colinm1 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 over here in the west ,people are getting their water bills, according to a radio interview,there is on the bill an estimate 0.87% (aprox) added onto the bill, being the carbon tax onflow to customers,and then gst is added to the total ammount! so ther gove is double dipping 1 with the c/t and 2 with the gst!! also on the same interview the person said ,refridgerants are due to go up 400/600% as part of the carbon tax bill, adding many thousands to buisnesses who have freezers and need to re gas on a regular basis ,let alone transporting frozen goods ,specially to w.a. from east!!!
LogicprObe Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I remember when double dipping was deemed illegal. Sadly, this has not been the case since the GST.
Super Mustud Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I remember when double dipping was deemed illegal. Sadly, this has not been the case since the GST. Why should double dipping be illegal? Competition rules.
LogicprObe Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Why should double dipping be illegal? Competition rules. You like sloppy seconds?
Super Mustud Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 You like sloppy seconds? I'm always at the head of the queue.
rantan Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Another tax thread. I will leave it to the accountants and the zealots. Have fun guys.
Super Mustud Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Another tax thread. I will leave it to the accountants and the zealots. Have fun guys. Jump in Ranty.We can talk about valves.
Saxon Hall Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 over here in the west ,people are getting their water bills, according to a radio interview,there is on the bill an estimate 0.87% (aprox) added onto the bill, being the carbon tax onflow to customers,and then gst is added to the total ammount! so ther gove is double dipping 1 with the c/t and 2 with the gst!! also on the same interview the person said ,refridgerants are due to go up 400/600% as part of the carbon tax bill, adding many thousands to buisnesses who have freezers and need to re gas on a regular basis ,let alone transporting frozen goods ,specially to w.a. from east!!! HCFC based refrigerants have been going up almost on a monthly basis since the start of the year. Each time they go up 15% and sometimes 25%. It has nothing to do with the Carbon Tax. Australia has agreed to the controlled phase out of these refrigerants and this programme has now commenced. Each month the agreed quota is reduced therefore prices inexorably rise.. This whole arrangement was agreed to and set in stone long before the Carbon Tax was proposed. For more info on reasons for price increases see here,http://www.actrol.co... March 2012.pdf
Guest Willow Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 also on the same interview the person said ,refridgerants are due to go up 400/600% as part of the carbon tax bill,adding many thousands to buisnesses who have freezers and need to re gas on a regular basis ,let alone transporting frozen goods ,specially to w.a. from east!!! This is the sneaky and under-handed portion of the Carbon Tax added by the Greens , their view to decimate the meat industry , butchers , etc. Vegetarianism is their ultimate goal for the population , to weaken our mind , body and soul. I must pm davidsss to bring me home a selection of black pudding together with my whisky.
lusk Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 HCFC based refrigerants have been going up almost on a monthly basis since the start of the year. Each time they go up 15% and sometimes 25%. It has nothing to do with the Carbon Tax. Australia has agreed to the controlled phase out of these refrigerants and this programme has now commenced. Each month the agreed quota is reduced therefore prices inexorably rise.. This whole arrangement was agreed to and set in stone long before the Carbon Tax was proposed. For more info on reasons for price increases see here,http://www.actrol.co... March 2012.pdf Well you can add on top of that 300% overnight with the carbon tax, its around RRP $300 dollars now per kg for HFC R507. So to drop 100kg into our plant at work now costs $30,000 Its going to cost people some coin as leaks can be very hard to eliminate without removing functionality from your plant.
Saxon Hall Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Well you can add on top of that 300% overnight with the carbon tax, its around RRP $300 dollars now per kg for HFC R507. So to drop 100kg into our plant at work now costs $30,000 Its going to cost people some coin as leaks can be very hard to eliminate without removing functionality from your plant. A well maintained plant can considerably reduce potential leakage. Until now it has been easier and cheaper to tolerate leaks and just top up regularly. With the price increases happening, a better maintained plant will be cheaper to run and be less harmful to the environment. I guess that is one of the points of the exercise. I used to work in the industry and one of the reasons I got out was that my conscience would not allow me to work in what was then a very environmentally destructive industry. If that makes me sound like a Green then that is a badge I will wear with honour!
Super Mustud Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 This is the sneaky and under-handed portion of the Carbon Tax added by the Greens , their view to decimate the meat industry , butchers , etc. Vegetarianism is their ultimate goal for the population , to weaken our mind , body and soul. I must pm davidsss to bring me home a selection of black pudding together with my whisky. That and to demolish the Thomson Dam
comfortablynumb Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Tax on a tax is nothing new. You pay income tax, sock some in super, get taxed again. Just one example.
Super Mustud Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I must pm davidsss to bring me home a selection of black pudding together with my whisky. Willow, just thought I should point out something. Black means charred. Charred means carbon. I predict that any black pudding brought back by Davidssssss will be confiscated by Customs and your children and grandchildren charged for the new windmill plant to be built at Dee Why.
ayou2 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 David is overseas ? How did he bicycle over the water ?
rantan Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 David is overseas ? How did he bicycle over the water ? He went in a hot air baloon Powered by SNA.
Super Mustud Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 He went in a hot air baloon Powered by SNA. He'll go a long way. 1
THOMO Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Yes but we do not have a tax on common sense [yet] and that is far more toxic than carbon.
lusk Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 A well maintained plant can considerably reduce potential leakage. Until now it has been easier and cheaper to tolerate leaks and just top up regularly. With the price increases happening, a better maintained plant will be cheaper to run and be less harmful to the environment. I guess that is one of the points of the exercise. I used to work in the industry and one of the reasons I got out was that my conscience would not allow me to work in what was then a very environmentally destructive industry. If that makes me sound like a Green then that is a badge I will wear with honour! l hope you stopped buying anything refrigerated also? The industry is changing towards natural refrigerants, actually this was occurring long before the carbon tax l only assume now this will force it to occur more rapidly.
sjay Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Yes but we do not have a tax on common sense [yet] and that is far more toxic than carbon. the government will not impose a tax that will only apply to 7% of the population. same goes for taxing sex, they would if they could but if they did indeed tax sex we could all lodge massive claims as they have been screwing us for years. 1
comfortablynumb Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Yes but we do not have a tax on common sense [yet] and that is far more toxic than carbon. The problem with common sense is that it not all that common !!! Probably would end up a tax that cost more to collect than cash it raises !!!
ayou2 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 He went in a hot air baloon Powered by SNA. CO2 emissions aren't all bad then ?
wolster Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Tax on a tax is nothing new. You pay income tax, sock some in super, get taxed again. Just one example. Not quite right, CN. Your income is taxed separately (at personal tax rates) to the super contribution which is taxed at 15%. There is no double tax in your example.
sjay Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Not quite right, CN. Your income is taxed separately (at personal tax rates) to the super contribution which is taxed at 15%. There is no double tax in your example. so how about spending your hard earned cash , after paying your PAYG requirement, then copping sales tax and gst on a purchase with already taxed dollars?
LogicprObe Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Another tax thread. I will leave it to the accountants and the zealots. Have fun guys. An opinion is something to be had.
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