Power Cord Cable For Digital Set Up Box

[soundaudio]

Anyone tried a good power cord for the digital box set up box ?Heard that can improve PQ.

 

http://www.oyaide.com/e_audio/audio_products_files/li15dpc.htm

[hotbird]

Using it, and loving it  ;D

[pawpet]

U are using it on SCV digital set up box to TV? Does it get better video and audio ??

[hotbird]

Yes, both video and the sound improve. If you want further improvement to your

scv digital box, discard the antenna coax cables and use the rca-audio and coaxial-video

on the scv box to connect to the tv via the same inputs. You can use better cables or

zu-disco/firemine or oyaide/lower end acrolink (but only 1 m lengths, special order

for other lengths) for these connections.

You will find that the watching SCV would never be the same again as washed out colors

and thin sound are gone. To further improve the enjoyment, clean the connections with

Deoxit and enhance with Caig Progold. That's all I can advise for getting the ultimate

performance from SCV digital box Have fun  ;D  ;D  ;D

 

U are using it on SCV digital set up box to TV? Does it get better video and audio ??

[ciputra]

MMMmm sound so much hassle for such "ADVANCED DIGITAL SETOP BOX FROM OUR BELOVED SCV"  :P 

[hotbird]

Not many people know that the SCV digital box can be squeezed into dvd-like performance.

Just sharing the tweaks, if you want quality improvements, be prepared to work for it  ;D

 

MMMmm sound so much hassle for such "ADVANCED DIGITAL SETOP BOX FROM OUR BELOVED SCV"  :P 

[pawpet]

wow wow wow!! I just bought a LCD TV and looking to improve both sound and video output with my digital SCV box set up. Currently, I am connecting the wall SCV socket to "Cable in" in SCV box and then "TV" on SCV box to "antenna" in my DVDR. For video and audio, I am using RCA cables. So, what should I do, Change the power cord on SCV box?? Change the video/audio cables? What else and where do i get them??

[hotbird]

Like you I used to use the "TV" antenna out on SCV box to my plasma antenna in.

But I found that the sound was mono and thin, and the color was washed out and images

not sharp

As the SCV digital box has additional 2 more sets of composite (ie 2 audio/1 video rca)

outputs (one for tv/one for recording), you can buy audiophile grade cables to connect to

your LCD TV/plasma/recorder.

 

I recommend the following brands of composite cables

 

1.  Zu Disco audio/Firemine video  (starting from SGD$120 for a 1 meter length)

     These are the most basic line, there are more expensive higher models, but for me

     the lower models are sufficient performance for plasma tv usage. I chose these

     as I needed long lengths of 1.5 to 2m which the local vendor does stock.

     The packaging is very attractive too.

     Can be bought at Music by Design

     http://www.soundconsultants.net/index_contactus.htm

 

2.  Better Cables

     Around the same price range as Zu but looks less attractive in

     appearance.A friend uses them and found them good value too.

     They can be bought at Millennium Smart Homes

     http://www.millennium.sg/contact%20us.htm

 

3.   Oyaide/Acrolink

      Oyaide DR 510 Silver Coaxial Cables for video (0.7 m and 1.3 m lengths only)

      http://www.oyaide.com/e_audio/audio_products_files/dr_db-510.htm

      Oyaide Li15 power cord with US 2 pole (figure 8) male plug and 2 pin C7 female plug

      http://www.oyaide.com/e_audio/audio_products_files/li15dpc.htm

      Acrolink 6N-2050II RCA interconnect

      http://classifieds.singnet.com.sg/search.cfm?keyword=880212+&classid=5

      Just slightly more expensive than the above 2 mentioned brands but when compared

      provides much better performance than the other two. But they come in lengths

      that were too short for my SCV application. I will upgrade to them if they bring in longer

      lengths.

      I bought the Oyaide Li15 power cord (default 2m length), and that improved the sound and video

      performance just like changing audiophile power cords to your hifi system.

      Acrolink and Oyaide products can be bought at X-Audio (address in the classified ad)

      I currently also use a pair of 2050 Acrolink cables for my bedroom hifi.

      They also sell Caig DeOxit and Progold contact enhancers.

 

wow wow wow!! I just bought a LCD TV and looking to improve both sound and video output with my digital SCV box set up. Currently, I am connecting the wall SCV socket to "Cable in" in SCV box and then "TV" on SCV box to "antenna" in my DVDR. For video and audio, I am using RCA cables. So, what should I do, Change the power cord on SCV box?? Change the video/audio cables? What else and where do i get them??

[Desperado]

Like you I used to use the "TV" antenna out on SCV box to my plasma antenna in.

