yellowhandman Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 The entire Thai football federation should be banned, the 2nd leg on Sunday should be cancelled, and Singapore should be awarded the cup. I've never seen anything so disgraceful in over 20 years of watching football. Given the tensions between Singapore and Thailand presently, I would not ask our boys to go over there for the game. But knowing how ASEAN football is run - with everyone trying to be politically correct - this farcical behaviour by Thailand will just be swept under the carpet as an 'emotional response' or 'misunderstanding', and nothing will be done. At the very least, since ref wisely did not start handing out red cards for the delay, the AFF can look at video, identify the main instigators, and ban them for several months, if not years. There was at least one Thai player clearly motioning to the rest to leave the pitch.
f_spider Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 I hav to admit , wat d Thai did was un called for , blatantly unsporting........ I thought it was a wishy washy decision by d referee............ From d TV reply over & over again, d Sg players was actually backing into d defender, they so close there's no way d Thai defender can get out of d way, he certainly didn' t pull d striker down................. If diz was an EPL match, a penalty will never b awarded, coz 9 out of 10 times , d benefit of doubt should favour d defenders U can see d referee was so far away from d incident, how can hav possibly seen d incident clearly.......... With such a controversy BOILING over , it certainly won't do Sg any favour going into d return away leg :-[
Chowbotak Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 I have to agree with yellowcardman, sorry, yellowhandman ;D Anyway I don't really care lah ;D
mcmaranello Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 WTF >:( Where did that come from? What a total disgrace to football. Where's the professionalism and sportsmanship? Even if the penalty was dubious, there's no excuse for that kind of behaviour from the whole national team!?
dbchoong Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 If teams behave like this every time they disagree with the referee's decision, there'll be total chaos! Thailand's behavior was not right. The Thai captain should have just talked to the referee. The referee can consult with his assistants before making the final decision. The final decision will have to be accepted by the team - right or wrong - tough luck. They cannot simply leave the field and protest. This is not P.E. football. FIFA must do something to make sure things like this don't happen again.
UpGuy Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 its sad to see that in regional meets like this, they react in such an unprofessional and unsporting way ,although they know that the referees decision is final. Look at the international matches the controversial decisions made by various referees. the games still go on witthout immediate protest. If the thais resort to this unacceptable behaviour time and again, i think they do not deserve to be champions.
rahul Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 Crazy stuff !! Its a poor decision, so what. Such decisions happen all the time, all over the world. If teams start behaving like that if they dont agree with a ref's decision, there will be anarchy. If a team in Premiership did this, they would have been looking at a tough ban/fines and what not. There are millions watching the game, its not some school footy match.. This will get beamed around the world and Im sure FIFA will step in, if local authorities dont take any action. Its very bad for image of football.
dude Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 I thought it was a great tactical move that did not turn out correctly - penalty taker did not lose composure. Guess the headlines in Bangkok will read - Singapore robs Thailand. AGAIN!
yellowhandman Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 looking at today's Straits Times, it looks like my prediction was sadly correct...there's no strong condemnation of the thais' behaviour, and even a ridiculous story about 'Asean unity' triumphing...i guess they don't want to rock the boat further before the 2nd leg. but really...simply shocking behaviour...even the nonsense from a couple of years back with the myanmar players kicking mud at the referee was not as bad, because at least the remaining players carried on playing. and yes, dude, thank goodness mustafic kept his calm and slammed home a world-class penalty...no keeper in the world could have saved that penalty, even after he had been 'iced' for twenty minutes.
cracker Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 The behavior of the Thai players upstaged the fiasco that they were previously involved in a game with Indonesia in the same competition few yrs ago...Both countries wanted to lose the game to avoid another team in the next stage... What happened throughout the 90 min was shocking...with both team trying "create"opportunity for the opposition to score....Cant recall the final outcome.
Spunky Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 so, do u think our player lean too much backward or was he pulled down?? ???
HT102 Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Did you see the incident replay quality? Bl**dly low-res and interlaced.. compare that to EPL/World Cup/Euro Cup slow-motion playback (even in SD)!! It's abt time MediaCorp invest in quality outdoor filming equipment.
kzone Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 The behavior of the Thai players upstaged the fiasco that they were previously involved in a game with Indonesia in the same competition few yrs ago...Both countries wanted to lose the game to avoid another team in the next stage... What happened throughout the 90 min was shocking...with both team trying "create"opportunity for the opposition to score....Cant recall the final outcome. our team also like dat many years ago.. but it was only during the final few minutes after the result of another matched was known... both teams trying to score own goals with the other "defending" the opponent's goal.. very comical & disgraceful...
yellowhandman Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 our team also like dat many years ago.. but it was only during the final few minutes after the result of another matched was known... both teams trying to score own goals with the other "defending" the opponent's goal.. very comical & disgraceful... kzone, it wasn't singapore who did that. it was indonesia and thailand, in the game that cracker was mentioning. it was during the first tiger cup. because of that game, both indonesia and thailand advanced to the semis. the reason they were trying to score own goals is because they wanted to avoid the host nation, vietnam. in their respective semi-finals, knowing that they were facing bans, both thailand and indonesia didn't play properly because they were too pai seh to make it to the final. so singapore ended up meeting vietnam in the final. we won with a goal that came of shasikumar's back, thus winning the inaugural tiger cup.
