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As the title suggests, does anyone have any news on the release of these new units from Yamaha??  

I have been waiting for these units for a while, surely they must be close to news or release..

 

Thanks

 

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On 30/04/2021 at 2:09 PM, PhoenixIndy said:

As the title suggests, does anyone have any news on the release of these new units from Yamaha??  

I have been waiting for these units for a while, surely they must be close to news or release..

 

Thanks

 

 

The latest info is that the RX-A4, RX-A6A & RX-A8A will be released in late May. But that date might slight.

 

Perhaps post this question over on Whirlpool in the 2020 Yamaha AVRs with HDMI 2.1 thread here:

 

https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/35q8l8n3?p=41

 

 

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On 30/04/2021 at 2:09 PM, PhoenixIndy said:

As the title suggests, does anyone have any news on the release of these new units from Yamaha??  

I have been waiting for these units for a while, surely they must be close to news or release..

 

Thanks

 

PhoenixIndy posting this info in your thread in case you haven't seen it.

 

Yamaha Japan announcement of the new generation of AVENTAGE's high-end models "RX-A8A", "RX-A6A", and "RX-A4A"

 

https://www.yamaha.com/ja/news_release/2021/21051301/

 

Yamaha AV receiver "RX-A8A"


https://jp.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-a8a/index.html

 

Yamaha AV receiver "RX-A6A"


https://jp.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-a6a/index.html

 

Yamaha AV receiver "RX-A4A"


https://jp.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-a4a/index.html

 

 

Here's the translation:

 

New generation AVENTAGE's high-end models "RX-A8A", "RX-A6A", and "RX-A4A"

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yamaha.com%2Fja%2Fnews_release%2F2021%2F21051301%2F

 

RX-A8A: Available August 31

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjp.yamaha.com%2Fproducts%2Faudio_visual%2Fav_receivers_amps%2Frx-a8a%2Findex.html

 

RX-A6A: Available August 31

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjp.yamaha.com%2Fproducts%2Faudio_visual%2Fav_receivers_amps%2Frx-a6a%2Findex.html

 

RX-A4A: Available July 30

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjp.yamaha.com%2Fproducts%2Faudio_visual%2Fav_receivers_amps%2Frx-a4a%2Findex.html

 
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New Yamaha Aventage RX-A6A & RX-A8A are on the Australia Yamaha site. See:

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/index.html

 

Have a look at this Video (which is in French), show you inside the Yamaha Aventage RX-A6A & RX-A8A towards the end. RX-A6A at 10:54 & RX-A8A at 16:13. See:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCPJwnhJrGA

 

 

 

 

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Worth having listen/watch of this presentation which was live streamed about 4 hours ago. It is a long presentation at 1:36:22 with lots and lots of detailed info. Hosted by Gene from Audioholics and Phil Shea from Yamaha.

 

Really good info about the actual size and thickness of heatsink at 41:21 in the new models. Most of the heatsink is on the bottom. Those thin fins are only a very small portion of the heatsink structure. Prior to that Gene talks about the amount of power that the RX-A3080 was able to deliver over an extend period of time in a large room without getting hot.

 

At 1:13:20 Phil details what each board /section does within the RX-A8A including the three very large heat sinks on the HDMI Processing Chips at 1:16:00. All HDMI inputs support the full 40Gbps. No testing protocol currently available for HDMI 2.1 is discussed at 1:17:39. Which is why they are still testing the HDMI 2.1 Beta firmware. Very interesting.

 

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I think overall the Yamaha A8A is ok but probably retailing at a price point about $2000 more than it should, I considered it briefly in combination with  decent 2ch power amp but overall continued going the AV pre/pro separates path.

 

I guess you would buy the Yamaha for the extended warranty and full 8k switching. The Yamaha A6A with a 2ch power would be a better buy and performance over the A8A.

 

JDH 

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Just ordered the A6A yesterday. Hopefully arriving in September. I have had Yamaha Avantage from the start and have never been dissatisfied. I’m pairing mine with Yamaha MX5200 power amp for 7.2.4 Atmos. I’m upgrading from the RXA-3070 which is still awesome. I like the new design, although others don’t. 

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flagship models are nothing more than a p***ing competition, few buyers for the cost of manufacturing them.

 

better to put that savings into lower models, especially yamaha with the A4A.. 3 rd from top "A" model has a lousy 7 channel processing ability? thats a joke

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3 hours ago, HDobsession said:

Just ordered the A6A yesterday. Hopefully arriving in September. I have had Yamaha Avantage from the start and have never been dissatisfied. I’m pairing mine with Yamaha MX5200 power amp for 7.2.4 Atmos. I’m upgrading from the RXA-3070 which is still awesome. I like the new design, although others don’t. 

