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I am looking for advice on dip-switch settings for Project S2 tube box dip switches to make compatible with my Apheta 2 MC cartridge. Don’t have much understanding of the specifications, etc so as much information as possible would be greatly appreciated. 
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11 hours ago, Marcusperth said:

I am looking for advice on dip-switch settings for Project S2 tube box dip switches to make compatible with my Apheta 2 MC cartridge. Don’t have much understanding of the specifications, etc so as much information as possible would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks!

 

I looked but couldn't find any mention on-line of the dipswitch options.  Can you scan in that section of the User Manual ... then we might be able to advise?

 

Andy

 

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https://www.project-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Manual_Tube-Box-S2.pdf

 

Use these settings for your MC cartridge (in bold below) as a start.

input capacitance 587pF(1-ON, 2-ON, 3-ON)

input impedance100ohms(4-OFF, 5-OFF, 6-OFF, 7-ON, 8-OFF)

 

Settings

 

Use the dip switches at the bottom of the unit to set input capacitance and input impedance.

Please set both channels equally.To find out which type your cartridge is please consult the literature accompanying your cartridge.

The literature for cartridges should also specify the correct input impedance(low-output MC cartridges) and the correct input capacitance (high-output MC and MM cartridges), into which the cartridge is designed to work.

If in doubt please consult your dealer

.To alter settings the unit must be disconnected from the power supply

and the amplifier.

 

Setting for MM and high output MC cartridges

 

47pF is basic is the lowest fixed setting.

DIP switches 1, 2 and 3 add more capacitance

input capacitance 147pF(1-OFF, 2-OFF, 3-ON)

input capacitance 267pF(1-OFF, 2-ON, 3-OFF)

input capacitance 367pF(1-ON, 2-OFF, 3-ON)

input capacitance 487pF(1-ON, 2-ON, 3-OFF)

input capacitance 587pF(1-ON, 2-ON, 3-ON)

DIP switches 4-8 are OFF, it represent value 47kohms.

 

Setting for MC cartridges

 

Input capacitance is irrelevant for low-output MC cartridges

input impedance10ohms(4-OFF, 5-OFF, 6-OFF, 7-OFF, 8-ON)

input impedance100ohms(4-OFF, 5-OFF, 6-OFF, 7-ON, 8-OFF)

input impedance470ohms(4-OFF, 5-OFF, 6-ON, 7-OFF, 8-OFF)

input impedance1kohms(4-OFF, 5-ON, 6-OFF, 7-OFF, 8-OFF)input impedance2kohms(4-ON, 5-OFF, 6-OFF, 7-OFF, 8-OFF)

 

Examples of typical settings

Ortofon 2M Red(MM) input capacitance 147pF, input impedance 47kohms3-ONrest-OFF

Ortofon X5-MC(High-Output MC) input capacitance 367pF, input impedance 47kohms1,3-ONrest-OFF

Ortofon Rondo Red(Low-Output MC) input impedance 10ohms, Input capacitance is irrelevant for low-output MC cartridges8-ONrest-OFF

 

Technical Specifications

Tracking Pressure

1.9 - 2.0 g

Input Load Impedance

100 Ω

Output Impedance

10 Ω

Nominal Output Voltage

350 μV

Channel Balance

≥ 20 μV

Separation

≥ -29 dB

Mass

6 g

For full technical specifications, download Apheta 3 Instruction Leaflet below.

Load settings for adjustable MC stages

Impedance
100 Ω
Capacitance
1000 pF
Gain Setting
High ('On' position for Rega phono stages)
 
https://www.rega.co.uk/download/ca-apheta-3-web-instructions.pdf
 
Cheers,
 
Andrew
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29 minutes ago, Pegasus said:

https://www.project-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Manual_Tube-Box-S2.pdf

 

Use these settings for your MC cartridge (in bold below) as a start.

input capacitance 587pF(1-ON, 2-ON, 3-ON)

input impedance100ohms(4-OFF, 5-OFF, 6-OFF, 7-ON, 8-OFF)

 

Settings

 

Use the dip switches at the bottom of the unit to set input capacitance and input impedance.

Please set both channels equally.To find out which type your cartridge is please consult the literature accompanying your cartridge.

The literature for cartridges should also specify the correct input impedance(low-output MC cartridges) and the correct input capacitance (high-output MC and MM cartridges), into which the cartridge is designed to work.

If in doubt please consult your dealer

.To alter settings the unit must be disconnected from the power supply

and the amplifier.

 

Setting for MM and high output MC cartridges

 

47pF is basic is the lowest fixed setting.

