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Interesting review. Good job. But I spotted a spelling error in the first page with the word 'gadget'. :)

 

btw, can anyone explain thx to me? I thought it is a sound standard by Lucas and to qualify as thx ht, u need to pass tests, including equipts,rooms etc and get a cert, or something like that. Having a thx amp doesn't really meant anything.

 

or is the diff in thx is so diff than dts/dd that we can hear straight forward?

 

thanks.

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V. nice review. As well-known to all, the Marantz is really a great receiver...... all the features at a low price.

 

Speaking of which, u might want to go to www.remotecentral.com and have a look on how the remote can be programmed for that personalised touch.

 

Urs should be the marantz twin of the prontoneo.

 

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My personal recommendation...if you're buting Manrantz Receiver...I would perosnally recommend SR8200 over SR9200 (one thing is the near $1K difference)...and the other thing is the power handling for the channels is 120W/Ch for SR8200 and 140W/Ch for SR9200. The latter have the THX-Ultra certification though...the former only Select series.

 

Speaking of which...maybe explain abit on THX-Select and THX-Ultra:

1) THX-Ultra - In short have the capability to "expand" the soundstage to a wider area...it's very good for users for a room or living hall with very spacious room to play with and especially good if the distance from one speaker to another is very great...for instance, Front speaker and left speaker is approx. 8ft away from your listening position! The Ultra series is able to "fill-up" the gap and made the surround very powerful fill up the whole room! In addition, the Ultra series are able to utilize the THX-Cinema (common) for movie viewing and also THX-Music for music listening pleasure...the latter can optimize the rear surround channels making the lisening environment 360 degresss field!

 

2) THX-Select - The small brother of THX-Ultra...pratically almost the oppsosite of the abovementioned except that the price wise is made more affordable...but sometimes we have to think back...unless your room or living hall is REALLY that spacious IF NOT what's the point of getting THX-Ultra...For a normal HDB dweller like me, SELECT series improved to be a better buy and save you alot...Note that the performance is the SAME as the test made on SR9200 is the same as SR8200 series except that Ultra series have more juice when comes to listening to music as emphasis "have been" placed on the rear surround....And that's really good!

 

If got extra cassh of course encourage to go for Ultra series if not Select series is good enough for practically all HDB dwellers like me lor...:)

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U can ask Jonlee...My quoting price for SR8200 is around $2300.00 while the price for SR9200 is coming to $2,900.00. Both price quotation from my friend at Merdeka Audio.

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Below is an extract from a Forum discussing about the problem which exist in the Marantz SR8200 Receiver...And I have to agreed with this guy by the name of PhilM...

 

Jonlee I thought this may be an issue to you too...as U have purchased the SR8200 Receiver too recently. Take a look below: :-\

 

I just purchased a 8200 yesterday and I'm mixed. There were a couple factors that really drew me to to the 8200, one being the remote, and another being Marantz's reputation for music reproduction, and the RS 232 port for future upgrades. I figured that I may have to give up some HT ability for great music sound.

 

Well, this is why I'm mixed. I've had a chance to watch a couple DVD's (in DD) and they were WONDERFUL! I've also played around with PL2 with some laserdiscs, and they too were great. It beats my old Denon 3300 hands down. Sound was very dynamic and enveloping, it just really drew you in and surrounded you. It had a very full and smooth sound even at very loud levels. I was greatly surprised!

 

I've also had a chance to listen to various CD's that I am very familiar with. I've done so in both stereo mode as well as multiple DSP modes including PL2 music. This is where I'm not satisfied. There is just too much bass, it sounds unatural. I have the sub calibrated at 83-84 and the rest of the channels at 75. With some modes it sounds as though the center channel should be backed down as well.

 

Part of the problem is the inability to set channel levels, you CAN NOT select or adjust individual channel levels (for the most part). In the main set-up you select large/small (80 hz crossover)and yes/no sub, then you go into the test tones page to adjust the levels WHILE the tones are playing (universally for all surround modes).

 

You do not have the ability to adjust individual channels by themselves without the test tones playing! And once adjusted you cannot adjust them via input? I couldn't believe it. I guess I was spoiled by my previous Denon(s) because I had the ability to set individual channel levels for each source and it would remember each setting. On music modes from my CD player I would lower the sub levels, and for digital inputs I would have the LFE at another setting, and then for signals coming from my replay, I would again bump up the sub level some, and sometimes decrease the center level.

 

The above is impossible with the 8200 I have.

