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The marantz is a good machine. Heard it before, but somehow its build quality wasn't the same as the generations for this.

 

Lower end yamahas are fine, but Marantz is a better buy. Come up to RX-V1200, they are the best; especially if u're using a Pronto or Prontopro.

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The marantz is a good machine. Heard it before, but somehow its build quality wasn't the same as the generations for this.

 

Lower end yamahas are fine, but Marantz is a better buy. Come up to RX-V1200, they are the best; especially if u're using a Pronto or Prontopro.

 

Hi Jag,

 

what has Yammie got to do with Pronto or ProntoPro? I was actually planning to get the Pronto Pro.

 

Cheers

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wahh.... the advantages of yamaha pairing with pronto and its pro version.......... a bit chim to explain, but here goes.

 

Discrete codes.

 

Discrete codes = Extended IR codes = dedicated IR buttons. These are codes that are non-toggling; coz some AV rxrs used the same button press to toggle between ON and STANDBY.

 

No other AV reciever I've worked with has got so many discrete codes than the yammy. (Only applies to yammy 800 and above at this time)

 

 

Example 1) Yamaha has got a separate "ON" IR code from "OFF" code. Some AV rxr toggle between ON & Standby by pressing the same button. Thats difficult to program into pronto when we require a one-touch "system shut-down" button to properly turn off the whole AV system.

 

Example 2) Speaker A/B. Yamaha has the ability to select spkr A and spkr B from the pronto. Very useful for switching between speakers for HT and music.

 

Example 3) Yammy has got the ability to switch to a certain input source, change to a preset surround mode, preset volume level just from one touch.So one touch and u can switch from PL2 tuner to DTS-ES DVD. You can't do this with the supplied remote.

 

 

Yamaha has got more than enough such IR codes that do their on individual functions. No other brands come close to yamaha's flexibility.

 

 

There is just too many extended IR codes that pronto can generate just for yamaha users. Too many to list here. If u want, I can send the list to u.

 

A pronto is great! But having a pronto & a Yamaha, the sky's the limit for HT automation.

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Agree with Jag on the discrete IR codes. Currently I have to progam 2 buttons on my Ucommand 515 just to on / off my Yammie 2095.

 

Many might not agree on spending $1.3K on a remote control but it's the Pronto Pro for me or nothing.

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wow... 1.3k fo a remote... wow.... OOO.... WAD!? 1.3k! man... i can buy a new 6.1 amp with tat... is tat really a necssesity? with out tat the yammy dun work @ its max capability? ???

 

It's not a must but it's good have....if you're willing to spend.

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ProntoPro is really the peak of HT. No remotes out there comes even close to it! (I don't count AMX as a remote, but it sucks if its adapted for a remote control role)

 

 

Quote: "with out tat the yammy dun work @ its max capability? "

 

Its more like with this, the yammy can work above and beyond its max capability! ;D ;D

 

Check out this URL. Look for ProntoPro. http://www.remotecentral.com/remotes.htm#tsu6000

 

 

 

 

 

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ProntoPro is really the peak of HT. No remotes out there comes even close to it! (I don't count AMX as a remote, but it sucks if its adapted for a remote control role)

 

 

Quote: "with out tat the yammy dun work @ its max capability? "

 

Its more like with this, the yammy can work above and beyond its max capability! ;D ;D

 

Check out this URL. Look for ProntoPro. http://www.remotecentral.com/remotes.htm#tsu6000

 

 

OOO nice! errmm YO JAG... u work for yamaha or someting? :P trying to promote sales in the region? HAHAH! :D yammy's price is competitive... but i do not like the front panel.. its not made of metal... while trying to look like one... but the inside' of wad it made up of is really good... their amps are all @ 8ohmz.. tinking of my lousy marantz is 6ohms...

 

NICE ON THE OUTSIDE... SHIT ON THE INSIDE...

 

yammy is SHIT OUT THE OUSIDE... GREAT PIECE OF WORK IN THE INSIDE! :-X

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huh? how does 8ohms and 6ohms rating determine how good is a amp? if it is referring to the min spk impedance that the amp can drive, the smaller the impedance, the better the amp (small load more difficult to drive).

 

if base on this alone, marantz is better.

 

.. their amps are all @ 8ohmz.. tinking of my lousy marantz is 6ohms...

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WHOOPS! i tink not... a 8ohmz @ 100watts

where as u compare a 6ohmz @ 100watts...

 

if u use a 8ohmz @ 100watts to power a 8ohms speaker.... u'll get 100watts output... in theory

 

but if u use a 6ohmz @ 100watts to drive a 8ohms speaker which is a common value nowadays u'll get only 75watts of OUTPUT power....

 

correct me if i'm wrong.. but from the formula in school i learnt it should be correct...

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I wish I work for yamaha..... then got new receivers to play every year...... ;D ;D ;D

 

I don't really like any models below RX-V1200. My 2200 has got metal face plate with oil-damped panel door. Overall, excellent build quality. The lower end models don't look slick in contrast. Besides, I don't bother to examine yamaha's lower models.

 

So, I'd say if got more moola to spare, try yamaha.

 

If not much moola to splash, then marantz is really value for money.

 

But usually, comparing power for power, the impedance does affect the output power. Denon and yamaha use 8ohms when stating RMW power on its specs sheet.

 

Me started with a kenwood and stated gathering my wishlist for the next av amp from there. Me today is a yamaha happy chappy.

 

OOO nice! errmm YO JAG... u work for yamaha or someting? :P trying to promote sales in the region? HAHAH! :D yammy's price is competitive... but i do not like the front panel.. its not made of metal... while trying to look like one... but the inside' of wad it made up of is really good... their amps are all @ 8ohmz.. tinking of my lousy marantz is 6ohms...

 

NICE ON THE OUTSIDE... SHIT ON THE INSIDE...

 

yammy is SHIT OUT THE OUSIDE... GREAT PIECE OF WORK IN THE INSIDE! :-X

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Very correct for the abbot. :P

 

100W @ 6ohms = 75W @ 8ohms

 

So comparing at 8ohms,

 

the amp would only manage 75W, in contrast! Of course, there are more parameters to note.... THD, SNR, simultaneous 6-channel pwr.

 

A 100W amp may be rated when only one channel is under test. When all 6 channels are testing simultaneously, the power can drop from 100W/channel to barely 50+W/channel. (One brand I know is K______)

 

But wattage is not the only thing that matters. Its how the amp sounds and how it gels with your setup & speakers!

 

Don't feel bad about this short coming. Learn and strive better in the next upgrade cycle!. ;D ;D ;D

 

WHOOPS! i tink not... a 8ohmz @ 100watts

where as u compare a 6ohmz @ 100watts...

 

if u use a 8ohmz @ 100watts to power a 8ohms speaker.... u'll get 100watts output... in theory

 

but if u use a 6ohmz @ 100watts to drive a 8ohms speaker which is a common value nowadays u'll get only 75watts of OUTPUT power....

 

correct me if i'm wrong.. but from the formula in school i learnt it should be correct...

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