kzone Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 Guys, what cable shud I use to connect the 5 ch out fm e processor to the power amp ah? Analog RCA or coaxial 75ohm RCA?
Hitokiri_Battousai Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 Copper coaxial or twisted design analog rca is fine either way. With coaxial, you should be getting more bass, but less details as compared to twisted design ones.
benzx Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 How come leh? I asked because my understanding is that the signal out from processor to poweramp should be analog signal already right? Of cos, not wrong to use coaxial la (coaxial and analog RCA are not mutually exclusive anyway), but dont really need coaxial 75ohms cables liow right? Or maybe I got it wrong all the while.
Guest jonlee Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 Ananalog RCA. Normal interconnect like what u use between cdp and int amp.
kzone Posted April 9, 2006 Author Posted April 9, 2006 Thanks! I'd like to try pure silver I/Cs. What's e cheapest in the market now? Need 5 of them...
benzx Posted April 9, 2006 Posted April 9, 2006 Try RS cables?. Carried by Audiotrio at Katong. I find the prices quite affordable, for solid silver ICs. Cheapest I know of. Performance wise, no comments. Cos I havent had the luxury of owning any pure silver ICs. ;D http://www.odysseyaudiosg.com/rscables.htm
kzone Posted April 9, 2006 Author Posted April 9, 2006 Try RS cables?. Carried by Audiotrio at Katong. I find the prices quite affordable, for solid silver ICs. Cheapest I know of. Performance wise, no comments. Cos I havent had the luxury of owning any pure silver ICs. ;D http://www.odysseyaudiosg.com/rscables.htm Can cite an example on the pricing? Either I/Cs or S/Cs. U know their number? Can only find the address & email here i n XP... AUDIO TRIO #03-25 Katong Mall 112 East Coast Road info@odysseyaudiosg.com Wkends: 1-6pm Wkdays: by appt
Hitokiri_Battousai Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Think the silver basic i/c from RS Cables is $180+? I'd suggest that not unless your system is fully tubed, or you love really extreme details, should you go for silver from pre to pro. It will push the system into brightness for sure if all is wired with silver. Harshness and sibilance will prevail if the silver is plated, not pure or crystal silver. Van den huls are an exception, because somehow the carbon layer in the cables neutralises the problems of silver plating. Usually for solid state, the preferred and recommended way is silver for source to pre, and copper from pre to pro onwards. The characteristics of pure or crystal silver is good fine details, air and bass control, but somehow too much use of it in solid state systems make them bright. As usual, ymmv. :)
kzone Posted April 10, 2006 Author Posted April 10, 2006 Thanks Hitokiri, Thanks for your advise.... I've not used any silver cables before so the only info I know about them is from what I read & hear on other people's system. The most unforgettable memory was that of Siltech silver cables I heard few years back.. the speed was unbelievable! I'm using the old B&W803 matrix for my front 2 & I find it a little slow.. so tot that silver might help. Considering using the QED Genesis Spiral or any affordable siltech as S/C for the front 3 & am looking around for matching I/Cs... using the Sony 9000ES AV pre power. Any recommendation on the I/C from pre to power to complement the setup?
X-Men Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Thanks Hitokiri, Thanks for your advise.... I've not used any silver cables before so the only info I know about them is from what I read & hear on other people's system. The most unforgettable memory was that of Siltech silver cables I heard few years back.. the speed was unbelievable! I'm using the old B&W803 matrix for my front 2 & I find it a little slow.. so tot that silver might help. Considering using the QED Genesis Spiral or any affordable siltech as S/C for the front 3 & am looking around for matching I/Cs... using the Sony 9000ES AV pre power. Any recommendation on the I/C from pre to power to complement the setup? But of course ! I remembered listening to my friend's dad McIntosh set-up with SIltech cables everywhere, the whole bloody system cost around 100K, and only audio! But gotta admit the sound reproduction was outta this world.. :o Who's carrying Siltech now? If i recall correctly, they cost an arm and a leg.. even the cheapest runs into the thousands, right? :P
benzx Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Its not uncommon to see used siltech cables selling in echoloft buy/sell section. If you don't mind used, that'll save abit of cost :)
kzone Posted April 10, 2006 Author Posted April 10, 2006 Norman Audio carries Siltech.. but dont think they are the only one selling it... Yea, siltech appears in the resale market quite a lot... but so far, the pure silver ones, even used are still out of my budget... :( :(
hotbird Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Lot of imitation from China/HK, heed the warnings's here http://www.siltechcables.com/wawcs0115618/fake.html http://www.siltechcables.com/wawcs0115609/tn-news.html "Second hand Siltech is a great way to save money without loosing quality. But take care. Because of the high demand and very high prices for second hand Siltech some unreliable factorties started producing lookalikes with full printing of our name and type. This is totally illegal. In general do not buy from non-dealers unless it is a sincere customer upgrading or changing his or her system. . In 2004 70-90% of second hand Siltech products offered through Ebay and Audiogon were fake imitation made in China, fully stamped with Siltech name logo and type. Compared to the original Siltech, the differences are big. For a unexperienced buyer however it is not so obvious. Every seller will normally have a real name, address, telephone number, original box or receipt or other means to demonstrate the origin of the product. So do not buy without a box or receipt. (one of these at least) When in doubt, ask a retailer, distributor or email us direct with photo's. We will answer soon." Norman Audio carries Siltech.. but dont think they are the only one selling it... Yea, siltech appears in the resale market quite a lot... but so far, the pure silver ones, even used are still out of my budget... :( :(
Hitokiri_Battousai Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Other brands like Cardas and Purist Audio Design also have fakes. If you have to buy 2nd hand, do make sure the seller is trustworthy and reliable.
zepp3lin Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Another cheaper option I may suggest is to get Belden 50ohm coaxial instead of 75ohm. Normally for 75ohm it works great for video and for audio it is normally rate at 50ohm. Another suggestion is get a cheaper option for centre, surround right and left(50ohm) and for your Left and Right channel get a bit more better option like the silvers.
benzx Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Sorry, OT abit here. Will using different cables and amp to power the centre and fronts spoil the matching timbre? (assuming centre is at first matching model with the fronts). Since amp and cables used affect the type of sound produced too. Opinions anyone? I'm not against it as my requirement not so high hehe. Actually I'm doing that right now. Centre powered by Marantz AVR, Fronts powered by Adcom thru VDH / DHLabs ICs.
Hitokiri_Battousai Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Marantz and Adcom are voiced differently, so technically you can hear timbre difference, but I'd say it depends on the individual, some can hear the diff, others can't. Same goes for cables used.
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