ministryofMP3 Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 The Thais were so wayang - if they really meant to stop playing, then why didn't they just go straight to the dressing room but instead hung around the touchline. Anyway I think this is a plot by Malaysia to further sour Sg-Thailand ties - it was a Malaysian ref after all ;D ;D ;D
dbchoong Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Poor M'sia ref - give Sg chance also get hit by Sg... ;D Poor ref decisions are part of the game - everyone knows that. And there's nothing anyone can do about it. Imagine Maradonna's "hand of God" was not a referee error - Maradonna would have been sent off for deliberate hand ball - and he wouldn't have gone to score one of the greatest goal in football - Argentina would probably have lost the game and not win the World Cup. Did England protest like what the Thais did last night? They certainly had a more "sure" case to argue.... :)
kzone Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 kzone, it wasn't singapore who did that. Ahh.. thanks for correcting... outstanding memory! :)
ministryofMP3 Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Poor M'sia ref - give Sg chance also get hit by Sg... ;D His PR application will be expedited ;D ;D ;D He'll join the legions of M'sian already here ;D ;D ;D Anyway the Thais team are sore losers. Got 2nd leg to come & still so 'traumatized' by a penalty. Dun tell me they scare of a little red dot.
yellowhandman Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 His PR application will be expedited ;D ;D ;D He'll join the legions of M'sian already here ;D ;D ;D Anyway the Thais team are sore losers. Got 2nd leg to come & still so 'traumatized' by a penalty. Dun tell me they scare of a little red dot. maybe they are worried we will tap their coaches' handphones, and find out their secret plans for the 2nd leg...
cracker Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 The Thais were so wayang - if they really meant to stop playing, then why didn't they just go straight to the dressing room but instead hung around the touchline. Anyway I think this is a plot by Malaysia to further sour Sg-Thailand ties - it was a Malaysian ref after all ;D ;D ;D The referee was "caught in between" just like the 3 countries were, geographically ...
f_spider Posted February 2, 2007 Posted February 2, 2007 If it was a S'porean ( esp .Noh Alam Shah) taking d penalty kick, he'd probably deliberately pass d ball back to d Thai keeper......... Unfortunately d kick was taken by a Foreign Talent ( who is also, probably insensitive to heated relationship between d 2 countries)
yellowhandman Posted February 2, 2007 Author Posted February 2, 2007 If it was a S'porean ( esp .Noh Alam Shah) taking d penalty kick, he'd probably deliberately pass d ball back to d Thai keeper......... Unfortunately d kick was taken by a Foreign Talent ( who is also, probably insensitive to heated relationship between d 2 countries) amazing...damned if you do, damned if you don't... if nor alam had taken the penalty and missed, the whole of singapore would be saying what a cowardly choker he is... mustafic was doing his job, playing football. which thailand certainly WASN'T.
BaseAddict Posted February 2, 2007 Posted February 2, 2007 A questionable win for Singaporean soccer, a definite loss to the already strain bilateral relation between Singapore and Thailand. Some of the interesting comments are: "....Previously, Thai workers in Singapore had staged a protest against ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra when he visited the city-state. Relations between Thailand and Singapore hit their lowest point in years following the visit...." "In Latin America, a football spat between two countries once led to a war," Krirkkiat said. "Singapore's dodgy soccer win fires talk of eavesdropping, use of foreign nominees" "...Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont was curious to know whether Temasek United Football Club had used underhand tactics to win the first leg of the Asean Football Championship...." "...The latest clash between Thailand and Singapore has turned into a political issue. It comes hot on the heels of deteriorating relations..." "...Army chief and coup leader Gen Sonthi Boonyaratglin voiced concern that Thai military information was no longer secure because control of key telecommunications firms had been lost with the controversial Shin deal. "You pick up the phone and it goes to Singapore," he reportedly remarked...." "...joke going around the Thai team is that their game plan might have been "discovered" by their opponents prior to the match...." "...Was the referee, like Dr Mahathir Mohamad, the former Malaysian leader, just trying to drive a wedge further between Thailand and Singapore, knowing the penalty would drive us nuts?..." "...Although the title of the tournament described it as a competition for the Asean region, the appearance of some Singaporean players conjured up an image of nominees - as they seem to come from all over the world...." "...Caucasian-looking guy with the pierced-nose - the tall Mustafic Fahrudin, who scored their winning goal. Fahrudin, formerly Serbian, rewarded his adopted country handsomely with victory from the penalty spot. In fact, Fahrudin is far from the only nationalised player for Singapore...." "...Exceptional skill was not the factor that made Precious Emuejeraye stand out from the crowd. Emuejeraye is black, originally from Nigeria, and towered over everyone on the pitch...." "...Daniel Bennett is not Singapore-born either - but another imported player from the UK wearing Singaporean colours...." "...A fourth - Si Jia Yi - was once Chinese, but is now Singaporean...." Read it for yourselves: :o http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/02/02/politics/politics_30025755.php http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/02/02/regional/regional_30025744.php http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/01/30/headlines/headlines_30025490.php http://www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/topstories.php?id=116488
BaseAddict Posted February 2, 2007 Posted February 2, 2007 If ASEAN Football is to be taken seriously by all the nations participated. I think it is time that ASEAN considered hiring professional referees! The incident of the soccer match in question shown that there are just too much politics involved for the ASEAN soccer to be taken seriously! I don't think it is worth the risk of creating rift in the international bilateral relation of having questionable referee on the field! If the upcoming Sunday match in Bangkok, a referee made a human error and award Thailand a penalty similar to this match then what's next? Common if we can afford to build new multi-million dollars stadium, buy foreign talents, then it is time to get some professional referee!
SiriuslyCold Posted February 3, 2007 Posted February 3, 2007 I pity Thailand, and you should too. This is the first ever case of a bad call by the referee and linesman. And when something has never happened before ever in the world, it's always hard to take things... people especially professional footballers - don't know how to react :-X
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