W Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Hi Current already having a projector in living room. Considering to also install a plasma in living room for normal tv viewing. As I want to also hang the plasma on the wall, any best way to have best of both worlds of having both plasma and projector in my living room ?
koma Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 if u hav a false ceiling or intendin to build one u can hide it inside the flase ceiling n pull dwn when u need it Hi Current already having a projector in living room. Considering to also install a plasma in living room for normal tv viewing. As I want to also hang the plasma on the wall, any best way to have best of both worlds of having both plasma and projector in my living room ?
kzone Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Just make sure there's enough allowance between the screen & the wall for ur future plasma... Wanted to do it this way till I fell in luv wif fixed screens... Btw, sorry to hijack but can I integrate a fix screen & a plasma in my living room Without having the screen too high up & the plasma too low?
koma Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 kzone i got an idea but its goin to cost u, if the wall is connected to a rm. u can knock a hole on the wall then put up a feature wall tat is able to swivel meanin fixed screen on 1 side then u juz turn the whole wall n u get the plasma on the other side. tis is the onli solution i can tink of right now if u wan fixed screen n plasma on same wall cause if install 2gether will either be too high or too low. for me i goin for the pull down screen in false ceiling infront of my samsug lcd ;) if got budget then get a motorised screen which u can do if u dun mind a good motorised screen infront of ur plasma. nowadays good electric screens also seldom hav waves liao if im not wrong maybe any old birds can come in n comment on tis?? Just make sure there's enough allowance between the screen & the wall for ur future plasma... Wanted to do it this way till I fell in luv wif fixed screens... Btw, sorry to hijack but can I integrate a fix screen & a plasma in my living room Without having the screen too high up & the plasma too low?
kzone Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Great idea! It makes me think of those India Jones movies... Ok seriously, the turning wall might create problem with the cables connected to the plasma.. Anyway, wife wants the screen to be on the wall shared with neighbour so the turning wall is out... I considered the motorised screen as well, but wud rather spend the same amount on a "better" screen than a motor. Was looking around for those long arm wall bracket that can be swivelled here & there but have not seen a suitable one yet... so will settle for CRT on a roller console till the solution comes up
koma Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 oic, actually the wire part can be solved cause i saw tis design bfore on a variety show on channel U.yah using the arm of roller would be the best solution now but gotta choose the correct arm to support the weight else if not.... u knoe the results ;) Great idea! It makes me think of those India Jones movies... Ok seriously, the turning wall might create problem with the cables connected to the plasma.. Anyway, wife wants the screen to be on the wall shared with neighbour so the turning wall is out... I considered the motorised screen as well, but wud rather spend the same amount on a "better" screen than a motor. Was looking around for those long arm wall bracket that can be swivelled here & there but have not seen a suitable one yet... so will settle for CRT on a roller console till the solution comes up
c7221624705751 Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 Considering to also install a plasma in living room for normal tv viewing. As I want to also hang the plasma on the wall, any best way to have best of both worlds of having both plasma and projector in my living room ? simplest and most cost effective is to mount the plasma on wall, and a motorised screen drop down from false ceiling. screen itself, when not used, is concealed within the false ceiling. I'm doing that now. I do not favor those fixed panel/swing type to mount the plasma. Never underestimate your urge to upgrade in the future. Plasma size can go up ( e.g. a 65" can be <10k this year), weigh can go up. Even the same size panel can have diff physical dimension. If u do all those "swing" panels as shown in channel U program, u r fixed permanently. And dun forget your will also change screen. For fixed screen and a plasma, the best setup I've seen so far is in my boss's house. The plasma is on a motorised "platform" that goes up. When not in use it drops down to the floor level and hidden inside the bench. The fixed screen is just above the bench. You will need a gd grade motor to raise 50kg up.
Corona11 Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 If you do not want the screen to high, incorporate the screen into the top of the feature wall, I am doing that.
kzone Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 C722's boss setup sounds really cool... Corona, if the fixed screen is at the top of the feature wall, wont it be too high? I'll be mounting my screen 2'7" fm the floor.
