westendboy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Wow! I am just 4 episodes away from the end. This is fricking addictive but exhausting to watch! I will say more when I am done. Netflix is definitely the new HBO. Credit goes to bro jdc115 for the first heads up and this deserves its own thread. Not sure if you have seen the series, "Making a Murder"? It is a 10 Part Netflix Documentary that follows the release of a man wrongfully convicted of a crime after he spends 18 years in prison. I've only watched the first two parts so far but it is shaping up to be as compelling as the Jinx This is another gross miscarriage of justice documentary. I have seen quite a few: The Thin Blue Line, West of Memphis, The Jinx. It uses journalistic probes and investigations to bring up all the gross misconduct of the authorities. So do expect lots of talking heads. We have only seen the first episode and it had hardly any reenactment. My wife got really bored midway and she told me I can watch the rest on my own. I am not sure I will too but I will try a few more episodes and see. [embed=425,349] [/embed] Reel just became real http://hellogiggles.com/juror-speaks-up-making-murderer/ I finished it over the weekend and it works on so many levels. To watch it, I think it is easy to draw the conclusion that he was framed. As a piece of film making, there is no doubt what they can select to include or exclude that can also influence the audience. The whole story of how the project started is interesting. I listened to a podcast where the two film makers were fresh out of University and read a story about the murder and thought it would be interesting piece to film and explore. They were about done until the Police called the press conference were they outlined Brendon's "confession" about helping his uncle with the murder for the next 10 years they have been filming and working on the documentary. They did the first 2 episodes that got rejected but kept filming and working on the project until Netflix bought the rights. It was difficult to think how the convicted Steven Avery from what you saw but I am completely lost how Bredan's case (15 year old nephew) ever went to trial. I would have thought it should have been thrown out completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westendboy Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 The 10-episode docuseries from directors Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos severely questions Avery’s arrest and murder conviction for the 2005 killing of photographer Halbach. Avery’s 2007 conviction struck many as suspicious. He had been exonerated in 2003 after serving 18 years for sexual assault and had filed a $36 million civil suit against Wisconsin’s Manitowoc County. It was teen Dassey’s vivid testimony on the murder that sealed both his and his uncle’s fate in the rape and murder of 25-year-old Halbach. Making A Murderer investigates that that the Manitowoc County Sheriff’s Department used improper methods to convict the duo, to quote the petition. At 1 hour per episode, this represented 10 strenuous hours in front of my TV. It is exhausting to say the least. If you were ever in a courtroom you would understand the slow crawl of time, unless you are the accused, of course :). IMHO the long runtime worked towards the detriment of the docu-series. That was what I felt at first. I have seen a fair share of these "gross miscarriage of justice done to individuals" documentaries so nothing is new here, but gradually the whole case got to me. The exhaustive nature started to feel like stark thoroughness. No stone is left unturned and we get a "fair" view of the investigation and the courtroom drama. It got very compelling for me, so compelling that I sometimes I feel like stepping inside the TV to kill the evil people in blue uniforms and suits. The twists and turns in the courtroom is jaw-dropping. At times I had to slap myself to remind myself I am watching something real, not something out of Hollywood. The two lawyers for Steven Avery, Jerry Buting and Dean Strang, are very compelling to watch. If I am in trouble these are the type of lawyers I want on my side. They are an intelligent duo fighting for Avery with one hand tied behind their backs. How they established the timeline, poked holes into the persecution case, suggested doubts, and argued their case is laudable. What stunned me is Brendan Dassey's case. It shouldn't have even gone to trial. It really pissed me off what the lawyer and investigators did to him, and then ultimately how the deplorable justice system failed him. Finally, I have to applaud the efforts of the filmmakers Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos. This is 10 years' of their lives put in. How the both of them had the foresight, spliced through rolls of recorded film and possessed the tenacity to film 10 years of this incredible sprawling story is incredible. Salute! This 10 hours really affected me a lot. Just in case you start to think it is just a story that happened miles and miles away, you need to remember that anyone can proclaim they will never commit a crime, but you can never proclaim that you will never be accused one. I hope Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey's stories don't end and one day the truth will come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landis1 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 i woke up to the news of the recapture of joaquin guzman, but it was the 10 hour documentary marathon i watched last night that still excites me. the documentary was well done. i am not sure if it is accurate at all, but nevertheless i couldnt stop watching. the twists and turns in the courtroom were indeed jaw-dropping. i would recommend it to anyone with 10 hours to spare. i did not have the time but i couldnt turn away from it once i switched it on .... and i had to repeatedly remind myself that this is all real video footage. good recommendation WEB and JDC115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hass Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 wah, 10 hr marathon? I just watched 2 episodes last night & i felt a combo of exhaustion & excitement at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westendboy Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Arm-chair detectives, choose your theory 8) http://www.gamesradar.com/fan-theories-making-murderer-steven-avery-netflix/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc115 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 The twists and turns in the courtroom is jaw-dropping. At times I had to slap myself to remind myself I am watching something real, not something out of Hollywood. The two lawyers for Steven Avery, Jerry Buting and Dean Strang, are very compelling to watch. If I am in trouble these are the type of lawyers I want on my side. They are an intelligent duo fighting for Avery with one hand tied behind their backs. How they established the timeline, poked holes into the persecution case, suggested doubts, and argued their case is laudable. I was hoping you would power through it and thanks for the great write up. How they uncover tamped blood vile from him previous conviction and how the edit the court questioning is as better than anything Law & Order could ever have done. While there is no "You can't handle the truth" type moments, I was as sucked into some of those moments as I would be watching a Hollywood film What stunned me is Brendan Dassey's case. It shouldn't have even gone to trial. It really pissed me off what the lawyer and investigators did to him, and then ultimately how the deplorable justice system failed him. There are so many things wrong with Brendan's story that it is hard to comprehend what they did to him. His lawyer completely set him up, that enough should have gotten the case thrown out. I would have thought anybody that watched his "confession" would have completely dismissed it as crap. He obviously has no idea what is going on and finally just starts changing his answers to what the detectives want to hear as he thinks once he is done he can go to class to turn in his paper. But that is the last time he leaves jail until his trial. The fact they never use Brendon's confession, testimony or any of the evidence linked to Brendon's case to help convict Steven is very telling. There were parts of Brendon's story and confession that I think would have hurt their case against Steven. In the end, I don't think there was any evidence in Brendon's case outside of the horrible confession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westendboy Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 A million minds is better than two. http://hellogiggles.com/teresa-halbach-keys/2/#read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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