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So far there is thread bout various brand of speakers, perhaps we can include source and amp too. I hope to find like-minded people who like Naim as much as i do.

 

A brief intro bout my Naim Journey, i used to own Naim Nait 3r, 5i amp as for CDP CD 3.5/CD5i and now 202/200/CDX2. In between i had MF, Lavardin, Primare and Arcam before.

 

I choose Naim for it's dynamics, speed, timing and musicality.  Any brother here like Naim too?  :P

 

 

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I have heard a lot of good things about Naim and Dynaudio synergy.

Good to see that you are enjoying that combination.

 

Perhaps I will join you one day. Only problem is that with Naim you need to get a lot of their stuff to get the chemistry going. So thats an expensive proposition.

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Rega P9/Rega Saturn/52/Supercap/135/ATC SCM19

 

Not true you need all Naim to have maximum synergy. Rega works fine. ATC works superbly. Sealed box bass with Harbeth midrange. Heard the Rega Isis CDP recently and it's superb. Reviews indicated it's in the class of CDS3/555PS for less than half the price.

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Yeah i  don't believe in an all Naim setup. But i must admit their CDP is one of the best in the market and if you look at some review the Naim CDP is sometime use as a benchmark. But i am not so much into their speaker and cables. Their speakers and cable are too expensive and imo not worth it, i am currently using custom VDH din cable and VDH speaker wire.

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In terms of VFM, IMHO Rega source is much better VFM. Saturn can give a run for the money with a bare CDX2.

 

Naim are still renowned for their amps, especially the pre-amps. You will be surprised how good the higher end olives pre and power are even when compared to current incarnations. I am using AR Greenlink DIN-RCA which works a treat.

 

Having said that, the CDS2 is one heck of a player. Something I dont mind owning if price is right.

 

Yeah i  don't believe in an all Naim setup. But i must admit their CDP is one of the best in the market and if you look at some review the Naim CDP is sometime use as a benchmark. But i am not so much into their speaker and cables. Their speakers and cable are too expensive and imo not worth it, i am currently using custom VDH din cable and VDH speaker wire.

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For me i am not a fan of Rega Saturn thus i got myself a CDX2. Audit it before and don't like it thus goes for a CDX2 beside i prefer to have a single remote to control my entire system it is also for this reason i goes for CDX2. CDS2 is a great player i must admit.

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Can understand from a point of preference but in terms of performance, Saturn is up there with CDX2. I had a Apollo prior to Saturn, and thus had full confidence it when it comes to matching with a Naim system. It doesnt lose out in pace and timing even when compared to CDS2 but CDS2 has a more organic sound, vinyl like.

 

For me i am not a fan of Rega Saturn thus i got myself a CDX2. Audit it before and don't like it thus goes for a CDX2 beside i prefer to have a single remote to control my entire system it is also for this reason i goes for CDX2. CDS2 is a great player i must admit.

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Can understand from a point of preference but in terms of performance, Saturn is up there with CDX2. I had a Apollo prior to Saturn, and thus had full confidence it when it comes to matching with a Naim system. It doesnt lose out in pace and timing even when compared to CDS2 but CDS2 has a more organic sound, vinyl like.

 

 

I think this is more like brand preferences and i do not wish to comment much on the Rega Vs Naim and which is better, to each of it's own. But i would love to sell the entire  Naim someday and try other brand if i have extra $$$$  :P

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Huh? Sell entire Naim and try other brand? Something you don't like about Naim or you just wanna have a change of sound.

 

For me, if I like a certain house sound I will stick to it and go upwards. If you're game enough, I say try ATC actives with a Naim source. It will be superb. May go that path one day, either with a Naim or Rega source. Sealed box bass rules. Somehow people have phobia of ATC cos of it's hard to drive nature but once well driven, it puts a lot of speaker to shame. There's a reason why it's used in a lot of music studios world wide over. It's ability to dig deep into the music with accuracy is hard to be beaten.

 

I think this is more like brand preferences and i do not wish to comment much on the Rega Vs Naim and which is better, to each of it's own. But i would love to sell the entire  Naim someday and try other brand if i have extra $$$$  :P

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Huh? Sell entire Naim and try other brand? Something you don't like about Naim or you just wanna have a change of sound.

 

For me, if I like a certain house sound I will stick to it and go upwards. If you're game enough, I say try ATC actives with a Naim source. It will be superb. May go that path one day, either with a Naim or Rega source. Sealed box bass rules. Somehow people have phobia of ATC cos of it's hard to drive nature but once well driven, it puts a lot of speaker to shame. There's a reason why it's used in a lot of music studios world wide over. It's ability to dig deep into the music with accuracy is hard to be beaten.

 

 

I like Naim house sound , just thinking of changing to explore other sound. Just a thought though, beside i had heard great comment bout ATC i think your 52/135 is well suit for the ATC not so sure bout my NAP200 though even though Naim are known to drive loads as low as 2 ohm (this is what i heard).

