titactoh Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 Only mutton soups Chinese style or Indian style are availble. Anyone know if there is any outlet selling Goat meat in Singapore? If not in Singapore does anyone know if it is available in JB and the outlets. Thank you.
dong Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) Bro, are you looking for raw goat's meat or prepared dishes that contain goat's meat? For either, you can go down to Tekka market. There are many stalls who sell raw goat's meat at the meat section, whatever cut/s or minced. At the cooked food section, you can go for goat's meat biryani, murtabak with minced goat's meat, mutton soup or even mee goreng with minced goat's meat or mutton chops with fries, etc. And at any of the many Indian restaurants, a variety of goat's meat dishes, too many to mention. BTW, goat's meat is also known as mutton here. Cheers and Bon Appetite. Edited October 19, 2020 by dong spelling
titactoh Posted October 20, 2020 Author Posted October 20, 2020 14 hours ago, dong said: Bro, are you looking for raw goat's meat or prepared dishes that contain goat's meat? For either, you can go down to Tekka market. There are many stalls who sell raw goat's meat at the meat section, whatever cut/s or minced. At the cooked food section, you can go for goat's meat biryani, murtabak with minced goat's meat, mutton soup or even mee goreng with minced goat's meat or mutton chops with fries, etc. And at any of the many Indian restaurants, a variety of goat's meat dishes, too many to mention. BTW, goat's meat is also known as mutton here. Cheers and Bon Appetite. Thank you for sharing. It is prepared dish and what I am looking for is not mutton from sheep but mutton from mountain goat.
dong Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, titactoh said: Thank you for sharing. It is prepared dish and what I am looking for is not mutton from sheep but mutton from mountain goat. Most, if not all, prepared mutton dishes are of goat's meat in the Little India area. Sheep's meat in this area is called lamb for some reason and one must specify that one wants lamb's meat if it is preferred but only at the raw meat shops. As for mountain goat's meat, I doubt that it is available here unless some vendor tries to pull a fast one on you with an interesting story. I believe all goat's meat here are from goats reared in S'pore or Malaysia. You can see the goats reared here in the Lim Chu Kang area. I don't think that the goats, reared for meat and milk, in S'pore or Malaysia are of the mountain goat variety as I am not familiar with the breeds. If you want to eat a decent goat's (kid) meat biryani, you may visit this shop - Bismillah Biryani Restaurant at 50 Dunlop Street. Cheers
titactoh Posted October 20, 2020 Author Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, dong said: Most, if not all, prepared mutton dishes are of goat's meat in the Little India area. Sheep's meat in this area is called lamb for some reason and one must specify that one wants lamb's meat if it is preferred but only at the raw meat shops. As for mountain goat's meat, I doubt that it is available here unless some vendor tries to pull a fast one on you with an interesting story. I believe all goat's meat here are from goats reared in S'pore or Malaysia. You can see the goats reared here in the Lim Chu Kang area. I don't think that the goats, reared for meat and milk, in S'pore or Malaysia are of the mountain goat variety as I am not familiar with the breeds. If you want to eat a decent goat's (kid) meat biryani, you may visit this shop - Bismillah Biryani Restaurant at 50 Dunlop Street. Cheers I think there is a need to clarify on sheep and goat. When I mention Mountain goat it was just to distinguish goat from sheep. The latter is usually what we associate and see being raised in NZ and Australia. The goat is the specie with a beard and short tail. I know Hay's goat farm rear goat for its milk. I was checking around if there are outlets or restaurants that serve goat dishes in Sg. So you confirm Bismillah Biryani Reataurant in Dunlop Street. Thank you very much for your contribution and effort. Much appreciated. Imjust checked and it is close on Tuesday. Seems from review that it does not serve Kid Goat briyani every day though it is a staple on Sunday. Need to call them to check what other days that it is available. Would prefer to buyn back and enjoy eating at home with C19 around. Thanks once again. that I have a source for my fix.
