djcoolmax Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 http://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/03/what_about_bose.html
varun1624705824 Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 Well written article. What're your thoughts about their floor-standing 701 speakers? Also, here's another reason people buy Bose: it's easy. Most "regular" folks have a life (unlike us... <grin>... kidding...) - they can't be bothered to spend hours / days / weeks... even MONTHS... researching and auditioning. You walk into a Bose shop, decide what is the max you can spend (after all, almost everyone is there for a surround package with "those cute cubes", so it's not like hmmm... this model or that model? it's pure budget), pay, and walk out with one box. Really simple. And, for most people, the 30 - 80 Hz gap you talk about? They don't realize there's anything missing at all. For many, it's their first real "high end" system - they're immensely satisfied. And many will buy another Bose. That's just life. For what it's worth, the first "real" speakers I bought were Bose 701 floor-standers. 6 years on, I still have 'em. Do I realize their sound is probably coloured? Yes. Do I realize the soundstage is deeply affected by the "direct / reflecting" nature? Yes. Am I happy nevertheless? Well... since I understood the shortcomings (not too many years ago...), I've been less satisfied. But MAN, do I LOVE the coloured sound... :-) Cheers, - V.
dbchoong Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 Not everyone buys hifi/HT based purely on sound quality. Bose has some features that many (especially those with $$) love.. 1. Very high WAF - due to the cute small speakers 2. Brand recognition - when friends visit your home and they see a Bose is not the same when they see a Panasonic. 3. Radio frequency remote 4. All-In-One equipment - despite its shortcomings, many think this is actually better 5. Colored sound which many non-audiophile people (which is actually the majority) like Not everyone cares about the gaps in the frequency response or a subwoofer that can't go low and plays frequencies up to mid-range. Bose is not all bad lah... although there are many things that it don't do well - what it does well, it does it very well. And these things that it does very well make them the most famous hifi company around. ;D
ckng Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 FWIW, Bose isn't too bad sounding. At least for the lay people. The trouble is, at like $3000+ for the stereo model (LifeStyle 20?) you can get a really good separates setup. Of coz, like varun say, most people out there will not go and research, etc and this makes a good "all in one" for them. Add the strong brand equity of Bose (hey, many lay people think it's the best hifi) and there you go. Regards CK
f_spider Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 To me BOSE sucks big time :P Unless of coz............. U r rich & dumb ;D To a certain extend, anyone of my bros out there Agree wif me ???
varun1624705824 Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 U r rich & dumb ;D "Dumb" is a strong term, mate. Uninformed is perhaps more appropriate. dbchoong and ckng's comments also make a lot of sense. For many, Bose is not just "good enough", it's actually the cat's whiskers. Cheers, - V.
SiriuslyCold Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 well, dumb people don't usually make enough $ to afford Bose it may come as a severe shock to us on this (and other audio-oriented) board that sound quality is not the be-all and end-all as far as purchasing decisions go. Some people who are informed as to the quality still decide to purchase the brand name, and who are we to argue... or call them dumb?
raysusan Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Colored sound which many non-audiophile people (which is actually the majority) like what do we mean by Colored sound?
etnt Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Bose's subwoofer endeavor http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/pro/products/panaray/panaraycannon.jsp
louco73 Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 what do we mean by Colored sound? I'm sure there will be a better definition than what I can provide, but I'll take a stab at this. To goal of most audiophiles is to create a system that is as true to live music as possible. However, what sounds good to one person may not necessarily sound good to another. Hence why some people like the "warm" sound of a tube setup. Some may say that CDs are harsh and clinical and prefer LPs, while others swear by CDs. Essentially each component in the hi-fi chain can influence or "colour" the sound to a certain degree. Components that influence the sound of the music in a large way can therefore be considered "coloured". For many people this initial coloured sound can be quite appealing. Think about the first time you heard some "cool" bass in a car stereo system for example. Now if you understood what the difference between clean bass and loud booming is you would know that it sounded like complete sh%^. ;) However, if you have a system with minimal bass in your current car it probably sounds great! If you happened to purchase a coloured system you would tend to tire of it after a while as you realise it does not sound as true to the real music as you would like. This then leads to upgraditis and why we are all here ;). Of course many people are just completely oblivious to how "coloured" their systems are and enjoy the sound. These people keep buying Bose systems, got married, or possibly both ;D. Isn't it great that everyone is different, otherwise we would live in a boring world!
dbchoong Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 what do we mean by Colored sound? Audiophiles prefer it in monochrome? ;D I guess it would mean sound that is altered and is not as "natural" as it was intended to be. But really, most of us (including me) won't know what "natural" sound should really be unless I brought Charlize Theron to my bedroom and sing for me (who cares about her singing?). That's why my hifi setup is also coloured (I have a graphics equalizer to alter the sound to suit me).
dbchoong Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Bose's subwoofer endeavor http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/pro/products/panaray/panaraycannon.jsp Hmm, I wonder how much they are selling this PVC pipe for? ;D
Spunky Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 end of the day, it really depends on what u r listening to. will u ever find out how madonna or britney sound in real person? Will their voice move from left speaker to right spkr as they sing, as if they were dancing on the stage? Or r they dead centred while performing some dance songs? Or how should those synthesizers sound in those 'mood' music?
DIRTRUN Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Let them have their Bose with their cubes and acoustimass modules, if they so do think it is the best then so be it. We will find solace in knowing our sets are far superior sonically even though ours might lose out aesthetically. Your Manna My Heaven is what I say... Hehehe SVS reigns. Dirtrun
dethangel Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 Hmm, I wonder how much they are selling this PVC pipe for? ;D Erh .. hey ... saw these "cannons" mounted in Taka's Stadium outlet. Look carefully @ their ceiling. Not sure its still there now. Sounds good ok? .. anyway their pro audio is not bad - seriously
Transworld Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 Let them have their Bose with their cubes and acoustimass modules, if they so do think it is the best then so be it. We will find solace in knowing our sets are far superior sonically even though ours might lose out aesthetically. Your Manna My Heaven is what I say... Hehehe SVS reigns. Dirtrun But seriously, now the various satelites cube speakers designs from home pc to av probably inspire by bose from start.
SiriuslyCold Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 I htink you'll find that it was Henry Kloss, not Bose
hifiluv Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 "Dumb" is a strong term, mate. Uninformed is perhaps more appropriate. dbchoong and ckng's comments also make a lot of sense. For many, Bose is not just "good enough", it's actually the cat's whiskers. Cheers, - V. tis brings back memories, got a friend who built a $2M house, got a dedicated HT room, easily $25K HT equipment, then saw he used cheap cheap (buy downstair HDB shop) speaker wires and Red/Black wire RCA (those u get free when u buy an equipment) to connect his subwoofer. when i sheepishly tried to tell him... he gave me the "dont waste my time n i aint going to make anymore changes" look, so i back off one.... to him speaker wire is speaker wire, Red/Black IC is an IC. i am not so close to him to tell him point blank.... so let it be lor :'(, but so sad, so wasteful of the equipment.. :'(
DIRTRUN Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 Yaloh, if Beldens at least you know he surfs Xp and has learnt something, huh. Hehehe Dirtrun
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