 

I am quite happy with my Naim/Dynaudio combi at the moment.

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No, the NAP200 will not be able to drive the ATCs well enough, not the SCM19 at least. Perhaps with a smaller ATC such as SCM11 or 7 it will be fine.

 

My 250 work fine at normal volumes but if I go louder (past 11 oclock on CD), thermal shutdown got activated. It's a power hungry speakers aright. Thus the need to go one up to 135. The 135 on the other hand worked very well. It ran much cooler with the fans and has a bigger sound. All those hype about 2 ohms...take it with pinch of salt. It's probably true for short duration but if you're talking about continuous listening at loud volumes, you will hit the amp bottleneck especially when dealing with low sensitivity speakers such as ATC.

 

I like Naim house sound , just thinking of changing to explore other sound. Just a thought though, beside i had heard great comment bout ATC i think your 52/135 is well suit for the ATC not so sure bout my NAP200 though even though Naim are known to drive loads as low as 2 ohm (this is what i heard).

 

I am quite happy with my Naim/Dynaudio combi at the moment.

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Well i used to drive a Dyn focus 220 with a 250.2. Doesn't work for me at all. Bass was wooly and overblown. In the end sold it for a loss after a few months. That being said, i've heard the 110 is a better speaker than 220. Think i was too greedy thinking that floorstanders are better.  ;D

 

Was it the original Focus 220  ?  Never heard it...but have read about the same wooly bass issue with this speaker from others as well.

Thats one of the specific shortcomings that Dynaudio addressed with Focus 220 MKII

 

So maybe you shot the wrong guy :-)

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Was it the original Focus 220  ?  Never heard it...but have read about the same wooly bass issue with this speaker from others as well.

Thats one of the specific shortcomings that Dynaudio addressed with Focus 220 MKII

 

So maybe you shot the wrong guy :-)

 

I'm steering clear of Dyns. Maybe the new black series compliments it, but i'm doubtful that my olives will do the job well. It was an expensive lesson learnt as i sold off a super new conditioned run-in spkr at a loss.

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... But i am not so much into their speaker and cables. ...

 

Ya... a friend of mine tells me politely that my SBLs are an "acquired taste"...  ;D

 

Nonetheless, I love it to bits. In my experience, only the DBLs and the acapella sounds as good.

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You havent heard a Naim driven ATC  ;D. BTW, the DBL drivers are from ATC.  ;D

Ya... a friend of mine tells me politely that my SBLs are an "acquired taste"...  ;D

 

Nonetheless, I love it to bits. In my experience, only the DBLs and the acapella sounds as good.

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Well i used to drive a Dyn focus 220 with a 250.2. Doesn't work for me at all. Bass was wooly and overblown. In the end sold it for a loss after a few months. That being said, i've heard the 110 is a better speaker than 220. Think i was too greedy thinking that floorstanders are better.  ;D

 

I have a small room thus cannot have Floorstander. I learned my lesson too, i downsize from floorstander to 110. So far so good, not much complaint. I don't expect too much from the 110, it is just an entry level bookshelf but it had exceeded my expectation.

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I have a small room thus cannot have Floorstander. I learned my lesson too, i downsize from floorstander to 110. So far so good, not much complaint. I don't expect too much from the 110, it is just an entry level bookshelf but it had exceeded my expectation.

 

Hi Xerox, i like Naim house sound too but had moved on to other makes as Naim is too expensive for me to upgrade.

 

Naim matches very well with Harbeth, try a P3 be it old or new, since you mentioned abt bookshelf.  It is easier to drive, nothing like ATC  ;D  But no doubt, given good power, ATC shines.  Not easy to move away if you like Naim sound.

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I have a small room thus cannot have Floorstander. I learned my lesson too, i downsize from floorstander to 110. So far so good, not much complaint. I don't expect too much from the 110, it is just an entry level bookshelf but it had exceeded my expectation.

 

My room is 3.5m by 3.5m. Should I say downsize or upgrade from Sonus Faber Grand Piano floorstander to Dynaudio 1.3 SE bookself. The amazing dyn bookshelf outclass the sf floorstander in every sonic aspect. :o. There's no turning back. ;D  It needs powerful amp to shine.

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I'm steering clear of Dyns. Maybe the new black series compliments it, but i'm doubtful that my olives will do the job well. It was an expensive lesson learnt as i sold off a super new conditioned run-in spkr at a loss.

 

I think thats fair. A wrong combination can turn out to be an expensive mistake.

Naim power specs do look quite conservative. Perhaps they find it hard to retain their house sound with big chunky amps.

 

 

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I think thats fair. A wrong combination can turn out to be an expensive mistake.

Naim power specs do look quite conservative. Perhaps they find it hard to retain their house sound with big chunky amps.

 

 

 

Yes Naim are conservative about the figure but it don't not mean it is under powered. I felt my 70 watt amp is more powerful then some of the big chunky amp out there thus IMO figure it not everything.

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