Corona11 Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 C722's boss setup sounds really cool... Corona, if the fixed screen is at the top of the feature wall, wont it be too high? I'll be mounting my screen 2'7" fm the floor. 2'7" from the top, or bottom of the screen?
W Posted May 9, 2006 Author Posted May 9, 2006 if u hav a false ceiling or intendin to build one u can hide it inside the flase ceiling n pull dwn when u need it problem is i already using a pull down screen and there is little or no allowance between screen and wall ... so if hang plasma on wall ...there will be 'bulge' in the screen . someone suggested doing a sliding door kind of screen. ie plasma hang on wall ...incorporate a sliding door that when closed, will cover plasma and also act as screen. When wan to watch plasma, slide the screen to the side. Will this work ?
kzone Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 Rather than creating that sliding wall, might as well readjust ur pull down screen bracket to cater for e plasma
oliverlim Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 So far how is everyones experience with motorised screen with regards to waves? There are not many tensioned motorised models available and heard horror stories of "moving" motorised screen with waves after a while. It seems quite expensive to replace screen every 1-2 years to get rid of the waves. I have been looking at the pulley or motorise platform for the plasma but they are too expensive. The cheaper would still be to mount it on the back wall if you have one and use a motorised projector screen. Unless someone knows of a good cheap contractor who can build a motorise platform for a plasma :p Oliver
oliverlim Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 simplest and most cost effective is to mount the plasma on wall, and a motorised screen drop down from false ceiling. screen itself, when not used, is concealed within the false ceiling. I'm doing that now. I do not favor those fixed panel/swing type to mount the plasma. Never underestimate your urge to upgrade in the future. Plasma size can go up ( e.g. a 65" can be <10k this year), weigh can go up. Even the same size panel can have diff physical dimension. If u do all those "swing" panels as shown in channel U program, u r fixed permanently. And dun forget your will also change screen. For fixed screen and a plasma, the best setup I've seen so far is in my boss's house. The plasma is on a motorised "platform" that goes up. When not in use it drops down to the floor level and hidden inside the bench. The fixed screen is just above the bench. You will need a gd grade motor to raise 50kg up. I done a check on plasma arms and most "good" models are for the 40-50". So they fit all models. But if you can see yourself upgrading to a bigger then 50" model, then you got a problem. None of the bigger then 50" arms can fit a 50" and smaller plasma/lcd it seems. I have seen a site in the US where they are selling a pulley system which use a winder like in a car door. Problem is that you need to build up the cabinet yourself or get the cabinet from them. After adding everything in (shipping etc) , it would still probably cost over $1.5k. Oliver
kzone Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 I done a check on plasma arms and most "good" models are for the 40-50". Hi Oliver, where can I find those arms?
htfreak Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 1 place which you probably can take a look at the motorized system is the Fujitsu showroom at Plaza Singapura. I remember asking about this previously when I visited their showroom when it was launched. They had a 50" panel mounted onto the system. However, I felt that with the relatively high height of the cabinet, the fixed screen will need to be mounted slightly higher up than norm.
wind30 Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 actually why do you want to have projector and plasma in the same location. What plasma size are you considering and what projector screen size then? Assuming that your seating position is not changed, one of them will be too small or too big. I think if I put a 42" plasma at my fixed screen position, it will look very small, or if I put my 92" screen on my plasma location, it will look too big... unless your plasma screen is similar in size as your projector screen :)
kzone Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 Wah Wind... so used to big screen dat u find 42" plasma too small huh? Dont think ur viewing dist is more than 15 feet rite? I think most of us want to watch movies & soccer on the big screen and change to a smaller plasma/lcd when watching normal TV programmes... my viewing dist is 11 feet, will be satisfied with a 26" lcd to watch Sheryl Fox & Lisa Ng...
