kzone Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 1000 Apologies if this has already been discussed. but not able to search it here... Need to get a 2.5m FM reception cable (fm tuner to scv wall pt), should I use Belden -T 1530A which is the same as those used for TV reception? Also getting the following : 1m Analog RCA (fm tuner to stereo amp) - Klotz GY107 with canare plug 4m Analog RCA (fm SH set top box to stereo amp) - Klotz GY107 with canare plug Can the GY107 perform at 4m length?
benzx Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 I have no experience with klotz but heard from forumers/friends that the GY107 sound better with Neutrik profi plugs.
2100 Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 Also getting the following : 1m Analog RCA (fm tuner to stereo amp) - Klotz GY107 with canare plug 4m Analog RCA (fm SH set top box to stereo amp) - Klotz GY107 with canare plug Can the GY107 perform at 4m length? If you ask me, cannot perform for hifi-usage, no RCA can. Better to avoid anything more than 2m for RCA low-level (even TS Lim is 1.8m). If its for home theatre, then i suppose mian qiang can lar.
synthesis1624705793 Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 If you ask me, cannot perform for hifi-usage, no RCA can. Better to avoid anything more than 2m for RCA low-level (even TS Lim is 1.8m). If its for home theatre, then i suppose mian qiang can lar. Why cannot? Industry can use the same cable for long mic cable. If the problem is the RCA plug, then 0.5m and 5m make no difference, no? Kzone, I guess you can use whatever you listed above. The source is not of a high quality anyway. ;)
2100 Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 Why cannot? Industry can use the same cable for long mic cable. If the problem is the RCA plug, then 0.5m and 5m make no difference, no? Oh...now then i see that its for set top box to amp. I suppose that is ok. But never try for hifi. Try getting those Daiyo 5m RCA plugs and see, hifi becomes midfi. :)
hifi_enthusiast Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 If you ask me, cannot perform for hifi-usage, no RCA can. Better to avoid anything more than 2m for RCA low-level (even TS Lim is 1.8m). If its for home theatre, then i suppose mian qiang can lar. many high end systems do not put the Source and pre-amp in between the speakers. The source/preamp are at the side of the room with only the massive poweramp in between the speakers. In such systems, i assure you that the RCA length is more than 2m ;)
synthesis1624705793 Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 Oh...now then i see that its for set top box to amp. I suppose that is ok. But never try for hifi. Try getting those Daiyo 5m RCA plugs and see, hifi becomes midfi. :) Haha.. in fact I use that exact interconnect for my subwoofer.. no complaint. ;)
2100 Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 In such systems, i assure you that the RCA length is more than 2m ;) Yup, it is more than 2m alright, i can be assured of that. But there is a thing called XLR. Lots of high-end stuff with XLR in and outs, check out buy and sell in the loft. ;) In other countries, the rooms are bigger, 10m is not uncommon. I mean, if one is prepared to spend 6 digits on his system and decides to do up a custom 10m RCA instead of 10m XLR, nobody is stopping him. Sometimes the radio hams there run HF/low VHF and you can hear them through the stereo/TV because of the exact quarter wavelength! Shielding is no use.
2100 Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 Haha.. in fact I use that exact interconnect for my subwoofer.. no complaint. ;) I am using that for my ASW-210 too, that's why i brought that up. ;D Try A/Bing. Anyway how to measure capacitance on a DMM?
benzx Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 I am using that for my ASW-210 too, that's why i brought that up. ;D Try A/Bing. But for this case, hifi become mid fi is because the quality of the Daiyo cable and RCA plugs? or purely the length of the cables? Unless your A/B test is done with 5m Daiyo, vs a 1.5m Daiyo ;D
kzone Posted September 21, 2006 Author Posted September 21, 2006 Got the 4m GY107 with Canare plugs yesterday evening... hooked it up & it sucks... sound a little bloated, maybe too used to tv speaker sound which definitely sound thin. Didnt manage to do an A/B vs 1m RCA cos the set top box is too far away fm the amp & too many connections to unplug... hopefully will have the time this weekend to test.. Any SH channel has good SQ for me to test? Btw, on casual listening, my fm tuner (92.4FM) connected to the same amp via the free thin black RCA cable (1m) sounds better...
ongus Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Do you expect a new car to be able to perform just well as another that is several months old? Of course the GY107 will sound bad one the first day. Give them 200 hours and report again bro.
ongus Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 1000 Apologies if this has already been discussed. but not able to search it here... Need to get a 2.5m FM reception cable (fm tuner to scv wall pt), should I use Belden -T 1530A which is the same as those used for TV reception? Also getting the following : 1m Analog RCA (fm tuner to stereo amp) - Klotz GY107 with canare plug 4m Analog RCA (fm SH set top box to stereo amp) - Klotz GY107 with canare plug Can the GY107 perform at 4m length? There are many 75 ohm cables. 1530A is cheap and good so there is no reason why you cant use it. If you are talking about Carare crimp plugs, they are not suitable for stranded cables for they are designed for solid core. Are 4m runs of GY107 still capable of performing well? IMHO yes.
kzone Posted September 21, 2006 Author Posted September 21, 2006 Ah ok, will do... but 200 hrs quite tough if I leave it plugged to the set top box since I'll be using this connection only when i'm watching cable on the projector screen... I guess I'll plug it to the fm tuner tonight... Already gotten the GY107 with the crimp plugs.. I guess neutrik profik wud be a better choice but that would double the cost of the cable... Btw, how good is the SQ of SH channels under optimal condition? Like FM reception?
2100 Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 But for this case, hifi become mid fi is because the quality of the Daiyo cable and RCA plugs? or purely the length of the cables? Unless your A/B test is done with 5m Daiyo, vs a 1.5m Daiyo ;D Brudder, don't torture me to go and buy a 1m no-brand RCA lar, a few dollars you know. Now already eating Indonesian instant noodles due to my spk purchase. ;D I'll see if my mum's place has some of those 1.5m I/Cs, my place doesn't have. Then i'll report back. Setup will be through a RCA splitter through the 2 cables and into 2 inputs, inputs will be switched to give instantaneous comparisons. Even then it doesn't prove that for higher end cables, the effect would be the same magnitide, due to better materials used (ie metal purity, dielectric), tio boh? For kzone's case, it really is ok coz it is the set top box. Did not read that initially.
synthesis1624705793 Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Brudder, don't torture me to go and buy a 1m no-brand RCA lar, a few dollars you know. Now already eating Indonesian instant noodles due to my spk purchase. ;D ........ Indomie? Mie Sedap?
2100 Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Indomie? Mie Sedap? Indomie, like mi goreng Sate, the new Kruuik ones also. I like rendang best, but now cannot find in Batam, other places in Riau, and Jakarta too. I think they ceased it, too expensive and nobody is buying. I used to eat quite a lot, like 1 whole box of 40 packages i will just tompang on top of the wheel luggage...buy from Hypermart. Now i switch more to Koka (no MSG) and also cut back quite a lot, put only like 1/3 packet of seasoning and no more than 3 times per week. Sorry OT. :-X
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