khewa Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 I'm thinking of getting the entry level Marantz AV amp with pre outs. The SR4001 should be obsolete soon and I assume that the price should be cheaper than the SR4002. I have no need of HDMI since my CRT TV has no HDMI inputs, nor do I intend to purchase any HD player in the next 3 years. For my needs, SR4001 is sufficient. However, if SR4002 is the same price as SR4001, then I might as well get the latest model and not get an obsolete model. Anyone has any idea if SR4002 cost = SR4001 cost ? also if the cost difference is not too large, then I would also consider the SR4002. any bros here with any cost indications of the SR4002 and the SR4001 ? Do you know if the SR4001 price will go down when SR4002 is available ?
naglfar Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 I'm thinking of getting the entry level Marantz AV amp with pre outs. The SR4001 should be obsolete soon and I assume that the price should be cheaper than the SR4002. I have no need of HDMI since my CRT TV has no HDMI inputs, nor do I intend to purchase any HD player in the next 3 years. For my needs, SR4001 is sufficient. However, if SR4002 is the same price as SR4001, then I might as well get the latest model and not get an obsolete model. Anyone has any idea if SR4002 cost = SR4001 cost ? also if the cost difference is not too large, then I would also consider the SR4002. any bros here with any cost indications of the SR4002 and the SR4001 ? Do you know if the SR4001 price will go down when SR4002 is available ? Bro, with HDMI becoming the standard now, you might want to re-think your strategy. I have an SR5001, bought about almost a year ago. At that time, I didn'tI think I needed an HDMI receiver. But I'm glad I did! Now I'm running the Oppo 981HD through the 5001 through HDMI, and using the Optoma HD70, also via HDMI. Very happy with th setup! Now still thinking about HD source....a PS3 might be on the way soon. My 2 cents....
petetherock Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Bro if you are considering spending $$ on a new amp, see the offerings in the "1.5k" thread and see my comments on whether adding a power amp to your basic amp will make any difference in sound. Better to get a nice amp first time round eg the SR 8 or 7 xxx range. Ditto on the number of HDMI, but as an owner of a non-HDMI amp, I am happily surviving without the HDMI, hooking up my inputs directly to the panel and still able to enjoy good PQ and more importantly good SQ.
SiriuslyCold Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 I think khewa already has power amps with his current setup, and looking for preamp options I agree with naglfar about HDMI - more of your new sources will come with HDMI and you might find yourself in a position of having to upgrade receivers if you choose one without now. re reduction in price of older range, I'm not sure it happens if at all, and the reductionw ill probably be not significant.
jitcheng Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Where is SR4001 and SR4002 made in? I'm considering the low end models too and Onkyo SR605 is made in Malaysia - a big minus point.
SiriuslyCold Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 China I would guess. If you are - as you say "considering low end models" where do you expect them to be made? Japan? US?
kzone Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Made in malaysia is good actually.. less knocks & shakes during transportation to Sin.. many typhoons & storms in taiwan & china coasts now. Made in Japan products have to go through them on the way to Sin. While cosmetically they may not be affected, imagine u being on a ship in a storm.. ;D ;D
hoseki Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 I am currently using SR4001 as a preout function. It does have 2 HDMI inputs. Bought it primary as a stop gap receiver late last year till the dusk settle on HDMI changes. Cheers
synthesis1624705793 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Ditto on the number of HDMI, but as an owner of a non-HDMI amp, I am happily surviving without the HDMI, hooking up my inputs directly to the panel and still able to enjoy good PQ and more importantly good SQ. I'm still happy with HDMI-less ancient Marantz SR7300 and I don't feel the need to upgrade at the moment. The sound quality is pretty good. I don't like to route video through receiver. But probably it's just me.. ;) ..., imagine u being on a ship in a storm.. ;D ;D Been there more or less. You don't wanna be there.... ;D
khewa Posted October 6, 2007 Author Posted October 6, 2007 yes, I do have an amp (it's a Naim) for my music listening. So I'm primarily using the AV receiver as a preamp, and also to drive the center speaker and the back surrounds. Should not be much of a load for any receivers. the SR4001 has HDMI, it's version 1.1. So it is future proof in a way for HD if I choose to go that route, the SR4002 has version 1.3 and as far as I know, main differentiator is the sound and video in one cable, not too big deal anyway since it's just an extra cable for HDMI version 1.1 for the sound. Thank goodness for digital, else I'll have to deal with 5 cables for sound. Yes, the SR8x and SR7x would be good, but thinking of putting my dollars into the stereo equipment (upgrade of preamp, amp, CD player and maybe some acoustic treatment.) Upgrade of the Naim gear will not be cheap, need to conserve the finances for that. thanks all for your views.
