yp Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 In view of the grim future of Singaporeans, considering above. Any idea on above subject and its process to do so.
htthach Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 then what? move to another country? what if that country is not so satisfying as well haha I think stay in the new country for a while and apply for citizenship first before considering the above.
Speedsun Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I'm quite open to the idea of migrating when i m much older....quite interested to know how to go about it too :)
Ong Hai Peng Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Afaik cash proceeds are paid upon completion of the sale of your flat. No idea about CPF though.
Chowbotak Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Is it true tat Malaysian PRs cannot withdraw their cpf in full even when they stop working here and return to bolehland for good? What about sinkies who migrate there?
scoobydoo Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Is it true tat Malaysian PRs cannot withdraw their cpf in full even when they stop working here and return to bolehland for good? What about sinkies who migrate there? I think thats true for West Malaysians but not so for East Malaysians.. but I stand to be corrected.
Chowbotak Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Wat stupid excuse did they gave for holding on to the money? ???
domho8 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Wat stupid excuse did they gave for holding on to the money? ??? Bro time to scout for bolehland :)
silencer13 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Actually I have made plans long ago, but I still have 1 unanswered question that no one seems to be able to answer for me: Does the CPF money you get back also include the Medisave? Anyone knows?
aegis0129 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 No time frame but here is the information from the CPF website. http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/CPF/my-cpf/Overseas/LivO9.htm
seagull1624706132 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Bros, Let's not give up so easily. 2016 is just 3 years away. The last election, pappies only garnered 60% of votes. Based on the current swell of negative sentiments on the ground, it would not take much to swing another 10-20 % votes to the other side. What really needs to take place now is for the WP to recruit a team of people ready for the next GE (not necessary high calibre guys like Chen SM, above average guys with good integrity can liao). Let's dig-in man. After all, our relatives, friends and other loved ones are still here right?
yp Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 But bro seagull, There are still a lot who is with the civil service, stat boards, gic companies and the uniformed groups. These may be the ones that will mostly vote for the miw. Don't forget that in the recent white paper rally less than 1 percent of Singaporeans came and most were still sitting on the fence on whether foreigners are good or bad for singapore. With a divided lot of Singaporeans, there is no certainty that pap will gradually lose more seats in time to come. Most Singaporeans do not bother as long as they are presently having a stable job and flat. most cannot be bothered abt the white paper. If this was implemented in Taiwan, South Korea, Indonesia, Hong Kong, u can imagine their response as compared to our very subtle whisper.
silencer13 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Bros, Let's not give up so easily. 2016 is just 3 years away. The last election, pappies only garnered 60% of votes. Based on the current swell of negative sentiments on the ground, it would not take much to swing another 10-20 % votes to the other side. What really needs to take place now is for the WP to recruit a team of people ready for the next GE (not necessary high calibre guys like Chen SM, above average guys with good integrity can liao). Let's dig-in man. After all, our relatives, friends and other loved ones are still here right? Frankly speaking, I do not see much hope for any great change in the near future. Most Singaporeans, after all is said and done, are just selfish. Sure, some may talk loudly and bang table and demand change, curse the government etc etc. But when push comes to shove and elections come, they start thinking - "Oh, if opposition runs my estate then it will be run-down, value will drop etc etc".... Then they tick PAP, but outwardly still support opposition. Then there are the civil servants, the business owners, the vendors doing work for the government and GLCs.... these people are afraid to be black-marked if they vote opposition. (not all of them, I know, but I know too many cases) In a nutshell, they all want change, as long as it doesn't inconvenience them. I said this in the last elections, and I'll say it in the next- "Everyone wants the opposition to win, just not in their ward." This is the sad state we're in now. So if you think 2016 will be any different, I hate to dash your dreams. Yeah, maybe opposition seats will "swell" to 15, maybe 16 seats, but nope, I don't see the PAP going out of power any time soon or changing their stance any time soon.
