Guest JohnA Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) yep, thats right.... i find i am listening more and more to the mambo with spu cart as i enjoy the nice colouration this combo brings to the music. As much as i love the so called accuracy of the system when at its best i find i am enjoying music and more of it more with the slightly coloured sound. I'll throw even the worse recorded albums on there and still enjoy them. So as most will know the speakers are back up on sale, and depending how that goes, i am also thinking to put the HRX up for sale along with the moon pre amp, then go with a nice integrated. Time will tell though, and it all depends on what happens with the sale of the octagons. Edited January 7, 2013 by JohnA
Gordon Macfarlane Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 Been there myself John ie downgrade to get a more musically involving sound but eventually found myself hankering for more. It can end up being a very expensive exercise to get back to where you were b4 the downgrade. Perhaps a second system in the same room : Linn turntable , quality valve integrated and some high efficiency speakers.
firefly0071 Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 I am thinking of selling my second system (speakers, pre-am and power amp) but the realisation of the financial loss would hurt.
JeffK Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 yep, thats right.... i find i am listening more and more to the mambo with spu cart as i enjoy the nice colouration this combo brings to the music. As much as i love the so called accuracy of the system when at its best i find i am enjoying music and more of it more with the slightly coloured sound. I'll throw even the worse recorded albums on there and still enjoy them. So as most will know the speakers are back up on sale, and depending how that goes, i am also thinking to put the HRX up for sale along with the moon pre amp, then go with a nice integrated. Time will tell though, and it all depends on what happens with the sale of the octagons. If you could just leave your gear in your garage I'll send someone around to pick it up. Promise we won't scratch the Roc!
Chill3 Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 FWIW Go the second system, or even just start with alternate speakers that run of that wonderful SPU I to got rid of a top line system to down grade Hard to ever get back
Chill3 Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 O And playing Witham second system can be very very rewarding , try some second hand horns or cheep Ushers on a vintage amp The " main system" will always be there as back up so you can just have fun !
metal beat Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) JohnTube preamp BTW, you will tire of the beautiful spu sound as your only source. Edited January 6, 2013 by turntable 1
JeffK Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 OAnd playing Witham second system can be very very rewarding , try some second hand horns or cheep Ushers on a vintage amp The " main system" will always be there as back up so you can just have fun ! If you saw my setup you would know I agree here - I've got about n combination where n>~10.
Hergest Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) I reckon we all go through this once or twice and i imagine you are feeling it bad at the moment as those SGRs as wonderful as i'm sure they are are proving difficult to sell. I've had a couple of occasions over the years when i've been away for an extended holiday taking only an old Sony Walkman and a handful of tapes with me and the music has been more enjoyable than sitting in front of the hifi. I've thought when i've come home that i could flog off most of my gear and just enjoy music on even the simplest of systems. That mood tends to lift though once i fire up the big rig. Edited January 6, 2013 by Hergest
Guest JohnA Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 JohnTube preamp BTW, you will tire of the beautiful spu sound as your only source. Ah, but spu wont be the only source, will have 3 arms on that table the spu, the 103r, the mono cart and the lyra
betty boop Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 I'd suggest second system as well that way can indulge in more musicality of flavour that takes your fancy but not giving what have at present. and look in time whichever system you end up using more you can slowly come to realisation which one want to keep
GraemeB Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 JohnTube preamp BTW, you will tire of the beautiful spu sound as your only source. Tire of the SPU sound???? WASH your mouth out with soap young man!! I still have very fond memories of my last vinyl rig in Melbourne, mainly bought from the ever-entertaining Trev and Chris Lees! It has taken me a long time, and a lot of dosh (relatively speaking), to arrive at an analogue-sounding digital system. And, yes, it DOES involve warm glowy valves in the audio chain. John, I wish you well with your 'downgrade' process. I see you are covering all your bases sound-wise with your 3 arm solution!
Sentient Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 It's time to downgrade, when we are spending more time listening to what it 'sounds like' as opposed to enjoying the music. 2
Guest JohnA Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 no second system thats for sure. Moving the octagons in and out is not an easy task at all, and dont want more clutter, i hate clutter
bzr Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) Does Bose have phono? Hey John... Edited January 6, 2013 by groot
L J T Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 JohnA, I have done what you have described just recently. Although my gear was only very basic, I have gone from an active approach with multiple amplifiers, pre and dac, to a much simpler setup and still enjoy the system as a whole. Downsizing and downgrading are two completely different things 1
Guest JohnA Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 JohnA, I have done what you have described just recently. Although my gear was only very basic, I have gone from an active approach with multiple amplifiers, pre and dac, to a much simpler setup and still enjoy the system as a whole.Downsizing and downgrading are two completely different things yes, maybe downsizing would have been a better choice of words
GregWormald Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) It sounds (!) like you are starting to work out what you enjoy most about stereo--and it's the music. Good on ya. Rather than downsizing, which in my experience just leads to new upwards path in a slightly different direction, can you work out how to cross over to an equivalent place on the new path? This would shortcut some of the intervening stages and hopefully avoid some of the expense. I remember when listening to my daughter's new low cost system I found myself enjoying the music and getting more involved than when listening to my 'big rig'. It took me a while to work out what her little system was doing that my big one wasn't, and then even longer to work out how to improve on it. Good listening, whatever you decide. Greg Edited January 6, 2013 by GregWormald
Al Leece Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 Downsizing is a better word than downgrading; "simplifying" is possibly more appropriate. Aiming for a good all-round sound certainly is a different target to "accuracy", however that is defined. Who knows, maybe it is possible to get to the desired place with some combination of some of your equipment, as someone else has suggested? Personally, though, I think that it would be difficult to make what you have work to different ends as it would feel like you are taking steps backwards if you don't hear what you currently get from the system. That sound is, after all, what you once sought. Perhaps it is better to start again, albeit with the knowledge gained from your journey to date enabling you to start at a point of much better knowledge. Good luck on the new search!
Guest JohnA Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 simplifying is another good word to use... starting again is virtually what i will be doing, but as mentioned it all centers around the speakers selling, otherwise i'll just stick to what i have and be happy for many more years to come, and simply spend all the money on more vinyl and the odd new cart when its time for replacements. But yes, a good set of passive speakers, a good integrated, keep my current phono stage and 1 turntable with 3 arms 4 shelf rack is all thats required, a couple of sets of interconnects and job done
analog brother Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 it's the 'roc. taking up all of john's spare time and love. shane is right - you need valves. time for valves, whether they be in an integrated, pre or phonostage. and maybe, darker sounding cables. keep the hrx.
Guest kab Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 The Ayon Triton 3 is a nice tube integrated....if i was ever to downsize from pre/power.
Guest JohnA Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 The Ayon Triton 3 is a nice tube integrated....if i was ever to downsize from pre/power. the other one i was thinking of was the Synthesis action 100 with an inbuilt dac also, great value for money. Having heard it at tivoli, i was very impressed with its performance..
analog brother Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) i have a 40watt jadis orchestra valve integrated collecting dust. swap for hrx?.... i'll even drive down to deliver and pick-up Edited January 7, 2013 by analog brother
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