Panny 50PV70H Spec - please interpret this for me.

[seeth]

"Applicable PC signals  |  XGA (SXGA compressed)"

 

This plasma has a resolution of 1366 x 768.

How can I connect a PC and set to the max. resolution of 1366 x 768?

 

Or does it mean that it cannot support 1366 x 768 when feed with PC signal? What is SXGA compressed?

 

Thanks!

[imbest]

why dun you bring ur laptop down and test it at the store? I'm keen to find out too hehe....

[dmateo]

yeah..that is interesting..

it's probalby 1920x1080 compressed to 720p :D

[hellowk]

Sorry to hijacked this thread....but any idea what is the price for the panny 50pv700 and the pv70?

[keai]

"Applicable PC signals  |   XGA (SXGA compressed)"

 

This plasma has a resolution of 1366 x 768.

How can I connect a PC and set to the max. resolution of 1366 x 768?

 

Thanks!

 

best way i know is to connect by VGA and set ur pc resolution to 1368x768 60hz. if ur pc don't have this resolution config, download a software called powerstrip to force to the config. you can achieve a dot to dot match by VGA connection. DVI connection will also do but with overscan or underscan issue.

 

Note: This is what I learn from those who own PV70 through internet, i myself never tested before, also keen to know the results.....

[dmateo]

Sorry to hijacked this thread....but any idea what is the price for the panny 50pv700 and the pv70?

 

Look at the Panasonic thread http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=47320.45

[hellowk]

Thanks bro:)

 

[seeth]

"Applicable PC signals  |   XGA (SXGA compressed)"

 

 

From what I read elsewhere, XGA means 1024 x 768 only. Don't tell me if I connect via VGA to TV I still cannot get 1366 x 768. Because XGA only! and that means only 1024 x 768?

[dmateo]

it does make sense isn't it. it can only support up to 768p..:)

[seeth]

If you look at it this way it does'nt make sense. The panel has more resolution that 1024x768. Why cannot fully use the 1366x768 of the panel when connected to PC?

[dmateo]

you'll get 1024 x 768 mapped int 1336 x 768 if you can force the display to display it that way.

but doing so you'll ruin the picture ratio, so you're picture will seems wider than what it's supposed to be.

 

Depending on your preference, if this is what you want and assuming your tv is capable of it, I'm sure it can be done.

 

My old 26" sharp LCD TV can do this, although I prefer to keep my resoluton ast 1024 x 768 as it looks more natural to me.

 

The best bet obviously to get one of the forummer to try it out.. :D

[c7221624705751]

"Applicable PC signals  |  XGA (SXGA compressed)"

 

This plasma has a resolution of 1366 x 768.

How can I connect a PC and set to the max. resolution of 1366 x 768?

 

Or does it mean that it cannot support 1366 x 768 when feed with PC signal? What is SXGA compressed?

 

Thanks!

 

dude SXGA=1280x1024.

 

btw 1366x768 is not a VESA resolution. Note 1366 is not a multiple of 8, a lot of graphic drivers have problem running in this resolution so dun be so sure ur PC driver supports it. Also a lot of plasmas do not take native resolution from HDMI/DVI, so even if u can get 1366 out from ur PC it doesn't mean u will pixel perfect displayed.  The only way to tell is to simply try it out.

[keai]

read some more documents on the topic and the conclusion is:

 

1) DVI->HDMI connection is possible provided the graphic card is separate card (on-board card will be a problem) and N-card 8000+ series is preferred, A-card may have black screen problem

 

2) VGA->VGA for most cases no problem

[seeth]

read some more documents on the topic and the conclusion is:

 

1) DVI->HDMI connection is possible provided the graphic card is separate card (on-board card will be a problem) and N-card 8000+ series is preferred, A-card may have black screen problem

 

2) VGA->VGA for most cases no problem

 

Thanks for reading up on this topic! Are you saying the above for Panny 50PV70H or generally for hdtvs?

 

1) = Panny 50PV70H will accept 1366x768 through its HDMI socket if you have the right graphics card?

 

2) = Panny 50PV70H will accept 1366x768 through its VGA socket if the PC graphic card can output this reso

 

 

[keai]

Bro Seeth, frankly speaking, i myself never did any testing on PV50, all these info come from internet, so it might be wrong.

 

My understanding is:

1) VGA->VGA 1:1 pixel mapping can be successful when you have a graphic card which allow your pc output 1366x768 signal and make sure your tv is set to wxga mode. (this method is confirmed by many plasma tv owners, including panny owners, but i didn't read anyone with PV50 reported that yet,  :()

 

2) DVI->HDMI 1:1 pixel mapping is claimed to be unseccessful by many owners initially but latest reports point out that it's due to on-board graphic card. If you have a proper stand-alone card which allows 1366x768 output, it can be successful.

 

in a word, 1366x768 output from pc is a must for 1:1 pixel mapping, but as this resolution is not a standard one (try 1366/8 and see whether u get a integer or not), it is not supported by some graphic cards, usually u will get 1360x768 output (underscan problem) or 1368x768 output (overscan issue). Most of the articles recommend N-card because it is more flexible for resolution adjustment (Nvidia usually comes with a tool which allow user to add in customized resolution), 8000+ series N-card is highly recommended.

 

hope the info helps. I'm going for panny 50" if tmr price is acceptable. my current pc graphic card is 6600GT, i did a quick try but not able to add 1366x768 as customized resolution, to prove DVI also works, probably have to get a 8600GT to test it out.

 

Any expert can help to verify?

[keai]

From what I read elsewhere, XGA means 1024 x 768 only. Don't tell me if I connect via VGA to TV I still cannot get 1366 x 768. Because XGA only! and that means only 1024 x 768?

 

some info from wiki on WXGA, it may help to explain how plasma TV can get 1366x768 with pc input:

 

Wide XGA (WXGA) is a set of non standard resolutions derived from the XGA display standard by widening it to a wide screen aspect ratio. WXGA is generally understood to refer to a resolution of 1366×768, with an aspect ratio of 16:9. In 2006 this was the most popular resolution for liquid crystal display televisions and HD ready plasma flat panel displays.[citation needed]

 

Other resolutions have also been labeled as WXGA. These are the most common resolutions given the label (in ascending order by total number of pixels):

 

    * 1280×720[1]

    * 1280×768[2]

    * 1280×800[3]

    * 1360×768[4]

    * 1366×768[5]

 

WXGA is commonly used by LCD TV sets and computer monitors for widescreen presentation. The 1366×nnn resolutions commonly apply to LCD TVs while the 1280×nnn resolutions are found mostly in notebooks/laptops.

 

1280×720 provides perfectly square pixels at an aspect ratio of 16:9, while the additional pixels in 1280×768 and 1280×800 must be ignored to give the 16:9 ratio without vertical stretching of the image. 1360×768 and 1366×768 come very close to 16:9, displaying exactly square pixels if 1360×765 pixels of the display are used.

 

720p, the HDTV video mode, is a related standard, measuring 1280×720 pixels.

 

1440×900 resolution displays have also been found labeled as WXGA; however, the correct label is actually WSXGA or WXGA+.

[keai]

got my pv70 today, and my friend helped me set up the HTPC last night, couldn't wait and tried right after the tv was ready, connection via DVI->VGA connect to pv70 VGA, amazingly found that there was totally no overscan or underscan, the screen fits in perfectly and even the texts are perfectly clear. played a 720p HDTV clip and impressed with the PQ, have to say that's a fantastic plasma for HTPC!