I like the styling of the current yams, but appreciate others wont :) 

 

its a good move in my opinion partnering with the MX5200 power amp with the A6A as the flagship external power amp is pretty well made compared to say spending more on the A8a that isnt built to same level..

 

yamaha just need to come through on a few things promised ... eg auro3D and hdmi 2.1 feature set...far too much of all this is STILL on the promise list... "available  by firmware update" when still isn't actually available and there is no firmware update :) but not all this is important to some :) 

 

I think it will be a great update on the 3070 you have :) 

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4 hours ago, hopefullguy said:

flagship models are nothing more than a p***ing competition, few buyers for the cost of manufacturing them.

 

better to put that savings into lower models, especially yamaha with the A4A.. 3 rd from top "A" model has a lousy 7 channel processing ability? thats a joke

I personally don't like spending more than 2k on an av reciever as they have a features shelf life with hdmi and enhancements over time. That said the A6A looks to have a feature set that could cover my needs for MANY years though. Noting that I think 8k is an absolute waste of time unless we all start getting Steve Austin's bionic eyes installed in a few years (showing my age there). 

 

I've always been glad of all the top version A series recievers as Yamaha used to do v series equivalent versions of them in time.

 

From experience the 11ch and 7.2.4 atmos etc (with your old av reciever as an external amp) inherited from these models is in no way just a boasting point and an absolutely spectacular setup for 2 grand. I really do hope yamaha continue with that A to V series features trickle down trend though I suspect it might be over for the 11 channels. 

 

This might actually be the first time I consider an A series (there is that 4yr warranty) but at $3699, I'll wait. 

 

To the original poster I'm sure it will be a spectacular setup and with that 11ch external amp, all the more amazing! 

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well trickle down wont happen.. the V series is now quite defined. they wont sell enough 11 channel to justify it at the "shop" prices suggested in Aust anyway.

 

so yamaha have only 1 model, the A6A, that does 9 channels with 11 channel processing.. thats 1 model. quite a poor choice really.

 

external amps are everywhere so maybe thats why they did it. many people would have bought the denon 3600 and added an external amp, taking sales from higher up models (best choice/combination for HT imo). fairly sure yamaha would have noticed that and want to direct sales to the A6A.

 

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Yep I fear the rxv3085 (which they didn't even really advertise) will probably be the last one. Although I have an xbox series x if I want to stay with a yamaha 11ch avr at a value price I might just have to stay at 60hz for a while via the sh market. 

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Some thoughts from Gene's pending review of the Yamaha RX-A6A:
 

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"This thing is a hot mess RN in how it handles digital fullscale and also the amp distortion. I'm biding my time publishing configuration set up tips for fellow owners until I can get some answers from Japan as to if they are working on fixes to what I've found. I'm not thrilled RN as you could imagine."

 

Gene is talking directly to the Yamaha Design Engineers in Japan about the issue before posting his review.

 

Let's see what their response is to Gene's findings.

 

Link to Gene's post for those comments:

 

 

https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/yamaha-aventage-2021-av-receivers-bulk-up-on-power-and-8k-features.122355/page-21#post-1509856

 

Also in case you missed Gene's video on the "Extra Bass" feature in Yamaha current & previous generations of AVR. See:

 

 

 

Do watch this video if you aren't familiar with the big caveat about its use.

 

Yamaha should really remove that option when speakers are set to small with a firmware update so people can't accidentally configure their Yamaha AVR that way.

 

This is from the RX-A3080/RX-A2080 Manual for our RX-A3080 regarding Extra Bass.


 

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Extra Bass (Extra Bass)
Enables/disables Extra Bass. When Extra Bass is enabled, you can enjoy enhanced bass regardless of the size of the front speakers and the presence or absence of the subwoofer.

No caveats about its use with small front speakers.

 

 

No caveats about its use with small front speakers in the RX-A6A Manual here either:

 

https://manual.yamaha.com/av/20/rxa6a/en-US/317408139.html


 

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Setting the use of Extra Bass

Uses Extra Bass to enhance bass sound. If this function is set to “On”, you can enjoy sufficient bass sounds, regardless of the size of the front speakers and the presence or absence of the subwoofer.

 

 

https://manual.yamaha.com/av/20/rxa6a/en-US/314142987.html


 

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Enjoying bass sound with small speakers (Extra Bass)

You can enjoy sufficient bass sound, regardless of the size of the front speakers and the presence or absence of a subwoofer.

Set “Extra Bass” in the “Option” menu.

 

 

To be honest, I've never used it as I've never seen the need on our system.

 

I did see this article, but still couldn't see the need in our system.

 

https://www.audioholics.com/home-theater-connection/utilizing-extra-bass

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