titactoh Posted October 21, 2020 Author Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 2:44 PM, dong said: Most, if not all, prepared mutton dishes are of goat's meat in the Little India area. Sheep's meat in this area is called lamb for some reason and one must specify that one wants lamb's meat if it is preferred but only at the raw meat shops. As for mountain goat's meat, I doubt that it is available here unless some vendor tries to pull a fast one on you with an interesting story. I believe all goat's meat here are from goats reared in S'pore or Malaysia. You can see the goats reared here in the Lim Chu Kang area. I don't think that the goats, reared for meat and milk, in S'pore or Malaysia are of the mountain goat variety as I am not familiar with the breeds. If you want to eat a decent goat's (kid) meat biryani, you may visit this shop - Bismillah Biryani Restaurant at 50 Dunlop Street. Cheers I think there is a need to clarify on sheep and goat. When I mention Mountain goat it was just to distinguish goat from sheep. The latter is usually what we associate and see being raised in NZ and Australia. The goat is the specie with a beard and short tail. I know Hay's goat farm rear goat for its milk. I was checking around if there are outlets or restaurants that serve goat dishes in Sg. So you confirm Bismillah Biryani Reataurant in Dunlop Street. Thank you very much for your contribution and effort. Much appreciated. Imjust checked and it is close on Tuesday. Seems from review that it does not serve Kid Goat briyani every day though it is a staple on Sunday. Need to call them to check what other days that it is available. Would prefer to buyn back and enjoy eating at home with C19 around. Thanks once again. that I have a source for my fix. I checked with the 50 Dunlop Street on the days they serve Kid Goat and the lady caashier told me they serve every day and what they serve is the young of Lamb. So its young sheep. She did not mention young of Goat. Anyway wil give it a try sice the location is a few minutes away from Jalan Besar Mrt.
luohan108 Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 I checked with the 50 Dunlop Street on the days they serve Kid Goat and the lady caashier told me they serve every day and what they serve is the young of Lamb. So its young sheep. She did not mention young of Goat. Anyway wil give it a try sice the location is a few minutes away from Jalan Besar Mrt.
Guest jonlee Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 young sheep = lamb old sheep = mutton goat = mutton Majority of mutton import is from Australia (86%) and New Zealand (8%). 99+% of import are from sheep 30% (24 million US$): 020442 - Meat of sheep (excl. lamb & carcasses), frozen, bone-in 26% (20 million US$): 020443 - Meat of sheep (excl. lamb), frozen, boneless 22% (17.8 million US$): 020441 - Carcasses/half-carcasses of sheep (excl. lamb), frozen 8.52% (6.68 million US$): 020422 - Meat of sheep (excl. lamb & carcasses), fresh/chilled, bone-in 4.18% (3.28 million US$): 020423 - Meat of sheep (excl. lamb), fresh/chilled, boneless 3.41% (2.67 million US$): 020410 - Carcasses/half-carcasses of lamb, fresh/chilled 2.15% (1.69 million US$): 020421 - Carcasses/half-carcasses of sheep (excl. lamb), fresh/chilled 1.28% (1.01 million US$): 020430 - Carcasses/half-carcasses of lamb, frozen 0.608% (477 thousand US$): 020450 - Meat of goats, fresh/chilled/frozen So, I would think majority of prepared mutton is from old sheep, with the limited supply of mutton from goat.
