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That's why I suggest starting with essentially new LPs and from the same series. And doing it with several pairs will give you a good idea.

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Finally set mine up today and pretty impressed! 
For the money I cannot complain at all. Have it set up near the system and clean the LPs before play. 
can’t hear it while my system is playing either 

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I’ve read that HumminGuru are about to release an ultrasonic stylus cleaner and pressure gauge in one, might be interesting.

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It might have been available for a while, but i just noticed that HG now sell a cleaning agent, stating "A unique formula that enhances record cleaning efficacy. Designed for ultrasonic vinyl record cleaner"

 

Anyone tried?

 

 

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4 hours ago, 2Brix said:

It might have been available for a while, but i just noticed that HG now sell a cleaning agent, stating "A unique formula that enhances record cleaning efficacy. Designed for ultrasonic vinyl record cleaner"

 

Anyone tried?

 

 

 

Nope it's new, they only announced it a week ago.

The problem is that they do not list what goes into the solution. I'm guessing it's probably just surfactant.

 

I'll probably order 1 to try after my G-Sonic runs out. While I like the G-Sonic, I find that it's way too expensive here in Australia.

It's a US$29.95 product but it's marked up all the way to AUD$79.95 here, which is ridiculous.

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1 hour ago, lebowski said:

very close to buying a HumminGuru. Has anyone had issues with theirs or are they generally well sorted and reliable now?

 

I think I've used mine about 200 times, no problems at all.

On the Humminguru Facebook group, people have reported that even if they had problems Humminguru were pretty good at helping them solve the problems (like sending them replacement parts and instructions).

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Hello everybody from Europe. 

I have been using for the past 1,5 years a combo of a manual pre clean and a Chinese ultrasonic bath. I got pretty good results but as I am buying a lot of second hand LPs (I joined this hobby relatively late in the game), I spend a lot of time cleaning LPs - time I don't really have. 

 

So am looking now to get a machine that will enable me to spend less time doing this. As I have my own company, I can purchase the machine via my company. I will need in return to offer a cleaning service (not planning to do this to earn a living - just to justify the spend). I am now very hesitating between getting 2 hummingurus that I can use in parallel to do a clean and rinse cycle and getting a Degritter which after a lot of reading I understand to be the only real "one stop shop" and can deliver a higher quality cleaning. It does however cost almost 3 times the price of two HG machines......

 

Has anyone had the chance to really compare them? If the Degritter is really that much more quality, and offers ease of use, I may spend the money, but it is a lot of cash....

 

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OK.... question ...

 

Am looking into getting one of these. But am also looking into Project VC-E2.

 

They look to around the same price...

 

Thoughts?

 

Cheers

 

Andy

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The Project is a vacuum cleaner so totally different cleaning concept.

I have a Consonance vacuum cleaner and a HumminGuru.

As well as the much lower noise level the HG does just as good a  job of cleaning.

It is also much much easier to use.

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15 minutes ago, Jakeyb77_Redux said:


@billy170468 best to have both 😉

 

9 minutes ago, Hydrology said:

Agreed

 

Yes. That's why I have both as well.

 

If I have a particularly dirty record I'll use the vacuum first then maintain it with the HumminGuru.

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I have been adding a little L’Art du Son record cleaning fluid into my humming guru, seems to clean better.

Anyone else have experience with that?

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1 hour ago, denimhunter said:

I have been adding a little L’Art du Son record cleaning fluid into my humming guru, seems to clean better.

Anyone else have experience with that?

Yes. I have 2  reservoirs. I add a drop of Photo-Flo  to the first clean cycle then change reservoirs to distilled water only for a second cleaning and drying cycle.

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I also add a little ‘secret sauce’ to the distilled water with mine.

Definitely a better result than pure Distilled Water alone.

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On 04/10/2023 at 7:52 PM, al2813 said:

Hello everybody from Europe. 

I have been using for the past 1,5 years a combo of a manual pre clean and a Chinese ultrasonic bath. I got pretty good results but as I am buying a lot of second hand LPs (I joined this hobby relatively late in the game), I spend a lot of time cleaning LPs - time I don't really have. 

 

So am looking now to get a machine that will enable me to spend less time doing this. As I have my own company, I can purchase the machine via my company. I will need in return to offer a cleaning service (not planning to do this to earn a living - just to justify the spend). I am now very hesitating between getting 2 hummingurus that I can use in parallel to do a clean and rinse cycle and getting a Degritter which after a lot of reading I understand to be the only real "one stop shop" and can deliver a higher quality cleaning. It does however cost almost 3 times the price of two HG machines......

 

Has anyone had the chance to really compare them? If the Degritter is really that much more quality, and offers ease of use, I may spend the money, but it is a lot of cash....

 

 

If you're planning on offering a record cleaning service, you will be replacing Hummingurus like there's no tomorrow. They are NOT a commercial grade machine and any decent photos you see of the unit online will obviously reflect that it is designed for casual cleaning, not 8 hours a day, every day. I know because I was one of the first owners of one and while they clean well, they really are designed for collectors, not cleaning companies.

