Catostylus Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 I think you'll find they are universally beloved.
firefly0071 Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 The UK economy is in terrible difficulty but bankers are doing well.
THOMO Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) The UK has reached a position in which around 52% of the population are nett takers of public funds. Bludging off other tax payers,reliance on government employment and living off government borrowings to sustain this has become the norm. You can't blame the bankers for taking advantage of such a short sighted and unsustainable [socialist] mindset. Edited December 27, 2012 by THOMO
firefly0071 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 It's a Tory Government - pro enterprise. Hardly a "socialist" government.
LogicprObe Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=psZBaJU_Cvo 3
Super Mustud Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 It's a Tory Government - pro enterprise. Hardly a "socialist" government. Its is not a socialist government however it is now a socialist society.
hybridfiat Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) We should be tolerant of their beliefs and support them and give them the benefit of the doubt and welfare and their own law system and parliament within our country and....................................Nah on second thought just tell em to F OFF! Edited December 27, 2012 by hybridfiat 1
Lloyd Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 While I reckon that chick was pretty brave and I admire her tenacious attitude, she was pretty naive and confused. It is actually Christians (and most people who are not Christians) who respect secular authority however much we may disagree, not Muslims of the brand she was speaking with. Mathew 22:21 recounts how Jesus said "Render under Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's". This can be construed more widely as obeying the laws of the country and along with other passages lends itself to the separation of church from state.
LogicprObe Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Lloyd, I consider all organised religions as a form of mass hysteria, inducing an unparalleled form of bigotism only rivaled by Greens supporters. 1
Lloyd Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Lloyd, I consider all organised religions as a form of mass hysteria, inducing an unparalleled form of bigotism only rivaled by Greens supporters. Your point about the Greens is demonstrated in wolster's original clip. That is all I have to say about that. I am reluctant to comment on Christians as you seem a little bit jaded by them - let me know when you see them marching down streets with the vile slogans by Muslims as in the clip you provided.
LogicprObe Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 This mob are real loons! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
Milo Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 LP, one didn't even have to click the link to know that it was going to be Westboro. There was a 60 minutes piece on them sometime ago in the last year or two which said it all.
LogicprObe Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Yeah...............didn't see that one but have been watching their exploits for years on the net.
Milo Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 LP, this was the 60 minutes story on Westboro, they even got stuck into Liz Hayes and Australia too: [media=] [/media]
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Your point about the Greens is demonstrated in wolster's original clip. That is all I have to say about that. I am reluctant to comment on Christians as you seem a little bit jaded by them - let me know when you see them marching down streets with the vile slogans by Muslims as in the clip you provided. Sure: http://www.telegraph...ion-banner.html http://www.guardian....-clinic-opening http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1188379 http://www.smh.com.a...1019-27wsb.html http://blog.al.com/live/2012/12/westboro_baptist_church_to_pic_1.html http://theweek.com/article/index/238243/should-obama-label-the-westboro-baptist-church-a-hate-group Edited December 28, 2012 by Zaphod Beeblebrox
Lloyd Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Sure: http://www.telegraph...ion-banner.html http://www.guardian....-clinic-opening http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1188379 http://www.smh.com.a...1019-27wsb.html http://blog.al.com/l...h_to_pic_1.html http://theweek.com/a...ch-a-hate-group I didn't get to read all the links, but mainly to do with abortion which has always been and will continue to be a highly emotive subject amongst people of whatever creed or no creed. Then the link to the Westboro Baptist outfit. OK. Right. Try harder. Did you actually watch the clip by LP? Edited December 28, 2012 by Lloyd
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I didn't get to read all the links, but mainly to do with abortion which has always been and will continue to be a highly emotive subject amongst people of whatever creed or no creed. Then the link to the Westboro Baptist outfit. OK. Right. Try harder. You asked for evidence. I supplied it. Christians can be just as daft as Muslims. It's all part of the same delusion. 2
proftournesol Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 It's a Tory Government - pro enterprise. Hardly a "socialist" government. Tory, Labour, Liberal, ALP - all pro-'business as usual' Governments. It's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic, a card trick illusion where things seem to change but they never do.
Lloyd Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 You asked for evidence. I supplied it. Christians can be just as daft as Muslims. It's all part of the same delusion. You provided evidence of people protesting about a specific emotive issue issue which has been the subject of legitimate judicial and legislative and theological debate, and then brought up the Westboro Baptist Church which are by no stretch of the imagination Christian. You provided nothing, as compared to the Muslim protest in LP's clip, as to what is happening in the UK, and has recently been coming to Oz for some time now.
Lloyd Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Tory, Labour, Liberal, ALP - all pro-'business as usual' Governments. It's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic, a card trick illusion where things seem to change but they never do. Maggie Thatcher was Tory. She was not business as usual.
davidsss Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 You provided evidence of people protesting about a specific emotive issue issue which has been the subject of legitimate judicial and legislative and theological debate, and then brought up the Westboro Baptist Church which are by no stretch of the imagination Christian. You provided nothing, as compared to the Muslim protest in LP's clip, as to what is happening in the UK, and has recently been coming to Oz for some time now. Baptists are Christians, just as the Muslims shown above are Muslims. Both religions have their crazies at the extremes and tarring all Muslims with the same brush as the extremists is the same as claiming all Christians are like the Westboro Church. DS
Super Mustud Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Tory, Labour, Liberal, ALP - all pro-'business as usual' Governments. It's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic, a card trick illusion where things seem to change but they never do. Because it is what the bulk of society want. Stray more than a millimetre away from that electoral sweet spot and you are political dust. All the carefully designed speeches about fundamental differences are window dressing to amuse the voter. Democracy in action. Not so much a card trick as a charade as requested by the electorate. How can that be a bad thing? Only the outliers truly complain.
Super Mustud Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Maggie Thatcher was Tory. She was not business as usual. As I see it, Maggie returned the debate back to the centre after British society woke up to there having been a deviation too far to the Left. In the nature of zigzags she may have marginally overstepped the correction. Or perhaps not. However the median always rules, and only shifts in real terms very gradually over time.
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