–Holland 2010 – Phil Collins 2011 – Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil 2013 – Elton John & Bernie Taupin 2014 – Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff 2015 – Van Morrison 2016 – Lionel Richie 2017 – Alan Menken 2018 – Neil Diamond 2019 – Carole Bayer Sager 2020 - Paul Williams I underlined in the list the American singer song-writers. Note that this list is dominated by acclaimed song writers, so it is a unique honor for a singer to win this award. Notably though Bob Dylan has not yet won this award, but he could in the future. It's a good list, no doubt. I'd only observe that Van Morrison isn't normally regarded as American - but it is true that he made his name there with his Astral Weeks album an enduring influence on music. Anyway, if Neil Young is eligible then I'm now voting for Van Morrison Honorary mentions to Joni Mitchell, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan, Nina Simone, Neil Diamond and MANY others 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekyboy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, LHC said: It may be helpful to list the previous winners of the Johnny Mercer Award, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songwriters_Hall_of_Fame#Johnny_Mercer_Award The Johnny Mercer Award is the highest honor bestowed by the event. It goes to writers already inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame for having established a history of outstanding creative works 1980 – Frank Sinatra 1981 – Yip Harburg 1982 – Harold Arlen 1983 – Sammy Cahn 1985 – Alan Jay Lerner 1986 – Mitchell Parish 1987 – Jerry Herman 1990 – Jerry Bock & Sheldon Harnick 1991 – Betty Comden & Adolph Green 1992 – Burton Lane 1993 – Jule Styne 1994 – Irving Caesar 1995 – Cy Coleman 1996 – Burt Bacharach & Hal David 1997 – Alan and Marilyn Bergman 1998 – Paul Simon 1999 – Stephen Sondheim 2000 – Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller 2001 – Billy Joel 2002 – Carole King 2003 – Jimmy Webb 2004 – Stevie Wonder 2005 – Smokey Robinson 2006 – Kris Kristofferson 2007 – Dolly Parton 2008 – Paul Anka 2009 – Holland–Dozier–Holland 2010 – Phil Collins 2011 – Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil 2013 – Elton John & Bernie Taupin 2014 – Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff 2015 – Van Morrison 2016 – Lionel Richie 2017 – Alan Menken 2018 – Neil Diamond 2019 – Carole Bayer Sager 2020 - Paul Williams I underlined in the list the American singer song-writers. Note that this list is dominated by acclaimed song writers, so it is a unique honor for a singer to win this award. Notably though Bob Dylan has not yet won this award, but he could in the future. A couple that jump out but aren’t underlined is Burt Bacharach and Hal David, who I’m pretty sure are Americans. Sinatra was a great singer, but did he write many songs? Cheers, Keith 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Snow Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I voted Prince of course as that is where my heart is - but I totally understand why Bob is in the lead - *respect* 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHC Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, cheekyboy said: Sinatra was a great singer, but did he write many songs? Good point, I was surprised to see him on the list as well. According to the citation here (https://www.johnnymercerfoundation.org/johnny-mercer/songwriters-hall-of-fame/) it appears to be an honorary recognition for his support of songwriters. In 1980, The Johnny Mercer Award was created in his memory. It was originally to honor excellence in lyric writing, but was later expanded to include composers as well. Frank Sinatra was the first winner of The Johnny Mercer Award. Not only was he a champion of songwriters, but he wrote the lyrics to some hit songs himself (“I’m a Fool to Want You” and “This Love of Mine”). About songwriters Frank was once quoted as saying, “If it weren’t for you fellas, I’d be pushing pencils in Hoboken.” He later became chairman of the board of The Songwriters Hall of Fame, where he held this title from 1993-1998. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripitaka Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, cheekyboy said: A couple that jump out but aren’t underlined is Burt Bacharach and Hal David, who I’m pretty sure are Americans. Sinatra was a great singer, but did he write many songs? Cheers, Keith If we go there, Elvis Presley wrote a few songs, but was obviously more of a vocalist. Burt B is at the other end of the spectrum, I think. Suppose the OP is looking for someone who covers both bases. Course it gets rather tricky once you have to tease the individual contribution from the brilliant bands that surround them, but then we can't get too scientific about this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemarquis Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Dylan. Hands down. There is a reason he won the Nobel. Listen to Murder Most Foul. A novel in a song. And that's his latest... like Now. Choosing just one is hard, I like a lot of them and many more. We all have our favourite authors but at the same time can't deny that Shakespeare is the Giant. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Pfffft not one vote for Weird Al. Call yourselves enthusiasts 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesbee Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, cheekyboy said: A couple that jump out but aren’t underlined is Burt Bacharach and Hal David, who I’m pretty sure are Americans. Sinatra was a great singer, but did he write many songs? Cheers, Keith Just a handful, which he co-wrote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Frank_Sinatra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, LHC said: It may be helpful to list the previous winners of the Johnny Mercer Award, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songwriters_Hall_of_Fame#Johnny_Mercer_Award Love the fact that all these great artists are linked with the name that gave us "hooray for hollywood '' So hard to judge the big picture ; whether the criteria is how prolific the artist or influence in a genre or number of hit songs in the billboard 100 or something.... As it is also influenced by the age of the one judging I was happy to see Neil Diamond mentioned as he also wrote classic pop songs for the Monkees If Burt Bacharach and Hal David is permitted I would link the careers of Petula Clark ; Dionne Warwick , Gene Pitney and Dusty Springfield to varying degrees [not just vague influences but actual hit songs is what I like ,,,] Influential on others though as a criteria Dylan is the pick; love the introspective Doors like melody 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHC Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) A bit off topic The American songwriters mentioned in the award list above (2011 – Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil) wrote a piece that Rick Beato ranked as the most complex pop song ever Edited July 26, 2021 by LHC 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Snow Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 10 hours ago, lemarquis said: Dylan. Hands down. There is a reason he won the Nobel. Listen to Murder Most Foul. A novel in a song. And that's his latest... like Now. Choosing just one is hard, I like a lot of them and many more. We all have our favourite authors but at the same time can't deny that Shakespeare is the Giant. Yes that is why I understand Dylan would be the top one on the voting - even though overall I am not a fan apart from the Greatest Hits material as I find it is not "musical" enough for me but more poetic - but I do not deny his ranking as you said Shakespeare is a Giant too & yet I do not read his work either. I chose Prince as he picks all my boxes that I enjoy and he will always be my "numero uno" or as he says "on the one" or "Ain't nobody can do it like Prince can"........... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntj377 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Robert Pollard. Over 100 albums and averaging three albums a year of songs that get well and truly under the skin. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemarquis Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 hours ago, April Snow said: Yes that is why I understand Dylan would be the top one on the voting - even though overall I am not a fan apart from the Greatest Hits material as I find it is not "musical" enough for me but more poetic - but I do not deny his ranking as you said Shakespeare is a Giant too & yet I do not read his work either. I chose Prince as he picks all my boxes that I enjoy and he will always be my "numero uno" or as he says "on the one" or "Ain't nobody can do it like Prince can"........... I think Prince is a genius. No question... On Dylan I am / was in the same boat. But listening to his new album has been an eye opener. Also his recent webcast (Shadow Kingdom) featuring a lot of his older stuff. Re visited it sounds very fresh. Both are on high rotation here lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill451 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 voted for Dylan but honourable mentions to Carole King, Townes Van Zandt and Tom Waits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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