But I found that the sound was mono and thin, and the color was washed out and images

not sharp

As the SCV digital box has additional 2 more sets of composite (ie 2 audio/1 video rca)

outputs (one for tv/one for recording), you can buy audiophile grade cables to connect to

your LCD TV/plasma/recorder.

 

 

I thought it is known fact that RF ("TV antenna") is lower quality than composite (yellow color RCA)?

Thus using Composite + stereo (white/red) will definitely give better performance.

 

Rather than spend a fortune on the "exotic" cable, I recommend to use budget but high perfomance Belden 1694a cable.

Cost abt $3/m and terminate it with canare crimp RCA connector. For 1 m cable, it costs less than $20.

Try search for Belden 1694a in this forum. You might like what you see.

 

 

[hotbird]

A 75 ohm coaxial cable is the standard to carry video signals, which is why

video cables are not your normal audio cables.

Use whatever you can afford, but do check the specs of what each

cable is meant for.

 

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/video/videocoax.html

 

I thought it is known fact that RF ("TV antenna") is lower quality than composite (yellow color RCA)?

Thus using Composite + stereo (white/red) will definitely give better performance.

 

Rather than spend a fortune on the "exotic" cable, I recommend to use budget but high perfomance Belden 1694a cable.

Cost abt $3/m and terminate it with canare crimp RCA connector. For 1 m cable, it costs less than $20.

Try search for Belden 1694a in this forum. You might like what you see.

 

 

[Desperado]

A 75 ohm coaxial cable is the standard to carry video signals, which is why

video cables are not your normal audio cables.

Use whatever you can afford, but do check the specs of what each

cable is meant for.

 

Ah... What makes you think Belden 1694a is not 75 ohm coax for video?

 

Like I said, do a search on Belden 1964a, not only in this forum, but also google it in www.

 

[ciputra]

Not many people know that the SCV digital box can be squeezed into dvd-like performance.

Just sharing the tweaks, if you want quality improvements, be prepared to work for it  ;D

 

Sorry mate...sounds too far fetch for the 'garbage' that is SCV already is. Garbage In won't have Gold out...just my two cents. A well  made power cable need not be costing the bombs just for the setopbox

[hotbird]

The Oyaide power cable is not expensive for my budget, a dinner for my family on weekend costs much more  ;D

Different budget, different strokes, suit your self, nobody forcing you to buy stuff that may be too deep

for your pockets...   ;) . Just answering somebody's queries here, remember?

 

Sorry mate...sounds too far fetch for the 'garbage' that is SCV already is. Garbage In won't have Gold out...just my two cents. A well  made power cable need not be costing the bombs just for the setopbox

[ciputra]

The Oyaide power cable is not expensive for my budget, a dinner for my family on weekend costs much more  ;D

Different budget, different strokes, suit your self, nobody forcing you to buy stuff that may be too deep

for your pockets...  ;) . Just answering somebody's queries here, remember?

 

Yup.too rich for my blood, but no offense again this statement from you seems abit far fetched : "Not many people know that the SCV digital box can be squeezed into dvd-like performance"

[hotbird]

Please lah, I wrote dvd-like and not dvd quality, meaning that the quality is better than vcd and approaching dvd, but it is

sure a big mouthful to describe it like this... are you making a mountain of a molehill???  :o

 

Yup.too rich for my blood, but no offense again this statement from you seems abit far fetched : "Not many people know that the SCV digital box can be squeezed into dvd-like performance"

[etanel]

Please lah, I wrote dvd-like and not dvd quality, meaning that the quality is better than vcd and approaching dvd, but it is

sure a big mouthful to describe it like this... are you making a mountain of a molehill???  :o

 

 

err...brother....yr comments are realli too far fetch mah...dvd like quality...but no offence...how like the dvd quality is it? primarily, the algorithm and bitstream of the vcd and dvd are quite different, no doubt both are based on discrete cosine transform, but the scanning pattern and so on are totally different and the pq are veri different. of course, if u r looking at the pq from a low end display, maybe a vcd will look like dvd lor...but a high end display will be veri much different.

 

one of my friend saw yr comment and ask me this "can i buy a $100 dvd player, pair wi the cables he mentioned, and maybe pair with a set of $500 components and hope for 1080p pq?" oh gosh.....

[etanel]

Ah... What makes you think Belden 1694a is not 75 ohm coax for video?

 

Like I said, do a search on Belden 1964a, not only in this forum, but also google it in www.

 

 

1694a is suitable for video.

[etanel]

I thought it is known fact that RF ("TV antenna") is lower quality than composite (yellow color RCA)?

Thus using Composite + stereo (white/red) will definitely give better performance.

 

Rather than spend a fortune on the "exotic" cable, I recommend to use budget but high perfomance Belden 1694a cable.