 

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You do not have the ability to adjust individual channels by themselves without the test tones playing! And once adjusted you cannot adjust them via input? I couldn't believe it. I guess I was spoiled by my previous Denon(s) because I had the ability to set individual channel levels for each source and it would remember each setting. On music modes from my CD player I would lower the sub levels, and for digital inputs I would have the LFE at another setting, and then for signals coming from my replay, I would again bump up the sub level some, and sometimes decrease the center level.

 

guess i'll have to stick with my denon :(

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You do not have the ability to adjust individual channels by themselves without the test tones playing! And once adjusted you cannot adjust them via input? I couldn't believe it. I guess I was spoiled by my previous Denon(s) because I had the ability to set individual channel levels for each source and it would remember each setting. On music modes from my CD player I would lower the sub levels, and for digital inputs I would have the LFE at another setting, and then for signals coming from my replay, I would again bump up the sub level some, and sometimes decrease the center level.

 

guess i'll have to stick with my denon :(

 

Confused! Waz that felo complaining?? He wans 2 adjust e speaker level 4 each input.. e.g. CD, DVD, LD & etc or for each mode... direct, DD, DTS, DSP & etc??

 

Phil

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From my understanding...the SR8200 allows u to adjust individual channel level, but the same adjustment will be applied throughout all input (DVD, CD, etc...).

 

His old denon can have different adjustment for different input.

 

Will try out when my 82000 arrives tonite...

 

You do not have the ability to adjust individual channels by themselves without the test tones playing! And once adjusted you cannot adjust them via input? I couldn't believe it. I guess I was spoiled by my previous Denon(s) because I had the ability to set individual channel levels for each source and it would remember each setting. On music modes from my CD player I would lower the sub levels, and for digital inputs I would have the LFE at another setting, and then for signals coming from my replay, I would again bump up the sub level some, and sometimes decrease the center level.

 

guess i'll have to stick with my denon :(

 

Confused! Waz that felo complaining?? He wans 2 adjust e speaker level 4 each input.. e.g. CD, DVD, LD & etc or for each mode... direct, DD, DTS, DSP & etc??

 

Phil

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On my receipt, it stated the SR8200 as $2400 (b4 trade in).

 

U can ask Jonlee...My quoting price for SR8200 is around $2300.00 while the price for SR9200 is coming to $2,900.00. Both price quotation from my friend at Merdeka Audio.

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From my understanding...the SR8200 allows u to adjust individual channel level, but the same adjustment will be applied throughout all input (DVD, CD, etc...).

 

His old denon can have different adjustment for different input.

 

Will try out when my 82000 arrives tonite...

 

 

I c.. dun is it really necessary??

 

Adjust once & it should apply 4 all.. I mean its juz 2 balance e sound level of all speakers... 4 my case.. my Rotel got a separate gain setting 4 e sub for each mode, stereo, DD, DTS & DSP. IMHO, more than enuff liao..

 

Phil

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As far as I'm concerned...DENON is able to individually adjust the sound level for each channel...BUT Marantz receiver is not able to do that for the SR8200 series onwards...can you believe that...!?!

 

That's what the guy is complaining about. And Marantz techs have already acknowledged the problem and yet provided no means of solution and also no hint as to whether or not Marantz Co. is going to perform a software upgrade or not...That's what making him so piss-off...

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Touching on the surround formats...SR8200 claimed that the Receiver is able to decode DD EX signal...I played the Castaway DVD and also the T2 DVD - (Both discs with Dolby Digital EX)...But can't seem to see any "Dolby D EX" displayed on the front panel LCD screen leh...Jonlee...can you do a test on any of your titles with DD EX signal and tell me whether or not you able to see it...If I'm not mistaken, the signal is there bt normally the Receiver will not display as DD EX even if you enable the THX SUR EX to power up the Surround Back channels...Can anyone assist to clarify...I read an article regarding one of the Flagship of Pioneer Receiver series also stating that it has problem in "discerning" the DD EX signal....

 

By choosing DD EX and enabling THX SUR EX...the speaker settings also does'nt show up the 6.1 Surround channels been employed...weird isn't it...?! On the contrary, disc encoded in dts-es have all 6.1 speaker settings lit-up...I meant ain't "EX" meant the Surround Back Channels like the dts-es...?

 

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As far as I'm concerned...DENON is able to individually adjust the sound level for each channel...BUT Marantz receiver is not able to do that for the SR8200 series onwards...can you believe that...!?!

 

R u kidding me?? I thot thats 1 of e basic feature of all A/V amps/receiver/processor...

 

Thats pretty bad coz e channel level by default will never be balanced... due 2 factors like speaker size, placement & type.

 

Hopefully they release a new firmware 2 resolve this issue... this is really weird 4 a high-end receiver... how it gets it THX badge in e 1st place??