oliverlim Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 actually why do you want to have projector and plasma in the same location. What plasma size are you considering and what projector screen size then? Assuming that your seating position is not changed, one of them will be too small or too big. I think if I put a 42" plasma at my fixed screen position, it will look very small, or if I put my 92" screen on my plasma location, it will look too big... unless your plasma screen is similar in size as your projector screen :) I agree with kzone on the size! If both are the same size I might as well use the plasma! :p 42" plasma at about 3.5-4 meters is good enough for tv serials, news etc etc. Again, I did think of putting the plasma at the side, but if you do not want to move your sofa, watching TV programs sideways is not that comfortable :p I do not think I can also take "in your face" actor and actress every single day. So 42-50" would be good and big enough for everyday TV programs for me. Actually is there a way to project a smaller size easily for projectors? Lets say you are using a 92" for Movies, when you watch a TV program, can you reduce the size to lets say 60" with a touch of remote? Oliver
W Posted May 10, 2006 Author Posted May 10, 2006 actually why do you want to have projector and plasma in the same location. What plasma size are you considering and what projector screen size then? Assuming that your seating position is not changed, one of them will be too small or too big. I think if I put a 42" plasma at my fixed screen position, it will look very small, or if I put my 92" screen on my plasma location, it will look too big... unless your plasma screen is similar in size as your projector screen :) Considering LCD 40" / PLasma 42" and projector screen is 100 inch diagonal. Projector mostly used for movies at night. Plasma for normal TV viewing or playing console games or watch movies when there are ambient light (in the day).
c7221624705751 Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 Actually is there a way to project a smaller size easily for projectors? Lets say you are using a 92" for Movies, when you watch a TV program, can you reduce the size to lets say 60" with a touch of remote? that's why u need a IScan ;D it has very flexible aspect controls. You setup ur 92" as a permanent 2.35 screen so for wide screen movies u had the max size u can get (80 by 34). With 4:3 material it will auto crop the screen and fit the 4:3 within that 2.35 screen. So it will be 34" high, only 56" diagonal 4:3, just nice for TV viewing. And u can setup the IScan to do it automatically without even touching the remote. This is basically a poor man's constant height setup. sorry for the OT .. :)
oliverlim Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 Hi Oliver, where can I find those arms? Here is one of them. there is another mechinical on which I found when I did some research but cant find it now. http://www.the-office.com/summerlift/CLmarineplasma.htm Oliver
oliverlim Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 that's why u need a IScan ;D it has very flexible aspect controls. You setup ur 92" as a permanent 2.35 screen so for wide screen movies u had the max size u can get (80 by 34). With 4:3 material it will auto crop the screen and fit the 4:3 within that 2.35 screen. So it will be 34" high, only 56" diagonal 4:3, just nice for TV viewing. And u can setup the IScan to do it automatically without even touching the remote. This is basically a poor man's constant height setup. sorry for the OT .. :) Yupe thats one way. Using the sizing options in your scaler. But the way it does it does result in lesser resolution of your projector being used. I know most projector has a zoom option. Are they auto or you have to adjust it mechanically? Oliver
sonofdbn Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 I have a motorised screen (yes, it has a wave) - the idea was to put a plasma behind it, but it didn't seem worth it. Kids were happy with the old 29" CRT in the corner next to the screen. (Of course, if Man U had been doing better.... :'() If you have the space, you can put the plasma on a different wall: going around the room walls you have Couch A, Couch B, Plasma, Screen. Sit on Couch A to watch plasma, and on Couch B to watch the PJ screen.
c7221624705751 Posted May 12, 2006 Posted May 12, 2006 Yupe thats one way. Using the sizing options in your scaler. But the way it does it does result in lesser resolution of your projector being used. For a 720p panel doing this way for 4:3 material u get abt 544 lines vertical, more than enough for NTSC and almost just nice for PAL. It's perfectly okay. I know most projector has a zoom option. Are they auto or you have to adjust it mechanically? sorry I dun get u. With this setup I dun adjust anything in the PJ. For 4:3 The scaler sends out a complete 720p pic in total but with only the 544 lines having picture, the rest is blank. As far as the PJ is concerned it's a 720p signal.
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