Secondly, if you are offering a record cleaning service you need to buy the most automated solutions you can find because let me tell you, it is a grind otherwise.

I use both a Clearaudio and KLAudio as part of my record cleaning system and they are about as automated as they get, but even then a proper, genuine clean through both machines is a 15-minute per record exercise. Adds up pretty quickly if you're doing a couple of dozen a day. And automated machines like mine below need zero clean up afterwards, nor do they waste fluid(s). Again, important to your bottom line.

 

So, for private record owners a Humminguru (or a Degritter) is fine, complimented by a wet RCM like the ProJect, Okki Nokki etc. A great two prong cleaning solution for approx AUD$1,700.

For professional cleaning, you need to be looking at a Degritter as a BARE minimum.

 

 

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I think there is very good alternative option to multiple machines, a good manual clean first with something like Melody Mate and a microfibre cloth, then into the HumminGuru, I’ve had good results with this method for the dirty used purchases.

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43 minutes ago, awayward said:

I think there is very good alternative option to multiple machines, a good manual clean first with something like Melody Mate and a microfibre cloth, then into the HumminGuru, I’ve had good results with this method for the dirty used purchases.

I clean (and flatten), on average, 70 records a week (sometimes that number might include some of my own, sometimes not).

On average, that equates to 17.5 hours per week where my machines are working. On top of a full time job that eats easily 60 hours of my week, time to chill as well as family time, I have ZERO desire or time to manually clean a record. To each his own, and there are plenty of people who will happily sit there and manually clean a record while they listen to music, watch some video, chat to the wife - good on them. I've been there, done that - I ain't ever going back!

 

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11 minutes ago, Hydrology said:

I clean (and flatten), on average, 70 records a week (sometimes that number might include some of my own, sometimes not).

On average, that equates to 17.5 hours per week where my machines are working. On top of a full time job that eats easily 60 hours of my week, time to chill as well as family time, I have ZERO desire or time to manually clean a record. To each his own, and there are plenty of people who will happily sit there and manually clean a record while they listen to music, watch some video, chat to the wife - good on them. I've been there, done that - I ain't ever going back!

 

My post wasn’t directed at you, it was just following your post, my thoughts were just about a cheaper alternative that works for me.

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1 hour ago, awayward said:

My post wasn’t directed at you, it was just following your post, my thoughts were just about a cheaper alternative that works for me.

Both could work.

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1 hour ago, awayward said:

My post wasn’t directed at you, it was just following your post, my thoughts were just about a cheaper alternative that works for me.

Fair point, but the logic remains - some people have large record collections and two machines (each of a type) mean less time cleaning and more time listening. For me, your approach would never work (anymore), but if it works for you, kudos sir.

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5 hours ago, Hydrology said:

 

If you're planning on offering a record cleaning service, you will be replacing Hummingurus like there's no tomorrow. They are NOT a commercial grade machine and any decent photos you see of the unit online will obviously reflect that it is designed for casual cleaning, not 8 hours a day, every day. I know because I was one of the first owners of one and while they clean well, they really are designed for collectors, not cleaning companies.

Secondly, if you are offering a record cleaning service you need to buy the most automated solutions you can find because let me tell you, it is a grind otherwise.

I use both a Clearaudio and KLAudio as part of my record cleaning system and they are about as automated as they get, but even then a proper, genuine clean through both machines is a 15-minute per record exercise. Adds up pretty quickly if you're doing a couple of dozen a day. And automated machines like mine below need zero clean up afterwards, nor do they waste fluid(s). Again, important to your bottom line.

 

So, for private record owners a Humminguru (or a Degritter) is fine, complimented by a wet RCM like the ProJect, Okki Nokki etc. A great two prong cleaning solution for approx AUD$1,700.

For professional cleaning, you need to be looking at a Degritter as a BARE minimum.

 

 

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Thanks for the feedback which I share 100% as I researched this to death and psoted questions everywhere to have informed opinions like yours. I do not intend to start a record cleaning company and not even a business. I do have a business that has a completely different activity, but when setting it up I did include my audio hobby in it as I do intend to explore offering services around the audiophile hobby as I get closer to retirement. I will offer record cleaning but do not intend to take any work that is even remotely close to 8 hours a day. This time is currently fully occupied by my main activity. So for now it's cleaning my own collection (and I mainly buy original pressings used) as well as very occasionally taking external work locally. 

So I was debating between the Degritter and the Humminguru, but finally got to the conclusion that I cannot justify the Degritter for now with the limited usage (I clean records mostly in the weekends and as external work will only be a small extra at this stage). I was thinking of 2 hummingurus, but after feedback I got from many people changed my opinion and will go for a workflow similar to yours. I Will get a vacuum RCM to accompany to ultrasonic machine. I hope the HG will survive a year or two and by that time even doing a handful of external LPs a week get the small extra change that will pile up and payback the machine. 

 

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I've held off buying an Ultrasonic cleaner, especially due to the cost of some of them..

 

I have my Okki Nokki, but I need to finally do something about getting all my Vinyl cleaned with an Ultrasonic cleaner and the time has come.

Dare say I might have to buy one of these Humminguru, and give it a go.

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