DIP switches 1, 2 and 3 add more capacitance

input capacitance 147pF(1-OFF, 2-OFF, 3-ON)

input capacitance 267pF(1-OFF, 2-ON, 3-OFF)

input capacitance 367pF(1-ON, 2-OFF, 3-ON)

input capacitance 487pF(1-ON, 2-ON, 3-OFF)

input capacitance 587pF(1-ON, 2-ON, 3-ON)

DIP switches 4-8 are OFF, it represent value 47kohms.

 

Setting for MC cartridges

 

Input capacitance is irrelevant for low-output MC cartridges

input impedance10ohms(4-OFF, 5-OFF, 6-OFF, 7-OFF, 8-ON)

input impedance100ohms(4-OFF, 5-OFF, 6-OFF, 7-ON, 8-OFF)

input impedance470ohms(4-OFF, 5-OFF, 6-ON, 7-OFF, 8-OFF)

input impedance1kohms(4-OFF, 5-ON, 6-OFF, 7-OFF, 8-OFF)input impedance2kohms(4-ON, 5-OFF, 6-OFF, 7-OFF, 8-OFF)

 

Examples of typical settings

Ortofon 2M Red(MM) input capacitance 147pF, input impedance 47kohms3-ONrest-OFF

Ortofon X5-MC(High-Output MC) input capacitance 367pF, input impedance 47kohms1,3-ONrest-OFF

Ortofon Rondo Red(Low-Output MC) input impedance 10ohms, Input capacitance is irrelevant for low-output MC cartridges8-ONrest-OFF

 

Technical Specifications

Tracking Pressure

1.9 - 2.0 g

Input Load Impedance

100 Ω

Output Impedance

10 Ω

Nominal Output Voltage

350 μV

Channel Balance

≥ 20 μV

Separation

≥ -29 dB

Mass

6 g

For full technical specifications, download Apheta 3 Instruction Leaflet below.

Load settings for adjustable MC stages

Impedance
100 Ω
Capacitance
1000 pF
Gain Setting
High ('On' position for Rega phono stages)
 
https://www.rega.co.uk/download/ca-apheta-3-web-instructions.pdf
 
Cheers,
 
Andrew

 

Brilliant, Andrew!  :thumb:

 

OK, @Marcusperth, from the info that Andrew has provided (although that cart info seems to be for the Apheta 3 - not 2?) and what I've been able to find for the Apheta 2:

a.  the cart output will require you to select 60 or 63dB gain

b.  and you will need to play with the dip-switch settings for load resistance.

  • the nominal loading specified is 100 ohms.
  • however, I suspect the coil impedance is 10 ohms - which IME means that 100 ohms will probably not sound as good as 470 ohms or 1000 ohms.

Remember to turn off the unit, when you adjust dip-switch settings!

 

Capacitance loading is not relevant for LOMC carts - so I would suggest you set it to the lowest value (dip-switches 1, 2 & 3 OFF).

 

Good luck - please don't forget to report back which loading you found to sound the best.  :)

 

Andy

 

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12 hours ago, Marcusperth said:

I am looking for advice on dip-switch settings for Project S2 tube box dip switches to make compatible with my Apheta 2 MC cartridge. Don’t have much understanding of the specifications, etc so as much information as possible would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks!

Just curious if you bought this new from a dealer? Reason I ask is if so, the dealer SHOULD have been helping you with this. Great cart BTW.

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56 minutes ago, Pegasus said:

 

Sure, Andrew - but the only thing I got out of that is .... "the Apheta sounds good at 100 ohms"!

 

None of them tried to listen to higher loadings (probably because their phono stages didn't allow this!).

 

As the OP's Project Tube Box S2 allows 470 and 1K - as well as the standard 100 ohms - he will be able to find out for himself.  :)

 

Andy

 

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All - many thanks for all input. 
i have bought this installed on a RP8, new in box but second hand. Trying to understand so I can better play. 
I note Pegasus’s recommended settings. This closely agrees with current settings I am running for Hana SL cartridge on current Thorens td160-2. (6 on vs 7On recommended for Apheta 2) I have hesitated to play for this cartridge due to lack of understanding.

Don’t get TT till the weekend so will set and report.

By changing the input impedence, what am I actually doing? 
 

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Rega also recommended 1000pf for the Apheta 2.

 

My advice is ditch the Apheta 2 and get another cartridge.

 

The input impedance (R) is basically tuning an LCR filter. If the R is too low high frequencies (HF) will be rolled off and if R is too large HF will have a huge peak.

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Well - thanks all. When the guy came to drop off the TT, wasn’t close to as advertised so didn’t finalise deal. Will have to wait. Very tempted by the P8 with Apheta 3. Not sure if budget will stretch. Alternates are clearaudio concept with satisfy black or on outside one of the acoustic solid - anyone with experience with these. I like having speed control. Rural WA 50hz always 50hzz

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