Cost abt $3/m and terminate it with canare crimp RCA connector. For 1 m cable, it costs less than $20.

Try search for Belden 1694a in this forum. You might like what you see.

 

 

 

it is a well known fact, at least to pple who are in this field, it is basically the way of video transmission. the coax has more losses as it is more compressed. there is the compsite which is slightly better as there are more bw for the video signal. however, the luminance and the chrominace components are still "mixed".

 

maybe if one would to try a average pair of composite cables first..then compared to the exp. cables....then it will be a more meaningful results. comparing a set of exp. cables to the default coax is pointless.. even a $5 pair of composite can kick the coax butt left, right and center.

 

oh pls dun flame me...i am just a poor researcher in this particular field...just sharing my 2cents as like mr. ciputra.

[hotbird]

Duh..if I can swap the SCV starhub digital box for a better cable box, I am all for it, but being subjected to a monopoly, you have to make the best of this box, by using all available tweaks. I pay much more than S$100 every month for the starhub subscription, and since one cannot buy a better box, not like one can go shopping for Pioneer 969, one have to squeeze the best performance out of it. Before the tweaks, the SCV box was like watching an old VCR system, now it is much better, like watching a DVD system. If you watch a lot of cable more than DVDS, this is what one can do. Again terminology, DVD-like is just a relative term. Eg one can say Harisu the transvestite Korean actress is a very woman-like, but is he a woman?  ;)

 

 

err...brother....yr comments are realli too far fetch mah...dvd like quality...but no offence...how like the dvd quality is it? primarily, the algorithm and bitstream of the vcd and dvd are quite different, no doubt both are based on discrete cosine transform, but the scanning pattern and so on are totally different and the pq are veri different. of course, if u r looking at the pq from a low end display, maybe a vcd will look like dvd lor...but a high end display will be veri much different.

 

one of my friend saw yr comment and ask me this "can i buy a $100 dvd player, pair wi the cables he mentioned, and maybe pair with a set of $500 components and hope for 1080p pq?" oh gosh.....

[hotbird]

It is a very little-known fact to people not into HT hightime the stuff you write below. Moreover, most laymen just live with the starhub box using the default coax. And not everyone is into DIY at SimLim Towers... many just buy the much publicised Monsters cables, or just the Taiwanese Daiyo cables and the like offered at Best/Harvey Norman. The cables recommended are the budget series for their respective brands, and not the top models. They may be expensive relative to your $5 DIY, but if you can afford this hobby, such indulgence is normal.  ;D

A watch connoisseur in a watch forum needs not explain why he need to fork out $$$ to buy his Lange when a normal Casio or Seiko suffice  ;)

 

it is a well known fact, at least to pple who are in this field, it is basically the way of video transmission. the coax has more losses as it is more compressed. there is the compsite which is slightly better as there are more bw for the video signal. however, the luminance and the chrominace components are still "mixed".

 

maybe if one would to try a average pair of composite cables first..then compared to the exp. cables....then it will be a more meaningful results. comparing a set of exp. cables to the default coax is pointless.. even a $5 pair of composite can kick the coax butt left, right and center.

 

oh pls dun flame me...i am just a poor researcher in this particular field...just sharing my 2cents as like mr. ciputra.

[etanel]

It is a very little-known fact to people not into HT hightime the stuff you write below. Moreover, most laymen just live with the starhub box using the default coax. And not everyone is into DIY at SimLim Towers... many just buy the much publicised Monsters cables, or just the Taiwanese Daiyo cables and the like offered at Best/Harvey Norman. The cables recommended are the budget series for their respective brands, and not the top models. They may be expensive relative to your $5 DIY, but if you can afford this hobby, such indulgence is normal.  ;D

A watch connoisseur in a watch forum needs not explain why he need to fork out $$$ to buy his Lange when a normal Casio or Seiko suffice  ;)

 

 

i am not saying that yr approach is wrong, if $$ is not an problem, i would have some reference equipment in my house now, after been in this industry for a while, my hearing and vision has been aligned to many reference performance and found most consumer level equipments lacking. it is a blessing to be ignorant.

 

"A watch connoisseur in a watch forum needs not explain why he need to fork out $$$ to buy his Lange when a normal Casio or Seiko suffice", of course he doesnt have to explain why...i have watches ranging from $10 to $10k plus too. but in a watch forum, many pple will know why is that watch so exp...., so why explain

 

for now, u r in a audio and visual forum, and we just find that yr approach is not optimal...if that is the case, wi that $$, i will open up the box and change the video processor instead and get kickass performance at a fraction of yr cost and get maybe DVD-like performance?. ..so mr hotbird, let me ask u... wat objective measure did u use to say that the pq is nearer to dvd quality. if u understand the nature of vcd and dvd, u will NEVER say that it will be near as because of a few cable upgrade, as i CAN almost quite safely say that it is not possible unless additional processing is employed. there are issues like the temporal compression and so on, do a google check, u will find more insights there. i have no wish to perform a technical lecture for all pple reading this thread. (maybe a personal one can be done for u, mr. hotbirdie?)