titactoh Posted October 22, 2020 Author Posted October 22, 2020 4 hours ago, jonlee said: young sheep = lamb old sheep = mutton goat = mutton Majority of mutton import is from Australia (86%) and New Zealand (8%). 99+% of import are from sheep 30% (24 million US$): 020442 - Meat of sheep (excl. lamb & carcasses), frozen, bone-in 26% (20 million US$): 020443 - Meat of sheep (excl. lamb), frozen, boneless 22% (17.8 million US$): 020441 - Carcasses/half-carcasses of sheep (excl. lamb), frozen 8.52% (6.68 million US$): 020422 - Meat of sheep (excl. lamb & carcasses), fresh/chilled, bone-in 4.18% (3.28 million US$): 020423 - Meat of sheep (excl. lamb), fresh/chilled, boneless 3.41% (2.67 million US$): 020410 - Carcasses/half-carcasses of lamb, fresh/chilled 2.15% (1.69 million US$): 020421 - Carcasses/half-carcasses of sheep (excl. lamb), fresh/chilled 1.28% (1.01 million US$): 020430 - Carcasses/half-carcasses of lamb, frozen 0.608% (477 thousand US$): 020450 - Meat of goats, fresh/chilled/frozen So, I would think majority of prepared mutton is from old sheep, with the limited supply of mutton from goat. Interesting detail of mutton imports. Looks like goat meat is served only in fine dining restaurants. So only is to check with friends in JB whether any restaurant there serve goat dishes.
lynx Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 Just for trivia, goat meat is known as "Chevon".
Guest jonlee Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 Saw this price list in FB. Goat and lamp same price. Mutton cheaper. Haji : M.N. Shahul Hameed Marketing Fresh Lamb (Bone-In) @ $32.00 /kg Fresh Lamb Boneless @ $36.00 /kg Fresh Lamb Chops / Cutlets @ $34.00 /kg Fresh Lamb Ribs @ $26.00 /kg Fresh Lamb Keema @ $36.00 /kg Fresh Goat (Bone-In) @ $32.00 /kg Fresh Goat Boneless @ $36.00 /kg Fresh Goat Chops / Cutlets @ $34.00 /kg Fresh Goat Ribs @ $26.00 /kg Fresh Goat Keema @ $36.00 /kg Fresh Mutton (Bone-In) @ $26.00 /kg Fresh Mutton Boneless @ $30.00 /kg Fresh Mutton Ribs @ $24.00 /kg Fresh Mutton Keema @ $30.00 /kg Fresh Mutton Marrow Bone (Tulang) @ $12 /kg Fresh Lamb / Mutton Tripe @ $12.00 /kg Fresh Lamb / Mutton Liver @ $12.00 half kg
Boxerfan88 Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 Out of curiosity, what are the difference between old sheep meat vs goat meat? Taste? Texture? Smell? Flavour?
dong Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 Hello, it seems this topic has attracted a few people and turned very interesting and educational for self . Anyway, I just called Bismillah Biryani Restaurant in Dunlop Street - 6935 1326 and the lady informed me that it is indeed kid goat for the mutton briyani and that the kid goat meat (tender & juicy, she said) is from Australia . They do serve lamb meat as well but those are different dishes. Ok, my experience eating this kid goat briyani was that the meat was indeed tender but I felt that it was slightly dry but it was also very tasty. As for the slightly dry bit, I had it around 3pm+ as a late lunch so it is possible that while sitting in the pot for so long, it may have lost some of its juicy-ness? What I did not appreciate was that they served it with 'raita' instead of 'dalcha'. Perhaps I could have requested for 'dalcha' and believe, if they had, would have obliged. However, some may prefer 'raita', so to each his own. Cheers
dong Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Boxerfan88 said: Out of curiosity, what are the difference between old sheep meat vs goat meat? Taste? Texture? Smell? Flavour? I seldom eat red meat nowadays and it has been some time I had sheep/lamb, identified before consumption, so if memory serves me, sheep/lamb taste, flavour and smell is a little milder than goat's meat. Texture wise, its about the same, again if memory serves me well. Another place where I believe one can get goat's meat briyani is at blk 17 Beach Road, opposite the hawker centre. The shop has not signage, only a long queue. The actual vendor is situated inside the coffee shop so if you are very early, you need to ask the people at the coffee shop of its location. This briyani is quite decent and judging by the usual long queues, quite popular, especially on Fridays and Sundays. Cheers.
