petetherock Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 I notice this is a common question encountered at least once a week, so I decided to compile the knowledge into this thread and whenever some new bro asks, they can be referred to the information the pros here have contributed. A simple search reveals a good dozen good threads, plus some in the subwoofer section even. Some notes: Sats (as they will be shortened to) - are not value for money (VFM) - they usually have lousy mids especially the cheaper examples - will need a subwoofer to fill in, some crossover at 100 Hz but if they can reach 80Hz, thats more ideal as the bass unit will be less localisable - they can be mounted on walls or stands - I suggest hanging them first before permanently fixing them, so you can figure out the ideal spot - they can suck up quite a bit of power, many of them being inefficicent so a good amp with at least 70-100 real watts per channel is useful - not all of them are light so make sure your mounts can take them - they are better for HT than music So with so many issues, why buy them?? I ask that of our bros often when they want the cutesy thing. Simple reason - WAF -- wife acceptance factor ---- "I need to blend in with my decor" / "my wife / partner doesn't want the speakers to dominate the room" / "my kids might destroy the speakers" Well then, that is a choice, and I respect that, but don't ask why they sound worse than someone else's setup for the same money and where the mid went :) It is harder but still possible to integrate the sound, a bit more effort and a realistic expectation is needed.
petetherock Posted June 24, 2007 Author Posted June 24, 2007 Now to the examples: Price should exclude subwoofers unless indicated, if you can spend more on the sub, it may get you a more powerful one with tighter bass and take the need for power on the amp off basic budgets < 1k PSB Intro - Merdeka SLS (Sim Lim Square) about 6xx$ plus subwoofer Morduant Short Genies - KEC Mirage They come in various sizes and costs Nanosats Omnisats http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=44422.0 ** friends and bros who know more, please add ** thanks
petetherock Posted June 25, 2007 Author Posted June 25, 2007 Klipsch Quintets series II or III Horn speakers with a unique sound Very cheap from Amazon and make decent sats KEF 2005 series the 3xxx series cost a bit more GP acoustics Q Acoustics (a bit bigger in size) Monitor Audio Radius series Nice sound, "friendly" salesperson :) - you just have to know Edward well, Precision Audio Adelphi I don't think there are other MA dealers in SG Energy Take 5 Well reviewed, and been around for a long time SVS sats - available only online Bro koma has them Mission M-Cube Alpha Audio - SLS and Adelphi Defintive Technlogy Pro 60 - KEC Athena Micra 6 Wharfedale Diamond Cinema
petetherock Posted June 25, 2007 Author Posted June 25, 2007 This gets interesting and the sound quality improves and aesthetics also come into play B/W MT series - KEC, Monsoon Some varied opinions on their PV1 subwoofer AE Aego M series http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=40504.0 http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=42206.0 Morel soundspot stream Mk11 Anthony Gallo nucleus micro - well reviewed and look good
petetherock Posted June 25, 2007 Author Posted June 25, 2007 A good comparison chart I found from bro S.C. http://www.geocities.com/p_iturra/Misc_HT_Speakers.html http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=15345.0
petetherock Posted June 25, 2007 Author Posted June 25, 2007 If you can get speakers which are like sats on steroids: Paradigm Atoms - Asia Sound Adelphi PSB Alpha - SLS Merdeka Mission M3 series - Alpha Audio JBL Control series - World of Audio - SLS Blueroom pods
petetherock Posted June 25, 2007 Author Posted June 25, 2007 A suggested placement of speakers by dolby digital http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/roomlayout2.html
petetherock Posted June 25, 2007 Author Posted June 25, 2007 Some threads on 5.1 speakers: http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=44540.0 And if you cannot resist their marketing, there is always Bose... :)
dmateo Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 Pete, I think MT series lowest prices is in the range of 2K +++ something like 2600 if I recall correctly from streetprize ? AE Aego T might be in the sub 2K range. Cheers This gets interesting and the sound quality improves and aesthetics also come into play B/W MT series - KEC, Monsoon Some varied opinions on their PV1 subwoofer Morel soundspot stream Mk11 Anthony Gallo nucleus micro - well reviewed and look good
petetherock Posted June 25, 2007 Author Posted June 25, 2007 Thanks for the feedback, I need such price updates :) PS: I think I put the < instead of > :D Pete, I think MT series lowest prices is in the range of 2K +++ something like 2600 if I recall correctly from streetprize ? AE Aego T might be in the sub 2K range. Cheers
domj Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 Ok, here's some info based on some sats I listened over the wkend with a fren shopping for a HT system. MS Genie - $14xx Def Tech ProCinema 800 - $1680 Kef 2005.2 - $1350 Kef 3005 - $2350 (was surprised how good it sounded for a sat/sub system) Klipsch Cinema6 - $16xx My fren bought the Kef2005 due to budget constraints else think he sure chiong the 3005..haha.
SiriuslyCold Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 There was a thread that has Paradigm CT90s satellite system for $820
ralfale Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 Nice thread :D I'm pretty sure im one of those that asked this question for the past week ;D Wharfdale 9 with sub -around $1.3k
SiriuslyCold Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 MusicLink AV (in Shaw Tower on Beach Road) used to carry Aura Sound's Whisper Ensemble - small black or white piano gloss sats package for around 1.3K
Jagdpanzer Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 Why nobody mention Bose Acoustimass HT as it has high WAF and blend well in small houses.
SiriuslyCold Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 Why nobody mention Bose Acoustimass HT as it has high WAF and blend well in small houses. because
kosim Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 Orb Audio - good reviews and high WAF but only avail online
petetherock Posted June 26, 2007 Author Posted June 26, 2007 I did The only satellites which are less VFM than the Bose is a Sputnik :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik Why nobody mention Bose Acoustimass HT as it has high WAF and blend well in small houses.
dmateo Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Pete, thought that one blew up in space already.... ;D ;D I did The only satellites which are less VFM than the Bose is a Sputnik :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik
SiriuslyCold Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 yes... if it hadn't, it'd be more VFM than Bose ;D
petetherock Posted June 26, 2007 Author Posted June 26, 2007 Hey!! NO OT allowed... unless you are tekaning bose :) I think Sunbeam or someone makes Bose lookalikes yes... if it hadn't, it'd be more VFM than Bose ;D
Frank1624705861 Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 M&K closed down already if I'm not wrong.. Yes :'(, maybe I'll win a lottery to visit his factory. But wouldn't it be great to get a pre-owned set at a good price. My initial set lasted me 6 years and still using it.
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