Stump Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Just put a order in for the TTMega Ring 1 Kg.After reading up on the practical side of using the weight it makes good sense.Ill do a report when it arrives.... Stump http://www.ttweights...340/8556180.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Hall Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I am curious. How do you use it? Why do you use it? When do you use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srms Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Makes sense to flatten out the record and to add some mass to the platter. I wonder what effect adding the weight has on the TT bearing. With the use of weights on the spindle (up to 1kg) and weights on the periphery (up to 1KG) it will certainly increase the contact pressure of the vertical bearing surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetube Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Makes sense to flatten out the record and to add some mass to the platter. I wonder what effect adding the weight has on the TT bearing. With the use of weights on the spindle (up to 1kg) and weights on the periphery (up to 1KG) it will certainly increase the contact pressure of the vertical bearing surface. it not design for Linn LP-12 that is for sure Cheers Lovebube 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffnutz Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 it not design for Linn LP-12 that is for sure It's not 'designed'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 I am curious. How do you use it? Why do you use it? When do you use it? Its Designed for High end tables with large and deep platters.The Clearaudio outer Ring is 1.5 KG so the weight of this one should be fine .With the high end carts costing $1000s I fined even the flattest records float a bit and enough to vary the VTA of the Stylus.Keeping the record dead flat lets the cart do its thing and produce more detail out of the grooves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren M. Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) it not design for Linn LP-12 that is for sure Cheers Lovebube There is a 300g TTWeights ring weight which is suitable for the LP12. As with any weight on the LP12, you need to adjust the suspension to compensate, and that means you should always use the weight on the turntable, even when playing for instance 7" singles! Edited September 9, 2012 by warrenmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren M. Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) It's not 'designed'. A flippant and entirely incorrect statement! The company that manufactures these ring weights has gone through multiple versions using several different metal alloys and pure metals. The current version has brass cylinders on a magnesium steel alloy ring, manufactured in the same factory as the parts that this company supplies to NASA! The primary reason for the manufacture of these rings is for TTWeights' own turntables, which start at around $10K and go up from there. So suggesting that these rings are "not designed" is both wrong and insensitive to TTWeights' extremely high production values, which should be applauded rather than derided. Regards Warren Edited September 9, 2012 by warrenmmmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) A flippant and entirely incorrect statement! The company that manufactures these ring weights has gone through multiple versions using several different metal alloys and pure metals. The current version has brass cylinders on a magnesium steel alloy ring, manufactured in the same factory as the parts that this company supplies to NASA! The primary reason for the manufacture of these rings is for TTWeights' own turntables, which start at around $10K and go up from there. So suggesting that these rings are "not designed" is both wrong and insensitive to TTWeights' extremely high production values, which should be applauded rather than derided. Regards Warren Not entirely correct Warren TT weights started out just making centre weights/clamps and the outer rings. His turntable on his site was an old demon dd table. He then started making those copies of the micro seiki copper platter mats. His ugly turntables came much later. The peripheral outer rings are pretty good, I still miss my vpi one every now and then. cheers Edited September 9, 2012 by turntable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren M. Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) I am curious. How do you use it? Why do you use it? When do you use it? I use both the 1kg TTWeights TTMega ring weight and the Once Analog 1.4kg centre weight on my Once Analog turntable, for every single 12" record I play. The result is a significant and in some cases radical improvement in replay quality, equivalent in effect (but different in execution) to vacuum locking the record in place. Minor warps are completely eliminated (which a centre weight on its own does not do). Vinyl vibration is radically lowered, resulting in the stylus tracking only the groove rather than a combination of groove wall and stylus-generated and motor-generated vibrational movement of the record walls. Watching the cartridge with and without the ring weight is astonishing. Without it, the cartridge is constantly moving up and down and visibly vibrating as it goes (have a look!). With the ring weight, the cartridge lies dead still vertically, and vibrational movement of the cartridge radically less. The only thing you can see vibrating is the stylus in the groove, and you can be pretty sure this is only as a result of the information which is embedded in the groove walls. The differences between using the Nugget centre weight alone and using both the Nugget and the TTMega weight, are clearly audible on heavy high quality vinyl records, and very substantial on slightly warped lightweight vinyl records. It should be noted that having this much weight on the bearing, requires a bearing which is designed for it, such as that of the Once Analog and other heavy duty non-suspended rim-drive or belt-drive turntables. Tightly coupling the record to most direct drive turntables in this way would deliver a great deal of motor noise to the stylus so I'd shy away from heavy weights on direct drive turntables unless they are very specifically designed for them (e.g. Goldmund). As for suspended turntables, the rules are different, as it is not just the bearing and motor which need to be considered: the suspension springs are designed for a range of weights and increasing past the maximum will result in the suspension not reacting correctly to resonances. Modern Linn LP12 suspensions can cope with almost a kg of additional weight, but must be adjusted for it. The original Linn suspension (pre-Cirkus) reacted badly to even modest centre weights of a few hundred grams. Edited September 9, 2012 by warrenmmmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnA Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 The peripheral outer rings are pretty good, I still miss my vpi one every now and then. cheers i love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 i love it Ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hergest Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 A flippant and entirely incorrect statement! The company that manufactures these ring weights has gone through multiple versions using several different metal alloys and pure metals. The current version has brass cylinders on a magnesium steel alloy ring, manufactured in the same factory as the parts that this company supplies to NASA! The primary reason for the manufacture of these rings is for TTWeights' own turntables, which start at around $10K and go up from there. So suggesting that these rings are "not designed" is both wrong and insensitive to TTWeights' extremely high production values, which should be applauded rather than derided. Regards Warren Gruffnutz was correcting Lovetube's spelling, not questioning the design of the Mega Ring. I would have thought that was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren M. Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Gruffnutz was correcting Lovetube's spelling, not questioning the design of the Mega Ring. I would have thought that was obvious. Apologies for misunderstanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heman_ Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 if they made them at around 10kg then you'd be lifting it on/off 8 times per 2 record set and could pretty much get a gym workout done. Add a heavy centreweight into the mix and you'd be looking like ronnie coleman in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnA Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Just put a order in for the TTMega Ring 1 Kg.After reading up on the practical side of using the weight it makes good sense.Ill do a report when it arrives.... Stump http://www.ttweights...340/8556180.htm You will be pleased with the results. I think they have a positive result, both at flattening a lp and to the sound. I find using a screw down clamp, or a heavy weight to adds to the result. I always place the center weight first, that way the center of the record is flat against the platter, the ring then brings everything else down onto the platter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren M. Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) You will be pleased with the results. I think they have a positive result, both at flattening a lp and to the sound. I find using a screw down clamp, or a heavy weight to adds to the result. I always place the center weight first, that way the center of the record is flat against the platter, the ring then brings everything else down onto the platter So you position by hand rather than use the ingenious holder? I couldn't do that consistently if my life depended on it. With the holder, I just more-or-less dump the ring onto the record, then add the Nugget centre weight and done - 3 seconds. Edited September 9, 2012 by warrenmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) So you position by hand rather than use the ingenious holder? I couldn't do that consistently if my life depended on it. With the holder, I just more-or-less dump the ring onto the record, then add the Nugget centre weight and done - 3 seconds. With the VPI hrx, it is child's play. The platter has a bevel on the outside and the inside of the outer ring has some nice velvet and fits easily and snugly on the platter each and every time. No need for any holder. The outer ring will not move once in position. You can use it under the lp just for the flywheel effect. Does the TT weights just sit on top? How does it stay secure, or don't bump it? Edited September 9, 2012 by turntable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren M. Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 With the VPI hrx, it is child's play. The platter has a bevel on the outside and the inside of the outer ring has some nice velvet and fits easily and snugly on the platter each and every time. No need for any holder. The outer ring will not move once in position. You can use it under the lp just for the flywheel effect. Does the TT weights just sit on top? How does it stay secure, or don't bump it? OK, so now I understand why the VPI ring only works on specific turntables. The TTWeights rings are designed to sit rigidly on the vinyl. They simply don't slip. If you knocked it with your hand with any force it certainly would, but I've not done that once in the year I've had it. Once you see it positioned you'll understand. A guy I know who used to have a VPI said he never used the VPI ring he because it is too fiddly to get it on. I've never seen it so I have no idea what his issue was. All I know is that when I showed him the TTWeights ring going onto his massive Chinese turntable (no idea why he replaced the VPI), he just about fell over backwards, it was so fast and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samman Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Who sells the TT Mega rings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankn Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Who sells the TT Mega rings ? I think you have to order direct from the manufacturer - Canada http://www.ttweights.com/turntable_accessories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnA Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 OK, so now I understand why the VPI ring only works on specific turntables. The TTWeights rings are designed to sit rigidly on the vinyl. They simply don't slip. If you knocked it with your hand with any force it certainly would, but I've not done that once in the year I've had it. Once you see it positioned you'll understand. A guy I know who used to have a VPI said he never used the VPI ring he because it is too fiddly to get it on. I've never seen it so I have no idea what his issue was. All I know is that when I showed him the TTWeights ring going onto his massive Chinese turntable (no idea why he replaced the VPI), he just about fell over backwards, it was so fast and easy. I can tell you the VPI one is very easy to use..on and off within seconds, and i love that it can just sit on the platter if you dont want to use it, and sit a record over the top of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samman Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I think you have to order direct from the manufacturer - Canada http://www.ttweights...ccessories.html Thanks for the info much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki65 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Looked at these about 12 months ago, got sidetracked and never got around to getting one. After reading this it rekindled my interest, so i orderd one. Bugger me, from Canada to my door step in 5 days. Been living with it for a couple of weeks now. Besides it looking god damn sexy, it has made a reasonable difference in SQ. However today i put Anna Calvi on and the mega ring would not fit. On close inspection of the album, edges rough from pressing. With a file carefully cleaned the edges, all good. Anyone else had issues like this? Am that impressed with the mega ring i have decided to give there 3 layer ttultimat a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozrayyau Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Another 1kg work on the TT bearing...........will it too heavy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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