chiat Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 Hi all, May i know that is it important to have component/ HDMI on receiver??? Thank you.
dbchoong Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 If you have more than 1 video source using component/HDMI, then having a receiver with component/HDMI video switching can be useful. For audio, HDMI was defined to carry 8 channels, of 192kHz, 24-bit uncompressed audio, which exceeds all current consumer media formats. In addition, HDMI can carry any flavor of compressed audio format such as Dolby or DTS. HDMI will be useful in the future when (if) BluRay's and HD-DVD's high definition audio (DTS-HD and DolbyDigital-TrueHD) becomes the "standard". :)
chiat Posted October 27, 2006 Author Posted October 27, 2006 Bro, i dun understand what is "Switching" means. Can we just buy a switching box instead? Btw can we just have the DVD with component direct to display console then coaxial cable to receiver? Is there any different using HDMI --> receiver -->display??? Thanks
SiriuslyCold Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 if you have just one source then that is probably the best connection. (video -> display, audio -> receiver) as you acquire more sources (Xbox, DVD recorder) you may run out of inputs on the display- thats when the receiver can switch between these sources. its also very convenient - set the display to a single input, when you select a source on the receiver, you get the audio to the receiver and also video output to the display automatically. this is called switching. if you are contemplating a high definition player (HD-DVD or Blu-Ray) let us know then HDMI becomes a more important discussion; you will not hear the best audio from these players just using the coax connection, and you'd need a HDMI or the 5.1/7.1 multichannel analog connections
synthesis1624705793 Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 ........ if you are contemplating a high definition player (HD-DVD or Blu-Ray) let us know then HDMI becomes a more important discussion; you will not hear the best audio from these players just using the coax connection, and you'd need a HDMI or the 5.1/7.1 multichannel analog connections However.... even if you have this hi def player, you will not get the best audio if your speaker or amp or your room cannot make it, or if the recording enginer screw up the recording. Sorry I'm quite skeptical about this hi def thing. Look at SACD and DVDA. :P But companies need to create something new and hype to stay in business. ;) I guess SC already mentioned, it's quite useful if you have more equipment to connect. It depends on your requirement.
rage1624705821 Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 if you have just one source then that is probably the best connection. (video -> display, audio -> receiver) as you acquire more sources (Xbox, DVD recorder) you may run out of inputs on the display- thats when the receiver can switch between these sources. its also very convenient - set the display to a single input, when you select a source on the receiver, you get the audio to the receiver and also video output to the display automatically. this is called switching. if you are contemplating a high definition player (HD-DVD or Blu-Ray) let us know then HDMI becomes a more important discussion; you will not hear the best audio from these players just using the coax connection, and you'd need a HDMI or the 5.1/7.1 multichannel analog connections Can the current generation of optical/coaxial inputs handle 7.1 channel audio? i.e. Optical out from HD-DVD/BluRay to Optical input of a 7.1channel capable receiver
SiriuslyCold Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Is there any 7.1 audio at all? I think there's enough bandwidth for compressed encoded audio (DD/DTS if they ever went 7.1) however the newer formats are using lossless compression which may push the stream beyond the bandwidth of the optical/coax connection. So a HDMI connection is required. Additionally, the current crop of receivers do not have decoders for the new HD formats, so the decoding is done inside the player to a 7.1 PCM stream, and that definitely requires a HDMI 1.0 at least (if you don't want to /cannot use the multi channel analog connections) Dolby True-HD and DTS-Master will require HDMI1.3 to pass
Darthfunk Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 I doubt there will be alot of media out there with 7.1. Even with HD/BP DVD out now you can hardly find it with 7.1
rage1624705821 Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 I doubt there will be alot of media out there with 7.1. Even with HD/BP DVD out now you can hardly find it with 7.1 There are quite a few DVDs with DTS-ES audio (6.1). Its just a matter of time. With the BluRay and HD-DVD launch, I am sure more and more titles will be released in the 7.1 audio format. But I guess we have to wait at least a year before we see a substantial amount of titles in the market.
chiat Posted October 28, 2006 Author Posted October 28, 2006 Hi all, 1st of all, thanks for the advises. btw can we buy a external switching for additional source? Any quality issues(video and audio)? Coz currently bought the pioneer VSX-515-S which is the old model that do not have component/ HDMI input. Just wondering whether will have to change the model in a yr time? Actually i'm not the hardcore, just wanted to use it for movie only. Thanks
petetherock Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Hi HDMI is a good cabling solution. IF you are in the budget of the pioneer 515, it will cost you about the price of your amp to get HDMI switching eg 2X1 Monoprice Switch Google it for more info, or AVS has some info: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8704671&highlight=HDMI+switch#post8704671 If movies is what you are and it is nice that you can wait a year then do so. HDMI is still in its infancy and the format is evolving very swiftly. There are many threads on incompatability and jitter issues right now. An AV AMP with HDMI switching will be much more affordable by then and these budget amps will be fine for movies (especially if the music aspect is not so vital) Right now a Yam 2XXX or Denon 2xxx or Marantz 7xxxx maybe your best bet (but I guess you are just asking since you mentioned switching amps in a year. Every technology will have filtered down by then and an amp with the price range of your Pioneer 515 will probably have it.
Relax Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Hi, trying to readup on this HDMI stuff...any of u superguys has some link to that... thanks in advance
petetherock Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Bro: If you google it you get so much it will take ten days to finish Here is the front page and some links: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=HDMI&meta= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI Enjoy PS: currently evolving from 1.2a to 1.3
SiriuslyCold Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 theres this useful thread at AVS summarizing the available receivers in relation to HDMI (audio) capabilities http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=738511 and a 10-part dissertation on HDMI at the HDTV magazine website (Part 1 here) http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/2006/07/hdmi_part_1_-_a.php
Darthfunk Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 theres this useful thread at AVS summarizing the available receivers in relation to HDMI (audio) capabilities http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=738511 and a 10-part dissertation on HDMI at the HDTV magazine website (Part 1 here) http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/2006/07/hdmi_part_1_-_a.php Yup thats a recent topic written by Lindahl (avs forum) for everyone to understand.
Relax Posted October 29, 2006 Posted October 29, 2006 One more question on HDMI How do one know what kind of version of HDMI is used the Display(plasma or LCD) and receiver, processor & AV receiver. So what happen there is a mismatched of version??? Or am I really confused ?????
SiriuslyCold Posted October 29, 2006 Posted October 29, 2006 they are all backwards compatible... if there is a mismatched version, your system will support the lowest version in the chain; for example if your player and receivers are both 1.2, and display is 1.1 then from receiver to display it will use 1.1 (obviously) - I guess what you are afraid of is that it wont pass the video at all - but it (theoretically) will. should. ;)
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