 

Phil

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??? How can that be? Even my super low-end Marantz SR5000 can set each channel individually. In fact, it remembers different settings for DD and DTS (except subwoofer).

 

Have you guys re-read the manuals? Marantz manual usually sux, but should have info on there, right?

 

8)

 

As far as I'm concerned...DENON is able to individually adjust the sound level for each channel...BUT Marantz receiver is not able to do that for the SR8200 series onwards...can you believe that...!?!

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SR8200 can adjust the sound level for each SPEAKER. After adjustment, the same settings will be applied across all format (stereo, DD, DTS, THX, etc...) and all source (DVD, CD, Tuner, etc.....). Maybe Marantz thinks that the sound level adjustment is only meant to cater for different speaker size and placement......

 

I think desray was referring to that denon can have a different settings for sound level for each SPEAKER for each input channel (DVD, CD, tuner, etc...). Correct? (sorry, me never use denon before).

 

But this is only based on my 1 hr of setup with the SR8200 last nite. Damn bloody complicated compared to my old SR5000......

 

As far as I'm concerned...DENON is able to individually adjust the sound level for each channel...BUT Marantz receiver is not able to do that for the SR8200 series onwards...can you believe that...!?!

 

R u kidding me?? I thot thats 1 of e basic feature of all A/V amps/receiver/processor...

 

Thats pretty bad coz e channel level by default will never be balanced... due 2 factors like speaker size, placement & type.

 

Hopefully they release a new firmware 2 resolve this issue... this is really weird 4 a high-end receiver... how it gets it THX badge in e 1st place??

 

Phil

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The possibility of SR8200 performing HDCD decoding is possible in future upgrades...coz there's a HDCD logo display imprinted onto the LCD screen of the Receiver...moreover there's been extensive discussion and rumours in a Forum stating mixed confirmations from the Marantz officials that SR8200 is capable of HDCD decoding...despite the fact the specs showed otherwise... ;)

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It would be pessimistic to say this, but it doesn't make logical business sense to make an amp thats able to perform all of todays and the future decodings just by upgrading the firmware.

 

Many AV brands, including Meridian promised upgrade of functionality thru future upgrades, but never delivered due to the above reason. The ony firmware upgrade served to iron out bugs in the settings config.

 

But if marantz can truly deliver sustained upgrades that improve the performance, then sure as bet, I'll switch to Marantz. :P :P

 

 

 

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Touching on the surround formats...SR8200 claimed that the Receiver is able to decode DD EX signal...I played the Castaway DVD and also the T2 DVD - (Both discs with Dolby Digital EX)...But can't seem to see any "Dolby D EX" displayed on the front panel LCD screen leh...Jonlee...can you do a test on any of your titles with DD EX signal and tell me whether or not you able to see it...If I'm not mistaken, the signal is there bt normally the Receiver will not display as DD EX even if you enable the THX SUR EX to power up the Surround Back channels...Can anyone assist to clarify...I read an article regarding one of the Flagship of Pioneer Receiver series also stating that it has problem in "discerning" the DD EX signal....

 

By choosing DD EX and enabling THX SUR EX...the speaker settings also does'nt show up the 6.1 Surround channels been employed...weird isn't it...?! On the contrary, disc encoded in dts-es have all 6.1 speaker settings lit-up...I meant ain't "EX" meant the Surround Back Channels like the dts-es...?

 

 

I wouldn't worry much about DD-EX DVDs not having the "EX" symbol on the front panel. Problem lies much in the DD stream having the EX-flag On/Off.

 

I turn on Ex/Es decoding for all my dvds now... surround sounds more engaging to me anyway with SB.

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It would be pessimistic to say this, but it doesn't make logical business sense to make an amp thats able to perform all of todays and the future decodings just by upgrading the firmware.

 

It does in a way: nowadays most of the chips can decode all the various formats available.

But in order to differentiate products, and because of various royalty schemes some features are not used at the top level.

 

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It would be pessimistic to say this, but it doesn't make logical business sense to make an amp thats able to perform all of todays and the future decodings just by upgrading the firmware.

 

Many AV brands, including Meridian promised upgrade of functionality thru future upgrades, but never delivered due to the above reason. The ony firmware upgrade served to iron out bugs in the settings config.

 

But if marantz can truly deliver sustained upgrades that improve the performance, then sure as bet, I'll switch to Marantz. :P :P

 

Not sure abt Marantz but I does heard some brand offer upgrade.. like Sony 9000s, Onkyo 989.... & Tag Maclaren..

 

Phil

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