 

there are pple who always think their purchase is good, it is just human nature, of course comparing the default coax to the exp cable is definitely a knock out. but did u look at the difference wat a normal pair of composite cables can do first (it would not kill rite)? surely a hotbirdie like u should be able to do it and give some objective views there. get the difference and tell wat is the additional $$ spent for? for a 1dB gain or for a 0.5dB gain.?

 

of course, if u need objective measuring equipment, let me know, i have access to equipments costing several tens of thousands to do all these and might be able to help wi this, as i AM in this industy. and FYI, there are some industy experts in this particular thread now, and found yr remarks veri amusing.... so lets be be fair and objective to ur claims unless u r just a saleperson trynig to push some products. if not, post some pictures, at least a before and after, a hotbirdie like u should at least have a good digital camera and should how to include the pics here rite? if not, there are many pple who can help u here.

 

so i would say that for now, lets wait for some pics from mr. hotbirdie and his infamous cables to knock the socks out of the pple here. be a good sport, and share some pics for the benefits for all here and maybe we can also learn one or two from you. ;D

[hotbird]

I treat this as a hobby HT forum and not a professional one, if you think you are so professional to conduct DBT testing and debates on the virtues of a Belden vs exotic cables, I do not have the patience to parry with you. We will keep our opinions to ourselves.

I like to use the word dvd-like, until the moderators think it is a very inaccurate term and limit the use only after passing PQ testing by professional HT-Idol judges like you, it's up to me to use the term as I like, call it free expression if you want. Show pictures to you to prove it? Does HT here stands for HighcourtTestimonal? Sheesh.... just giving friendly recommendations here and if it is not your cup of tea, just ditch it, no need to summon the grand Inquisition by a HT pope  ;)

 

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for now, u r in a audio and visual forum, and we just find that yr approach is not optimal...if that is the case, wi that $$, i will open up the box and change the video processor instead and get kickass performance at a fraction of yr cost and get maybe DVD-like performance?. ..so mr hotbird, let me ask u... wat objective measure did u use to say that the pq is nearer to dvd quality. if u understand the nature of vcd and dvd, u will NEVER say that it will be near as because of a few cable upgrade, as i CAN almost quite safely say that it is not possible unless additional processing is employed. there are issues like the temporal compression and so on, do a google check, u will find more insights there. i have no wish to perform a technical lecture for all pple reading this thread. (maybe a personal one can be done for u, mr. hotbirdie?)

 

there are pple who always think their purchase is good, it is just human nature, of course comparing the default coax to the exp cable is definitely a knock out. but did u look at the difference wat a normal pair of composite cables can do first (it would not kill rite)? surely a hotbirdie like u should be able to do it and give some objective views there. get the difference and tell wat is the additional $$ spent for? for a 1dB gain or for a 0.5dB gain.?

 

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so i would say that for now, lets wait for some pics from mr. hotbirdie and his infamous cables to knock the socks out of the pple here. be a good sport, and share some pics for the benefits for all here and maybe we can also learn one or two from you. ;D

[Desperado]

Let me summarize, and to prevent this thread become a flaming thread....

 

Ciputra, etanel and my points are:

- there will be an improvement by using composite video compare to using TV antenna connection,

- there is a cheaper alternative selection for composite video cable besides the ones recommended by hotbird. And do not expect major improvement by using the expensive one. if somebody's pocket is deep enuf to buy the expensive ones, by all means go ahead.

 

Hotbird has different point of view where he has experience of improved viewing of SCV programmes using the more costly cables.

 

Now we have opposing views on this subject. Which one the readers choose to believe is totally their call....

 

So, shall we leave the discussion as it is then?

 

[SiriuslyCold]

maybe we should take a slight detour into this AVS thread, and come back with renewed enthusiasm ;)

 

[pawpet]

Well well well.....I have not changed my power cord but I did change the cable from the SCV wall socket to the SCV digital box and also changed the video and audio cable connecting the SCV box to the TV ------ everything was WOW !!!. When I was using the supplied SCV cable (ie the white coloured ones ) - i keep getting mosaic looking pics on my TV and the colour was a bit too strong. When I change that cable, it was WOW ! No more dropped signals and the color was > natural. And when I change the video/audio --- it is certainly clearer and sharper image.