Yeek Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Hi, I just went thru the process of deciding which SVS subwoofer to buy. If you are looking for one too, the attached advice from an SVS tech support might help you decide. The SVS tech support guy's replies are in bold: ************************************************ Hi there, I am going to buy an SVS subwoofer. My application is probably 90% home theatre and 10% music listening. My room is roughly 6.5m x 3.5m x 3.5m. Which model do you recommend for my room and where should I place the sub woofer? *********Here's an idea of what will be required for clean/linear/uncompressed subwoofer operation in your size room at various playback levels: Low To Moderately Loud: PB10-NSD SB12-Plus Moderately Loud To Loud: 20-39PCi or PB12-NSD (equal performers) Loud To Very Loud: 20-39PC-Plus or PB12-Plus (equal performers) PB12-NSD/2 Very Loud to Room-Shaking / Dolby Reference Level*: PB12-Plus/2 dual PB12-NSD or dual 20-39PCi (equal performers) dual 20-39PC-Plus or dual PB12-Plus (equal performers) *Dolby Reference Level requires clean/uncompressed bass peaks (not continuous levels) of ~117 dB at the listening position. If you are outside of the USA, please note we currently don't export cylinder models. Placement near the front stage results in seamless blending with the mains/center, with minimal potential for subwoofer localization. Front stage placement also makes it easier to properly phase the subwoofer with the mains/center using the subwoofer distance control. And why aren't they exporting the cylinder models? Hi Ed, Great stuff! Thanks for the sound advice. I am actually located outside the USA. Why aren't the cylinder models exported? Was hoping to get a cylinder one as they are more efficient in design and space. ********They are currently not CE certified. We are working on a design revision to allow export of the cylinders. We get a lot of request for them.********** The SB12 was looking good till I saw your suggestion. The lower range PB12-NSD with the NSD driver is actually better performer under louder conditions than the SB12 plus with the higher range db12.3 drivers? Wow....cool information. Does it have anything to do with being ported and non-ported? ********The PB12-NSD easily outperforms the SB12-Plus, particularly below 40-45 Hz. Even though the SB12-Plus uses the 12.3 woofer, the laws of physics limit how much performance can be extracted from a 14" cube sealed subwoofer. You are correct, the much larger cabinet and the vented design of the PB12-NSD greatly improve output and efficiency at the deepest frequencies. In fact, the PB10-NSD also outperforms the SB12-Plus below about 40-45 Hz for the same reasons.****** I hope this communication from the SVS tech support helps newbies when they want to buy SVS subwoofers! Cheers! Yeek Update on 22/3/07: Hi again Ed, I really am interested in getting a cylinder. Is there an estimated time when the cylinders can be exported to Singapore? I may want to wait for it rather than buy a box now and regret! Many thanks. Yeek Hey Yeek; The earliest would be late this year and that would only be for the new PC13-Ultra. The other subs wouldn't be until next year at the earliest and I can't even promise they'll ever be redesigned for the export lineup. Let us know if you have any other questions or comments. Erik K
zapp1624705742 Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Nice one Yeek, thumbs up to u for posting this. And nice reply from SVS about the cylinders...i will dig in and wait till their new cylinders are ready for export and buy one SOLID SOLID one :p
Jag Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Erm, should buy 2 cylinders......... solid solid cylinders. :)
Darthfunk Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Basket i should have gotten a PB-12 instead, i want earth shattering effect! But for my new home and a small hall the SB-12 has a huge WAF though (trying o consol myself :'().
petetherock Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Hey don't fret, it is still a good sub. I asked Erik before and he recommended 2 SB12+ or 1 single PB12+, so you can still get another SB12+ this time round :) But I hope their QC standards are ok, just read about bro rahul's issue. Basket i should have gotten a PB-12 instead, i want earth shattering effect! But for my new home and a small hall the SB-12 has a huge WAF though (trying o consol myself :'().
velocity1624705768 Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Hey Yeek; The earliest would be late this year and that would only be for the new PC13-Ultra. Woohooo....looks like cylinders may be on the menu again...count me in if there is any MO.
armoury Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 ********They are currently not CE certified. We are working on a design revision to allow export of the cylinders. We get a lot of request for them.********** I wonder why CE certification is a relevant consideration for us Asians? EU regulations don't apply here, after all. Good to know it's in the works, anyway, I have a 25-31PCi and whilst I'm very happy with it, if I ever wanted to upgrade, it would be to another cylinder, preferably an Ultra, so the fact that the new Ultra may be available for export is good news (to me at least).
deepakvali Posted April 10, 2007 Posted April 10, 2007 I wonder why CE certification is a relevant consideration for us Asians? EU regulations don't apply here, after all. Good to know it's in the works, anyway, I have a 25-31PCi and whilst I'm very happy with it, if I ever wanted to upgrade, it would be to another cylinder, preferably an Ultra, so the fact that the new Ultra may be available for export is good news (to me at least). however you will have to sell your Cylinder before SVS starts to export the Cylinders, else these Cylinders we are holding onto would depreciate more heavily as compared to now ;) ;)
audiovideo Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 looks like if I want deeper bass at a more affordable price I have to go for PB10-NSD instead od SB12+
Doggie Howser Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 I got the older PB12ISD/V. Still serving me well. Now coupled with the Crowson's shakers.. yummy
petetherock Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 BTw for all those getting new subs, you may wish to get a 5m cable at least, 3m IMO is rather short and limits the potential for shifting positions later.
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