YANG Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 My impression on Goat is that they're skinny in built than sheeps. So... after cooked, sheep meats should be more meatier than goat meats right? Becos of lesser... fats?
Guest jonlee Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) For those who don't mind spending a bit more, Wakanui serves one of the best spring lamp chop at $10 a piece. The WAKANUI Spring Lamb Chop is the restaurant’s signature appetiser, and it’s made from lambs born in late winter. These lambs feast on the first shoots of grass that emerge in early Spring and produce very lean muscles. They are then processed at six months old (before they grow into adulthood), and as a result, the meat lacks the gamey taste that so many people associate with lamb. The meat is wet-aged long enough for enzymes to tenderise the meat, and then flash frozen so it retains the same quality and flavour all year-round. In the kitchen at WAKANUI, the lamb is grilled over binchotan charcoal imported from Japan, with no flare, and seasoned with Christmas Island salt; pink, black and white pepper; and fine coriander powder. Edited October 22, 2020 by jonlee
Guest plasmasiao Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 4:42 PM, dong said: I seldom eat red meat nowadays and it has been some time I had sheep/lamb, identified before consumption, so if memory serves me, sheep/lamb taste, flavour and smell is a little milder than goat's meat. Texture wise, its about the same, again if memory serves me well. Another place where I believe one can get goat's meat briyani is at blk 17 Beach Road, opposite the hawker centre. The shop has not signage, only a long queue. The actual vendor is situated inside the coffee shop so if you are very early, you need to ask the people at the coffee shop of its location. This briyani is quite decent and judging by the usual long queues, quite popular, especially on Fridays and Sundays. Cheers The beach road store served very nice biryani indeed.
jimi1624705950 Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 Its 3rd hand information (a friend spoke to a Tekka market stall owner friend) but apparently what passes for lamb and mutton depends on how much the seller thinks they can get for it. Mutton from a sheep is cheaper and gamier meat than from the same animal when it is young (a lamb). So they will sell mutton for the cheaper price (foreleg or rear leg), if the customer wants lamb then they sell them the foreleg of mutton as it is smaller and looks like it came from a lamb. I would hate to find out the above is true but I think there is more than an element of truth to it. Lamb is usually much less gamy and with a finer grain and mouth feel. Lamb (less than 1yr old)-> lamb meat Yearling (1-2 yr old sheep)-> yearling mutton Mutton (2-3 yr old sheep)-> mutton.
jdc115 Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 Goat curry is quite popular in Jamaica, you can find it at The Lime House, though it is an upscale place http://www.limehouse.asia/#menu
titactoh Posted June 6, 2021 Author Posted June 6, 2021 Bismillah Biryani Restaurant in Dunlop Street - 6935 1326 and the lady informed me that it is indeed kid goat for the mutton briyani and that the kid goat meat (tender & juicy, she said) They now have home delivery. Ordered a set yesterday 5 June. No taste of mutton, rib bone very thin and fine. Most likely small lamb. Personally find it very delicious and satisfying. Though bismatic rice dry nevertheless acceptable to me as I have English tea to go with it. Will certainly buy again for sure..
dsj88 Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) I suspect most mutton in Singapore is goat except in restaurants where they serve lamb cutlets and chops as lamb is very expensive even here in Australia. Edited June 8, 2021 by dsj88
Cloth Ears Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 On 01/12/2020 at 8:44 PM, jimi1624705950 said: Lamb (less than 1yr old)-> lamb meat Yearling (1-2 yr old sheep)-> yearling mutton Mutton (2-3 yr old sheep)-> mutton. Sheep meat from 1-2 years is known as hogget, but as most people will go 'what?' when you use that term, it's explained as 'yearling lamb'. The richness of flavour increases as the animal gets older, but it's also tougher. Fantastic for slow-cooked dishes, but not much chop (did you see what I did there?) for faster dishes. Not much hogget or mutton available in Australia, unfortunately, as everyone seems to want texture instead of flavour... 1
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