Vortexjah Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Not sure if this has been posted, but an interesting and sad read. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio&p=714488&viewfull=1#post714488
Nigel Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Well I'm not surprised. At one time they were the buzz, but everyone I know who has one (or any of tthe alternative digital media players), has complained. They either stop or paus all the time or take forever to scan the HDD. Has anyone found one that works well? everytime and fast ? or is everyone switching to computer / laptop as the media player ?
markm1111 Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Well I'm not surprised. At one time they were the buzz, but everyone I know who has one (or any of tthe alternative digital media players), has complained. They either stop or paus all the time or take forever to scan the HDD. Has anyone found one that works well? everytime and fast ? or is everyone switching to computer / laptop as the media player ? My expereince doesn't mirror what you are talking about Nigel. My Duet had a few issues, but the Touch and my Transporter have been rock solid since day one. They just work. I will be very sad if the line dies, as eventually the software will lose support and I will have to find some other way to play my music. I find it difficult to believe it will be as plug-and-play as I have found the Touch, or as economic. 1
LogicprObe Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Who cares about low quality radio? I just want to stream my digital files.
betty boop Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 not suprised and couldnt care less....to be perfectly honest. the landscape is full of media players of all sorts...$100 and up and with decent user interfaces and all sorts of connectivity and capability. the world has moved on and for businesses I doubt much profit in a product such as this on the hard ware side. all the money is in the software/media and what they can extract from people longterm. nigel, cloud storage and streaming off the web is where its at. LP the mass public dont care for quality...any old sh!te at any crap resolution or bit rate will do for the "ring tone" generation...
LogicprObe Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 I know, I know...............I just live in hope...........is all. 1
New Sensations Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name= al' timestamp='1346317738' post='755882]not suprised and couldnt care less....to be perfectly honest. the landscape is full of media players of all sorts...$100 and up and with decent user interfaces and all sorts of connectivity and capability. Like what?
betty boop Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) JD the market is flooded with media players. wd live, apple tv, kogan agora, dlink boxee, dune, astone etc...all with much wider media replay ability vs the audio only capability of a squeeze box. and this is not counting just about every device coming on the market these days that even has media replay built in for free ! even just looking at my av system in front of me I can see my TV, TivoHD, cambridge BD player, denon processor thats 4 devices all with multi media replay capability ! for free..... without counting my media players in the duneHD and appletv Edited August 30, 2012 by :) al
New Sensations Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Hmmmm. Yes, but few of them all of these features: 1) play gaplessly <---- most fail this! 2) support FLAC 3) have server software that supports plugins, library mgmt and rescanning 4) touch screen 5) USB digital audio output 6) controllable from iPhone/iPad/Android app I don't think any of those you mention do all of these things. Most only tick two or three boxes at best. Edited August 30, 2012 by John Darko
New Sensations Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) In fact, most of them are media focussed. They do video well, but audio file playback is almost a second thought. The Squeezebox was different because it was intended ONLY as an audio player. The Sonos doesn't cut it: poor digital transport that needs a re-clocker e.g. synchro-mesh. No USB so no Audiophilleo, Hiface appending. I have a WD Live. It doesn't do gap less. The apple tv doesn't do FLAC. Tivo insists your content be on its internal hard-drive. I've never heard one. I'm willing to bet money it doesn't do gapless or FLAC. Happy to be proved wrong. I genuinely the best way forward in a post-SBT world is to run audio playback from inside Squeezepad/iPeng OR run Squeezeslave on a PC/Mac. Edited August 30, 2012 by John Darko
LogicprObe Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name= al' timestamp='1346319914' post='755913] JD....the buying public dont care.... They do when it doesn't do what they want! 1
danq Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 My SBT has worked perfectly well since day one, never missed a beat. 1
New Sensations Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) [quote name= al' timestamp='1346319914' post='755913] JD....the buying public dont care.... Am all too aware of that. Sorry, I must have misread your post. I thought you were suggesting that I could jump to any number of media streamers and get the same experience as a SBT. Edited August 30, 2012 by John Darko
Peter_F Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 My SBT is a piece of sh*t. It is very unstable and unreliable. If it wasn't for MCB and Tuyen, I never would have been able to get it working. It present's constant challenges and problem solving. 1
kinetic Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Hmm, I just bought one new from JB Hifi. Are there any webside services that will be unavailable and make this less useful? Or am I safe to open it up and use it as it states? If it's going to be a pain I could take it back. Edited August 30, 2012 by kinetic
betty boop Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Am all to aware of that. Sorry, I must have misread your post. I thought you were suggesting that I could jump to any number of media streamers and get the same experience as a SBT. certainly not suggesting that. just the point the market is flooded, and mass market has typically pretty basic needs that any number of both free or rudimentary reasonably cheap items probably full fill. this is just another case of the market deciding....and something like the squeeze box while perfect for some has been passed over to point of the maker deciding its not really something worth continuing on with. as gadgets and widgets I dont think its alone...history is littered with all such...
LogicprObe Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Hmm, I just bought one new from JB Hifi. Are there any webside services that will be unavailable and make this less useful? Or am I safe to open it up and use it as it states? If it's going to be a pain I could take it back. They're a good machine. But just like computers, some have a better experience than others.
A J Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 I have to say that slim devices really opened up this way of handling music, for me anyway, I've had nothing but postive experiences with the squeezebox line. The Duet was the exception really, good idea but a bit flawed in execution, but the SBT to me anyway is the perfect streaming device, and it lets fiddlers like me play around with alll sorts of variations in terms of application. - my 2c for the night anyway. Looks like the squeezebox journey is coming to an and though, that was always going to happen though under logitech ownership, just a matter of time.
The Fez Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Yes -- It was originally Slim Devices. Would have been a great place to work at that time for a tech, whilst they were developing the ORIGINAL squeezebox. The SB1 released 2003 and first to use wireless. Great product. Probably now a collectors item.
New Sensations Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Looks like enjoying the Squeezebox journey might only be possible for a short while longer. 1
New Sensations Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Yes -- It was originally Slim Devices. Would have been a great place to work at that time for a tech, whilst they were developing the ORIGINAL squeezebox. The SB1 released 2003 and first to use wireless. Great product. Probably now a collectors item. There was a model that preceded that one IIRC.
RockandorRoll Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Marketing hey, ruin it for everyone lucky ive got 2 Classics and a Touch in the house, streaming FLAC for years to come
MarcusHix Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Hmmmm...not sure what this all means? The SBT has been a reliable companion on my journey. Not sure I'm ready to give up...just yet!
k3here Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 As a Sonos user who never used a SBT, I am also disappointed. The greater the competition in this space the better quality product we can look forward to in the future. I hope others take up the charge and the likes of Sonos continue to innovate. The Sonos is not perfect but it is very very good and extremely reliable in my view. I would like to understand what drove Logitech to this decision. Was there not enough sales? Did they worry threats from Airplay and the might of Apple for instance??
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