Protocol1624705808 Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Specifically Shinco DVD player, for those with a Shinco DVD player, does it support dts?
Doggie Howser Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Specifically Shinco DVD player, for those with a Shinco DVD player, does it support dts? My old one does. Model 318 I think
cracker Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 interesting topic.. actually which unit is decoding the DTS format, the dvd player or the AV amp ? so does it mean if a dvd player doesnt support DTS format,, there is absolutely no way to enjoy DTS format from such player.
Doggie Howser Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 According to the specs of the Shinco, it has built in DTS decoders over the analog outputs but I never used it before. I use optical out to the AV receiver. I think Protocol is miffed cos his new Shinco HDMI doesn't output DTS over HDMI
Protocol1624705808 Posted September 12, 2007 Author Posted September 12, 2007 My old one does. Model 318 I think Does your Shinco player have the dts logo on it? My old Shinco 8830 can playback dts although it doesn't have the dts logo ... I was told by someone from Shinco that all the current Shinco DVD player DOES NOT support dts ... what a shame ... :(
Protocol1624705808 Posted September 12, 2007 Author Posted September 12, 2007 According to the specs of the Shinco, it has built in DTS decoders over the analog outputs but I never used it before. I use optical out to the AV receiver. I think Protocol is miffed cos his new Shinco HDMI doesn't output DTS over HDMI I bought Shinco cos I like the fact that my old Shinco can play all sorts of format (well almost) ... incl mpeg format simply burnt as data also can play ... Anyway, I'm using coax/optical out for my Shinco player but both also getting hissing/distortion noise instead of dts ... where Shinco SPDIF out is set to RAW ...
Protocol1624705808 Posted September 12, 2007 Author Posted September 12, 2007 The background : http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=47820.0
DanDon Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 You are right. Shinco 8830 can play DTS although it does not have the DTS logo. See article here http://www.connectedhomemag.com/HomeTheater/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=43123. Extract: The player and manual make no mention of DTS compatibility, but in my tests DTS came through just fine from both the digital and 6-channel analog audio connections. The analog outputs are primarily intended for use with EVD’s proprietary EAC 5.1 surround-sound format—another ploy to get out of paying licensing fees to Dolby and DTS, I imagine. My old Shinco 8830 can playback dts although it doesn't have the dts logo ...
DanDon Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 In order to enjoy DTS, both DVD player and AV receiver must have DTS decoder. interesting topic.. actually which unit is decoding the DTS format, the dvd player or the AV amp ? so does it mean if a dvd player doesnt support DTS format,, there is absolutely no way to enjoy DTS format from such player.
Doggie Howser Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Does your Shinco player have the dts logo on it? My old Shinco 8830 can playback dts although it doesn't have the dts logo ... I was told by someone from Shinco that all the current Shinco DVD player DOES NOT support dts ... what a shame ... :( Weird I just chkd the DVD player and yeah it has no DTS logo, but I definitely recall seeing it on the box cos it was a feature I was looking for. Maybe Shinco thought they could get away from paying the licencing fee if they didn't include the logo but had the DTS compatibility until they got found out and had to cease and desist.
cracker Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 You are right. Shinco 8830 can play DTS although it does not have the DTS logo. See article here http://www.connectedhomemag.com/HomeTheater/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=43123. Extract: The player and manual make no mention of DTS compatibility, but in my tests DTS came through just fine from both the digital and 6-channel analog audio connections. The analog outputs are primarily intended for use with EVD’s proprietary EAC 5.1 surround-sound format—another ploy to get out of paying licensing fees to Dolby and DTS, I imagine. So actually who is decoding the signal ....the player or the AVR ? if I were to use the DVD player analog audio out ,,,ie (6 cables) and plugged to the AVR 5.1 input....I will be able to get DTS sound when I made the change on the DVD. Does the same explanation apply if the dvd player is connected via optic cable to the AVR if either unit doesnt support DTS ?
DanDon Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I only know that DTS sound can be enjoyed by using coaxial, optical or hdmi cable from DVD player to AV receiver. I have yet used analog audio out. Maybe some bro here can answer this. You need DTS audio out from DVD player for AV receiver to decode the DTS signal. Refer here http://www.5dot1.com/what_is_5_1_.html for the difference between Dobly Digital and DTS. So actually who is decoding the signal ....the player or the AVR ? if I were to use the DVD player analog audio out ,,,ie (6 cables) and plugged to the AVR 5.1 input....I will be able to get DTS sound when I made the change on the DVD. Does the same explanation apply if the dvd player is connected via optic cable to the AVR if either unit doesnt support DTS ?
armoury Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 So actually who is decoding the signal ....the player or the AVR ? if I were to use the DVD player analog audio out ,,,ie (6 cables) and plugged to the AVR 5.1 input....I will be able to get DTS sound when I made the change on the DVD. Does the same explanation apply if the dvd player is connected via optic cable to the AVR if either unit doesnt support DTS ? Hmmm... I didnt' think this would be an issue in this day and age when just about all DVD players and AVRs support DTS. In the old days, some DVD players did not decode DTS and could not handle DTS at all. With those you would be SOOL, even if your AVR could decode DTS, since the player couldn't even pass the DTS signal out. The so-called "DTS-ready" players could at least pass the DTS signal to the AVR, even though they themselves could not decode it, so your AVR would decode DTS and everything would be fine. And in the unlikely event your player can decode DTS in full but your AVR can't, then you must use analog outputs to connect the player to the AVR (rather similar to AVRs that can't decode SACD or DVD-A, but you have a player that does -- which is exactly my situation).
Protocol1624705808 Posted September 15, 2007 Author Posted September 15, 2007 Hmmm... I didnt' think this would be an issue in this day and age when just about all DVD players and AVRs support DTS. In the old days, some DVD players did not decode DTS and could not handle DTS at all. With those you would be SOOL, even if your AVR could decode DTS, since the player couldn't even pass the DTS signal out. This seems to be the case for the current batch of Shinco DVD player ... it can't pass the DTS signal out to my decoder to decode DTS ...
DanDon Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 I tried using 7.1 channels analog last night to play DTS disc and able to receive the audio signal. But the audio is soft and not dynamic. So the best is to use digital. I only know that DTS sound can be enjoyed by using coaxial, optical or hdmi cable from DVD player to AV receiver. I have yet used analog audio out. Maybe some bro here can answer this. You need DTS audio out from DVD player for AV receiver to decode the DTS signal. Refer here http://www.5dot1.com/what_is_5_1_.html for the difference between Dobly Digital and DTS.
petetherock Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 I suggest you avoid the 7.1 out for a Shinco, their DACs are not the best, leave it to your amp, if it is a mid-range one Also I have a Shinco and it does DTS no issue, cannot remember the model as I have packed it away.
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