Bones90 Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 Hey folks, Thanks to @betty boop I'm convinced to drop thoughts of the JVC NZ3 or the Optoma range for true 4k projectors. I've read some very differing views and opinions between these two - What's everyone's take on going with either the DLA-N5 vs. Sony VPL-VW270ES? Based on overall image sharpness and picture quality, brightness and contrast, features, etc. I know that can be a subjective question since most people prefer different types of pictures and value different aspects, but overall, what's everyone's thoughts? Is the N5 a worth upgrade from the 270ES? Assuming both were within the same ball-park price range, which would you go for and why? Thanks! 1
betty boop Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) the 270es is really now superseded by the 290es with the I beleive inclusion of X1 for projector chip for better handling of 4k hdr. it does lack any sort of iris though, neither manual or dynamic so cant have the contrast control those provide like in the model up 570es or 590es. as far as n5 vs 270es, I think in the other thread already mentioned most differences... to perhaps spell them out clearly again... I think both projectors will do excellent results for SDR blu-ray or FTA/DVD. both are native 4k for 4k hdr. neither have a p3 filter for WCG... have to look higher in the jvc range n7 or n9 for that sony 270es has no iris at all, no manual or dynamic iris so you have to use lamp power to set peak luminance. you cant crank the iris down to set for SDR or HDR. you also dont have a dynamic iris so cant take advantage of dynamic contrast capability you get with models such as further up in the range.... 570es/590es lumens wise the 270es is on the lower side so while fine likely for SDR it will likely need to run on high lamp for HDR to achieve 30FL on 100" + screens. the jvc n5 has greater lumens output and will cater more for larger screens and coupled with DTM for HDR without necessarily needing high lamp. Dynamic tone mapping(DTM),. the 270es doesnt have this... so need an external device to either do static or dynamic tone mapping eg using source devices or expensive lumagen. the jvc n5 comes with dynamic tone mapping on board making for set forget HDR and it also factors in lamp so you can actually run relatively low in luminance and still get away with things eg as low as 22FL as calibrators have found overseas. this feature on the JVC is a pretty major deal when comes to 4k uhd and HDR. Contrast... the jvc is a contrast king, the sony is lower in native contrast capability but still able to do an excellent picture inter pixel gap, jvc went further in reducing this wiht this generation even though were already better than the competition... giving them and even smoother look to picture than prior. the sony also use a bit of processing and you end up with a bit more of a digital look to the picture in the sony vs more smoother analog look to the jvc...check them out for self to appreciate... both of these are lamp projectors so factor in lamps depending on usage... the JVC n5 like the sony 270es is a larger form factor projector so factor in a decent mount like the peerless or storm factor in a pro calibration with both id suggest. the jvc with its DTM you can actually pretty much plug in projection parameters you have and end up with a decent result for 4k HDR. But to get best from it would suggest pro calibration with both. price wise the 270es is on run out ...so might be a tad cheaper, but with negotiation, i suspect be nothing between 270es and n5 price wise when comes down to it. in my humble option though you really need to compare the sony 570es/590es to jvc n5 on performance just given factors of lumens and iris... they would be a closer match performance wise with the JVC having DTM, contrast and finer interpixel gap as advantage. neither still would have the p3 filter for wcg which need to look at n7 and n9 jvcs to get. Edited June 29, 2021 by betty boop 1
Bones90 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Posted June 29, 2021 Thanks again @betty boop Assuming prices are equal (at $7000 AUD) with all things being considered, would you then go for the N5 over the 270ES? In terms of bulbs replacements, how are each roughly priced?
Black Orange Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 I don't rate the following publication too highly, but the JVC was preferred to Sony 590. https://www.whathifi.com/au/advice/jvc-dla-n5-vs-sony-vpl-vw590es-which-4k-projector-should-you-buy So I believe it should easily better Sony 270. 2
betty boop Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bones90 said: Thanks again @betty boop Assuming prices are equal (at $7000 AUD) with all things being considered, would you then go for the N5 over the 270ES? In terms of bulbs replacements, how are each roughly priced? i would go the jvc n5 as really its more comparable with the upper model sony 570/590es and still has advantages over those. re bulbs shop around. you might be able to get one discounted, i was lucky to get one thrown in with a jvc promotion at the time. the jvc bulb rp is around $1k and have seen the sony 600es bulb also around same price. 270es might be a little cheaper ? dont know ask.... but as i mentioned in the other thread. if you are looking at something watching say 5-7 movies a week you still wouldnt need a new lamp even in 5 years ! ive changed projectors every 3-5 years and never had to need a new lamp yet if deciding to use projector days in day out for everyday TV and such ...perhaps a cheaper projector like one of the benq or lower priced epson might be go and the lamp fo epson for instance is $150 or something. there are cheaper 3rd party "OEM" lamps but none of them i have sene have the capability in output of the original lamps ie tend to be 25-30% down on output. so given lack of frequency of changing lamps...sticking to original is my plan 1
betty boop Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Black Orange said: I don't rate the following publication too highly, but the JVC was preferred to Sony 590. https://www.whathifi.com/au/advice/jvc-dla-n5-vs-sony-vpl-vw590es-which-4k-projector-should-you-buy So I believe it should easily better Sony 270. have high respect for the avforums reviews when comes to projectors and they did a good one below comparing the 590es and the n5 https://www.avforums.com/reviews/sony-vpl-vw590es-4k-sxrd-projector-review.18284 they call out quite well all the performance comparisons between the two models. the main problem with the sony 570/590es is the jvc n5 is better and cheaper and you can get a JVC n7 for about the same price ! we are lucky here they both go for same price making choosing easier Edited June 29, 2021 by betty boop 2
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