SiriuslyCold Posted October 6, 2007 Posted October 6, 2007 the SR4001 has HDMI, it's version 1.1. So it is future proof in a way for HD if I choose to go that route, the SR4002 has version 1.3 and as far as I know, main differentiator is the sound and video in one cable, not too big deal anyway since it's just an extra cable for HDMI version 1.1 for the sound. actually HDMI 1.0 carries both audio and video on the same cable the only difference is that 1.3 carries bitstream TrueHD and DTS Master Audio chek out the HDMI website on the differences between the versions If you have a player that decodes both these formats HDMI 1.3 [and decoding in the receiver] is irrelevant. (there's also "deep color", but no current video format has it)
armoury Posted October 18, 2007 Posted October 18, 2007 My view would be that even if you don't have an HDMI capable TV right now, better to future-proof yourself. Unless you fully expect to dump this entry-level receiver when you get a new TV as well? Which seems unlikely. My receiver doesn't have HDMI, but that's because it's 5 yrs old. (And since it's a very nice SR8200, firmware upgraded to 8300 spec, I am still quite happy with it.) However, when I got my plasma 3 yrs back, HDMI was a must-have for me, and I'm glad I required it, even if it only has one HDMI input, which really isn't enough these days. But at least I'm better off than my good buddy who got an old Panny without any HDMI at all, and now he's in a dilemma especially since he now has a PS3 and BR discs (I still haven't got any hi-res players or discs).
Guest brenton1624705881 Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Marantz 4001 and 4002 difference by less than 100 bucks, just bought the receiver..... waiting for delivery now.... both around 5xx listened to both 605 and marantz 4002, in the end, i chose marantz The salesman was good enough to recommend me to get the 4001 instead of onkyo 605 but luckily i decided to spend a bit more and get the 4002, even after the salesman insisted that there is no difference in 4001 and 4002 not very sure about that, but always good to get a new set mah....otherwise spend so much for what... Anyone know the main difference in 4001 and 4002??
khewa Posted November 24, 2007 Author Posted November 24, 2007 Marantz 4001 and 4002 difference by less than 100 bucks, just bought the receiver..... waiting for delivery now.... both around 5xx listened to both 605 and marantz 4002, in the end, i chose marantz The salesman was good enough to recommend me to get the 4001 instead of onkyo 605 but luckily i decided to spend a bit more and get the 4002, even after the salesman insisted that there is no difference in 4001 and 4002 not very sure about that, but always good to get a new set mah....otherwise spend so much for what... Anyone know the main difference in 4001 and 4002?? I finally bought the 4002. More for future proofing than anything else. I was also in the same boat as you and dd some research on the differences between 4001 and 4002. The salesman basically don't know their products very well. The main difference between 4002 and 4001 is the HDMI 1.3 is supported in 4002 only. That comes with the support for HD audio codecs TrueHD and DTS Master Audio, as mentioned by bro SiriuslyCold. Also 4001 has 2 HDMI inputs and 3 component inputs vs 4002 which has 3 HDMI inputs and 2 component inputs. So if you have a lot of legacy video sources with component outputs, then 4001 would be right for you. So much for the salesman talk about no difference. I'm basically bypassing all the video to the receiver and hooking it directly to the TV from the video source, so not a problem for me. Why have an extra component in the middle if you don't really need it. Anyway, biggest deciding factor was if I decide to sell it, at least the 4002 would not be an obsolete product for the next 1 year, so should fetch a higher resale price than a used 4001.
Guest brenton1624705881 Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 Hooked up??? i am enjoying the audio so much now that i have no regrets spending twice the amount i would spend on a yamaha rxv361+nsp110 set available in HN Ups for Marantz
snip3r Posted November 26, 2007 Posted November 26, 2007 I just tested out the 4002 and the Tannoy SFX 5.1 ( http://www.tannoy-speakers.com/s.php?product=284&title=SFX+5.1&s=66 ) . Great looks great sound! I was just wondering where can I combo the 4002 and the Paradigm ct90 for audition and how does it fair with the Tannoy.
ekardo Posted November 26, 2007 Posted November 26, 2007 I thinking of getting either one too... so Marant 4002 needs to connect many cable to the TV? (cannot just connect the HDMI cable?) also, can someone recommend me a speaker and subwoofer at the price range of $500 ?? my living room cannot accomodate standing speaker..
snip3r Posted November 26, 2007 Posted November 26, 2007 the tannoy satellites fit the bill. SRP $799
ekardo Posted November 29, 2007 Posted November 29, 2007 looks good... you are referring to the FX 5.1 right?
tas888 Posted November 29, 2007 Posted November 29, 2007 I was recommended sr 4002 by alpha audio saleman,but compare to denon 2308,which one is better?
snip3r Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 may I know the price for the denon? It has Faroudja DCDi Processing up to 1080p as compared to the 4002. Is this feature important and it's significance to PQ? Thanks.
tas888 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 i think denon 2308 is ard 900 plus.I think the 2308 can upscale up 1080p.
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