Super Mustud Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 I have recently had some trouble with my Belkin modem/router and decided to get a new unit before it packs up completely. After a bit of time on Whirlpool i ordered a Billion 7800 VDPX, and it should arrive tomorrow. What surprised me in reading the various threads and posts on Whirlpool is just how much influence the modem/router has on speed. I expected this to be the case with stability, as extra investment here could really impact, however I had an expectation that speed would be largely set by the ISP connection rather than that little box with all the lights. Is the experience here that the speed is as variable as reported at Whirlpool? Just wondering.
Tony M Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 Hi Mustud I haven't read the Whirlpool forums, but I'd be sceptical. I have a Netgear DGND 3700, which was supposed to be SOTA about 12-18 months ago. When there was a glitch with the internet, I dragged out a couple of old and very basic Netgear modems to try - these had both been replaced years ago due to increasing unreliability, needing rebooting too often. The glitch turned out to be a phone-line fault, but it prompted me to compare speeds once the line was fixed and they were all about the same.
Smoovie Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 I think this is true to a degree. I upgraded from an old D-Link G-604T to a Netgear DGND3700 and managed an extra 50kB/s when downloading with no changes to ISP or distance between router and phone line socket.
hochopeper Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 I believe it is true. The speed and stability come hand in hand. Both are subject the the quality of the cable in the ground and the ability of the modem to filter/deal with the signal in whatever state it is in when it arrives at your home is where the modems differ. They don't always correlate with price.
LogicprObe Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 They can make a difference, albeit sometimes slight. The Billion is probably the best value for money, giving good performance at the right price.
Addicted to music Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 My brother has a Billion 7800n, it was known to drop out and he contacted the IP provider; TPG, they made a few adjustments and now it's fine. The Billions are known to failures and poor sync to the line. They seem to work better in situations where the are the furthest away from the exchange due to the chip set they employ. The Netgear dgnd3700 has all the bells and whistles but lacks IPv6, apparently the new version of this will support it.
LogicprObe Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 My brother has a Billion 7800n, it was known to drop out and he contacted the IP provider; TPG, they made a few adjustments and now it's fine. The Billions are known to failures and poor sync to the line. They seem to work better in situations where the are the furthest away from the exchange due to the chip set they employ. The Netgear dgnd3700 has all the bells and whistles but lacks IPv6, apparently the new version of this will support it. That's true. Different modems work better in different situations. (I'm on cable, so there isn't much choice in modems} Around here, for ADSL, we are at least 2.5kms from the exchange via a submarine cable so the Billion is a favourite in this area.
Super Mustud Posted September 12, 2012 Author Posted September 12, 2012 My brother has a Billion 7800n, it was known to drop out and he contacted the IP provider; TPG, they made a few adjustments and now it's fine. The Billions are known to failures and poor sync to the line. They seem to work better in situations where the are the furthest away from the exchange due to the chip set they employ. The Netgear dgnd3700 has all the bells and whistles but lacks IPv6, apparently the new version of this will support it. Yes , read about the chipset differences on Whirlpool. I am also just over 2.5 km away so Billion's chip suits me.
emesbee Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I'm also in the market for a new modem/router, but I'm unsure which brand to get. I seem to have had a bad run with modems and routers over the last few years. I started out with a fairly basic Netcomm modem. It worked ok for a while, but then its performance started degrading over time. I found I had to keep resetting it about every half hour or so, after which it would work fine again, ... for the next 30 minutes or so! I obtained a Telstra/Bigpond modem (2-Wire brand) from a work colleague as a replacement, which works flawlessly. However, the 2-Wire (like the Netcomm before it) only has a single network port, so I then connected it to fairly cheap router (I forget the brand). This works well, when it works. The problem seems to be that the two devices seem to be frequently losing communication with each other, after which they seem to take forever to resync. I got fed up with that, so decided to replace both with a single modem/router. So, last year I ended up getting a D-Link wireless modem/router (which was on special at JB). To say this is a heap of junk is an understatement. It worked well at first, but (as seems to be the norm, in my experience with these devices) started degrading over time. First of all, it would lose all its settings randomly, and for no apparent reason. Initially, I was able to reload my settings from a saved file, but that no longer works. Instead, every time I switch the damn thing on, it seems to go into some sort of continuous reset loop. It won't read my saved file, and it keeps resetting itself before I've had a chance to finish running the setup wizard. So, I've currently gone back to the 2-Wire modem running by itself, which seems to be the only reliable piece of equipment of this type that I've owned so far. (Actually, it seems like quite a well designed product, despite having the Telstra/Bigpond name plastered all over its menus - who I'm not with.) I had head that Belken were good, but am not so sure after Mustud's experience. Friends have recommended Billion to me, but I've heard of reliability problems with them. D-Link are off the list, for obvious reasons. Are these devices inherently badly designed and unreliable, or have I just had a bad run? I really don't know what to get any more.
LogicprObe Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I've sold a few of these and never had a call back on them. http://www.anyware.com.au/TD-W8960N.aspx
Batty Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Emesbee, I have a redundant Netcomm NB9wMAXX you can have, 2 phone inputs and 4 ethernet ports plus wifi. 1
LogicprObe Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Emesbee, I have a redundant Netcomm NB9wMAXX you can have, 2 phone inputs and 4 ethernet ports plus wifi. Bargain!
emesbee Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Emesbee, I have a redundant Netcomm NB9wMAXX you can have, 2 phone inputs and 4 ethernet ports plus wifi. Thanks for the offer, Batty. Might take you up on that. Will send a PM.
Super Mustud Posted September 13, 2012 Author Posted September 13, 2012 That's a nice story. Makes starting a thread very satisfying.
Addicted to music Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I've sold a few of these and never had a call back on them. http://www.anyware.c.../TD-W8960N.aspx What other ones have you sold or selling ATM LP?
LogicprObe Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 What other ones have you sold or selling ATM LP? Oh....Dlink, Netgear, Netcom, Billion.......most of them over the years. They are relatively cheap everywhere these days and much easier to set up so I don't do that many these days. If someone says........get me a new one.....I just grab a TP Link one cause I'm usually at Anyware a couple of times a week.
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