Denon AVR-4308 Specification

[Guest queks .]

http://www.audioproducts.com.au/APGNZEnduser/PDFs/Denon/AVR4308_E2.pdf

[Phaton]

http://www.audioproducts.com.au/APGNZEnduser/PDFs/Denon/AVR4308_E2.pdf

 

It's sad that even at this price pt. THX is not included in the specs.

[freebird2003]

THX is vital for home theater but i am sure the new models of denon is powerfull even without the thx certification.

[Phaton]

THX is vital for home theater but i am sure the new models of denon is powerfull even without the thx certification.

 

Not worry about the power but more of the sound field generated through THX mode, it made a big difference especially on THX disc. Try playing Starwars with and without THX and you will know what I mean.

[desray]

Again...I think alot of people mis-understand the awarding of THX certification liaoz...With THX certification, customer can be 'assured' of the stringent tests and standards that the Amp/AVR will undergo during production...and its not rated in terms of how 'powerful' the unit can produce.

 

Having said that, unless you REALLY REALLY like the THX way of sound processing - such as THX Music, Cinema, Cinema2, THX Surround EX etc (these are DSP employed by THX)...or you like the idea of THX Amp/AVR do for Timbre matching, Equalization etc...Then yes, THX certification may be the way to go...But no, its not a die-die must haves IMO and most important of all, I dun think there is anymore 'direct' co-relation with the price tag.

 

[petetherock]

Hi des

I thought THX does have something to do with power?

 

THX assures us that the power needed is enough for different size spaces:

 

http://www.timefordvd.com/tutorial/THX.shtml

 

"What is the difference between "THX Select" and "THX Ultra"?

 

For receivers and loudspeakers, the THX Select certification is for components that are certified to perform in a mid-sized home theater environment of up to 2,000 cubic feet.  The volume of a room, expressed in cubic feet, is computed by multiplying the length by the width by the height of the room.  (For example, a room that is 18 feet wide by 14 feet wide by 9 feet high, has a volume of 18 x 14 x 9 = 2,268 cubic feet.)  The more stringent THX Ultra certification (which is equivalent to the original, plain THX certification) is given to components that meet the THX performance standards for larger home theater environments (up to 3,000 cubic feet).  Theoretically, if you have a home theater environment that is 2,000 cubic feet or less, THX Select receivers and loudspeakers should deliver about the same presentation standards as the higher-end THX Ultra components. "

 

 

I agree people don't understand THX enough. But anyway, that power rating of the Denon 3xxx and 43xx series is a little overrated, for real power you need the 49xx or 48xx or the higher 5xxx series.

[desray]

Hi Pete, the word 'powerful' (notice put put a quote '' to it?) bears a different meaning I am trying to convey...I have no doubt about the way they've given out different classes of THX certification for different HT space - such as different room sizes can have THX Select and THX Ultra2 processing for more power in the latter...but if we're talking merely about nominal values here...then seriously THX certification really have no direct relationship with the meaning of 'power' here...

 

[Phaton]

Again...I think alot of people mis-understand the awarding of THX certification liaoz...With THX certification, customer can be 'assured' of the stringent tests and standards that the Amp/AVR will undergo during production...and its not rated in terms of how 'powerful' the unit can produce.

 

Having said that, unless you REALLY REALLY like the THX way of sound processing - such as THX Music, Cinema, Cinema2, THX Surround EX etc (these are DSP employed by THX)...or you like the idea of THX Amp/AVR do for Timbre matching, Equalization etc...Then yes, THX certification may be the way to go...But no, its not a die-die must haves IMO and most important of all, I dun think there is anymore 'direct' co-relation with the price tag.

 

 

Tell me so if future AVR with THX Ultra 2 plus doesn't come with a higher price tag. Till then I remain sceptical on pricing not tight to additonal certifications. Maybe they will come up with a 5308 with THX certification but under the hood it is infact a 4308 in disguise :o and not having to forget a higher MSRP ;D

[ALERT1624705860]

http://www.timefordvd.com/tutorial/THX.shtml

 

"First, it is important to realize that THX is a quantitative measure of quality that works in conjunction with the different surround sound formats (e.g., Dolby Digital and DTS) to bring the quality of the sound presentation to the highest standards." 

 

Now I'm confused. My understanding is that THX is an audio coding standard just like DTS or DD. In order to enjoy THX soundtracks from a movie DVD (of course the DVD must be coded with THX soundtrack) I need a receiver which have THX decoder (i.e THX certified) Am I right or wrong???  ::)

 

Also, is there anywhere that I can find a list of THX movie DVDs?

[insomia]

guys, for those who feel confused about THX certification.. pls read this fanstastic article. you will notice that you dont need a so call THX certified avr in order to play THX certified DVD... THX is a certification standard not format.

 

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_13_1/feature-article-thx-1-2006-part-1.html

 

cheers

[desray]

guys, for those who feel confused about THX certification.. pls read this fanstastic article. you will notice that you dont need a so call THX certified avr in order to play THX certified DVD... THX is a certification standard not format.

 

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_13_1/feature-article-thx-1-2006-part-1.html

 

cheers

 

That's what I am trying to drive at all these while, bro.

 

[desray]

http://www.timefordvd.com/tutorial/THX.shtml

 

"First, it is important to realize that THX is a quantitative measure of quality that works in conjunction with the different surround sound formats (e.g., Dolby Digital and DTS) to bring the quality of the sound presentation to the highest standards." 

 

Now I'm confused. My understanding is that THX is an audio coding standard just like DTS or DD. In order to enjoy THX soundtracks from a movie DVD (of course the DVD must be coded with THX soundtrack) I need a receiver which have THX decoder (i.e THX certified) Am I right or wrong???  ::)

 

Also, is there anywhere that I can find a list of THX movie DVDs?

 

The article is talking about the THX very own DSP here. The engineers of THX is trying to use a balanced DSP here to cater to BOTH DTS/Dolby Digital sound formats presently found in the market. It's NOT a new sound format per se. Its a form of new DSP - just like DTS got DTS Neo 6 and Dolby got Dolby PLIIx so on and so forth...

 

 

[insomia]

That's what I am trying to drive at all these while, bro.

 

 

yeah i know what you meant.. happen to bookmark the article and find it very useful for people who are confused with the marketing tatics..

[ALERT1624705860]

Thanks for clarifying my doubts. Now I don't really need to consider about the THX tag when selecting an AVR.

[imbest]

any owner of this amp so far?