seagull1624706132 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 So if you think 2016 will be any different, I hate to dash your dreams. Yeah, maybe opposition seats will "swell" to 15, maybe 16 seats, but nope, I don't see the PAP going out of power any time soon or changing their stance any time soon. I look at the situation from this perspective. Current ground anti-pap sentiment is probably at its all-time worst - after the white paper fiasco. In last GE, 6 out of 10 voted for miw. All that is needed is just 1 vote out of the current 6 to swing to Oppo and it is already a 50:50 fight - don't seem an unlikely scenario right? Unless we are saying that all the hue and cry recently against the white paper amounts to nothing and 6 out of 10 continues to vote the same way. If WP can take the next 3 years to recruit and groom sufficient candidate, high chance that several GRCs may be won. Probably the win may not be decisive in 2006 for them to form the next government but if they can win 30% of the seats, then there will indeed be hope in 2021 GE. But i dare say that if miw continues to make 1 or 2 more mega-blunders of this nature, and shooting themselves in the foot over the next 3 years, it would even more so pave the way for the Opps to stroll into parliament. Looking at the current leadership, Lee and his inner circle seems to be very shaken and have lost their bearing. All the damage control so far seems only to backfire.
Guest AndrewC Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 ...So if you think 2016 will be any different, I hate to dash your dreams. Yeah, maybe opposition seats will "swell" to 15, maybe 16 seats, but nope, I don't see the PAP going out of power any time soon or changing their stance any time soon. You may very well be right... it's not just a mindset difference... Brain Scans Can Predict Political Ideology, Study Shows ;D
dsj88 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The problem is not so much % of PAP vs Opposition votes It could be that the Opposition garners more than 50% but their representation can only be 10% because of the way the electoral system works. They foresaw this long time ago and created GRCs. You cannot dismiss further changes if they see another threat coming.
BTW1624705745 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I agree with your fully view.... IMHO the white paper mark the turning point.. coupled by... as more people arrive.. there'll be more congestion and over crowding and of course cost of living will further increase... etc... etc.. I will not be surprise the Election Results in 2016 to be same as the results as the Punggol East By-Election. Honestly, I didn't expect PAP to loose Punggol East.. the results sure surprised the heck out of me..... so I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in 2016... ;) I look at the situation from this perspective. Current ground anti-pap sentiment is probably at its all-time worst - after the white paper fiasco. In last GE, 6 out of 10 voted for miw. All that is needed is just 1 vote out of the current 6 to swing to Oppo and it is already a 50:50 fight - don't seem an unlikely scenario right? Unless we are saying that all the hue and cry recently against the white paper amounts to nothing and 6 out of 10 continues to vote the same way. If WP can take the next 3 years to recruit and groom sufficient candidate, high chance that several GRCs may be won. Probably the win may not be decisive in 2006 for them to form the next government but if they can win 30% of the seats, then there will indeed be hope in 2021 GE. But i dare say that if miw continues to make 1 or 2 more mega-blunders of this nature, and shooting themselves in the foot over the next 3 years, it would even more so pave the way for the Opps to stroll into parliament. Looking at the current leadership, Lee and his inner circle seems to be very shaken and have lost their bearing. All the damage control so far seems only to backfire.
econav Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Even if they lost a few more GRC or loss 60% of overall vote , You think they will be out of Biz , I dont think so.
char siew pau Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 It took me one month to get my CPF OA, SA & MA cash. I went to ICA building, completed the application to declare renunciation & talk cock with the young lady interviewer, pay $30+ for the processing fee, gave my IC & passpor. Next day go to CPF AMK, provided bank account number & renunciation application ID & receipt, talk cock again this time with an older lady. She was more interested in me giving her a good service comment card to drop in the box. So last March forced to renounce fuck me government policy due to dual citizenship, April money in account. Now cum back as tourist knn!
econav Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 It took me one month to get my CPF OA, SA & MA cash. I went to ICA building, completed the application to declare renunciation & talk cock with the young lady interviewer, pay $30+ for the processing fee, gave my IC & passpor. Next day go to CPF AMK, provided bank account number & renunciation application ID & receipt, talk cock again this time with an older lady. She was more interested in me giving her a good service comment card to drop in the box. So last March forced to renounce fcuk me government policy due to dual citizenship, April money in account. Now cum back as tourist knn! Next become a FT , maybe PR enjoy all can have and leave as you like ;D
char siew pau Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Ok can. First let me look for a rich hot cougar.
Chowbotak Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Congrats bro! I am staying put at the moment cos I stir have some hope ;D This gahmen needs something more than a tight slap to make them wake up their fucking cb ideas. I suggest give them a broken jaw and fractured legs ;D
char siew pau Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 I would like to see Geylang come Angeles City night life. There is still hope in S'pore. Pimp it.
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